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Hello! If you don't mind me asking: Whoever wants to answer, what does 'endo' mean?/genq. I'm assuming it's something that, if searched up in Tumblr, won't yield 'nice' results (as in, it would come up with discourse blogs or something along the lines of that.) I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just curious/gen as I've seen the term floating about, but I'm not sure what it means.

Thanks if you answer, no problem at all if you don't/won't! :D/gen Have a nice day

Hi! Endo is short for endogenic system. An endogenic system is one that exists without DID. There's a lot of discourse as to whether you can be plural without being disordered (ie having DID, OSDD, UDD etc). Personally, we don't think we know enough about the topic to definitively say whether we think it's possible or not. Some people very strongly think it is possible and some very strongly think it isn't.

Discourse around the topic is harsh from both sides so I'd advise you to try and stay out of it and form your own opinion!

Endogenic systems sometimes use other terms to describe themselves like multigenic or mixed origin. Multigenic means they think they formed for multiple reasons and are multiple types of "genic". Mixed origin means they think they formed from both trauma and endogenic reasons. There are also BPDgenic and MDDgenic which are terms referring to the idea that the system formed because of another disorder.

Another term you might hear is traumagenic. A traumagenic system is one that formed from trauma. The vast majority of the time they have a dissociative disorder.

If we're going even deeper, there's something called tulpa. The term tulpa originates from an Asian background (Buddhist I think) and refers to purposefully creating an alternate identity. There is a lot of talk about whether it's cultural appropriation for non-asian people to use this term. We believe that this is a closed practice and people without Asian origin shouldn't be using the term tulpa but not everyone agrees.

There are also traumagenic systems who use endogenic to refer to a specific alter who they feel didn't split because of trauma.

On top of that (and I know this is getting long) there are endogenic systems who believe that they are disordered without having a dissociative disorder or a system that formed because of another disorder. Our personal opinion on this is that it's offensive and that endogenic systems are not disordered. However, we might be wrong and I encourage you to come to a conclusion on your own.

That's everything we can think of right now but feel free to ask more /gen! Take care of yourself because discourse can be rough.

:D

Avoiding syscourse is nearly impossible in system spaces, and everyone expects you to have an opinion on it.

I don't want to take a side. The majority of my system do.

It's not black and white. Mental health, mental wellness, and saying yay or nay to the possibility of non trauma sourced 'plural' experience looses the natural nuance in human experience.

There are things that haven't been researched about DID... It's completely possible (and likely) that the same goes for those who claim to be non trauma based systems. We know barely anything about the human brain.

I do have issues with some of the bullying, misinformation and other harmful behaviours that I've observed from both sides of the syscourse argument. It’s never okay to send death threats.

The fandom attitude, misinformation, immaturity and other rampant issues in both traumagenic and endogenic spaces need to be addressed before any kind of possible growth can happen.

Seperating the possibility of non trauma sourced plurality from trauma sourced is important, and both groups should have an ability to express themselves without being attacked.

I'm not neutral, nor pro endo, nor anti endo.. there's research that goes both ways (for/against) around endogenic experience... So I'm undecided. All I see are people who've had experiences who should be listened to.

~ Kyle 💜

i refuse to name the account publicly because im not stooping to their level but. Oh that's a slightly popular system account saying its perfectly fine to post endos to syscringe subreddits because they're not being "harassed..." i wanna fight back but. Not worth it :/ (i say this as someone who genuinely doesnt give a shit about syscourse but DOES give a shit about stopping syscringe subreddits)

:( That’s not okay.

No one deserves to be posted to syscringe pages. Endos included. Even when someone is being ridiculous. Posting without their knowledge is NOT okay. It's a much better idea to speak to the person one on one rather than potentially harming them.

I'm fully against sharing content off personal blogs and social media, e.g. screenshots, especially when usernames, and things that could identify the user are included.

There are some exceptions; like when people have tried to do their best to stop the person's behaviour, and it has continued to a point where it needs to be addressed further; for example when the Felix Cypher drama happened and his family was involved.

There's a fine line between analysis and straight up mocking — which is what syscringe and disorder cringe pages do.

Besides, a lot of content posted to those pages simply don't care that some of the people they're laughing at genuinely do have those disorders, and their symptom set is slightly unusual. It's extremely damaging to those who are posted.

That goes for all syscourse stances. I don't care if you're anti-endo, pro-endo or anything in between. There is a person behind almost every single account on the internet, and posting to syscringe is a form of cyberbullying and harassment.

Some people will always be shitty and cruel, however it's up to you [reader], to not contribute.