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i bought wilbur soot merch, i spent almost 70 quid on this abusive asshole. i feel so fucking guilty, like what do i do with this shit now? it's a good piece of clothing that i don't want to waste but the connotations. i feel the same about listening to his music, i supported him by listening to it (not anymore tho)
i really fucking hope shelby/shubble, niki/nihachu and any other victims are ok and healing. this is also a reminder to support shubble, via following, subscribing, whatever
Lmao
It was never a Wilbur soot Subreddit, It was never a Wilbur soot Subreddit, It was never a Wilbur soot Subreddit-
thought i'd put out a proper statement about this instead of just vaguely going quiet. first and foremost, i support shubble and am incredibly inspired and touched by her bravery to speak about such awful experiences she went through. no one should have to go through that, and she's so noble to share that with others so that other people can see the signs too
with most of the signs pointing to wilbur soot, i will be stepping away from posting content about wilbur (and lovejoy) for the foreseeable future. speculation or no speculation, i'm personally not comfortable supporting someone who might be an abuser. if it turns out i'm wrong, then alright, but i'd rather not take the chance of giving a platform to someone who might be an abuser
ultimately, shubble is so brave for coming forward about her experience, and i support her and wish her well
When all of the creators you used to admire turn out to be problematic so you turn to fictional characters again because at least their problematic actions don’t affect real people:
This very well might be a controversial take, but here goes.
I’m kinda okay with using Wilbur’s character in fics still? I absolutely do not condone any of the creators behavior or anything of the sort, but I sort of feel the same way about it as I do with Techno. Using the real person and the character are different to me. As long as you make it clear that this isn’t meant to show support for William Gold, I honestly don’t mind. Fanfiction provides no monetary benefit to the original creator of the character, so nothing we make goes to him or supporting his actions. I kinda feel like we’re reclaiming the character from the creator, you know? I totally understand why people don’t want to include him in their art or their fics anymore, but I won’t lie and say that I don’t feel bad for the characters being judged as their real life counterparts. Just my opinion.
Remember, despite all that, #SupportShelby!
Please listen and support shubble aka Shelby story and support and share what you can.
I am shocked by the news what happened.
And here is all I’m gonna say please again support support support Shelby. She deserves all the love and support from everyone and her story.
Stop giving attention to Wilbur.. this is not his story. This is Shelby. Again please support her and give her all the love that she needs
Again I will say this again and again.
shelby’s recent statement on twitter
FUCK WILBUR SOOT! He’s genuinely disgusting. Hearing the possibility of it possibly being him at first had already made me feel shit enough but coming to find out it’s true and genuine is worse. I feel genuinely disgusted with myself for ever liking and supporting him as a person. He was someone that brought me so much comfort, a person that I watched while having a bad day. This whole situation has made me anxious and nauseated that I can’t even eat. My love and support for him was grand and now all I can feel is disgust and guilt. I fall hand and hand with domestic abuse as I watched it happen to my mother at a young age and it’s something I’ve always hated my dad for. 3-4years I’ve spent watching him and supporting him and the whole time he was nothing but a piece of shit. before anyone comes to tell me this isn’t about me I’m well aware of that! This isn’t the only post I am gonna make about this damn topic, this is only the first and it about my feelings and how genuinely mortified and disgusted I am.
I want to also say I am so proud of shubble for being strong and speaking her truth. I feel so bad for her and what she went through with Wilbur cause she did not deserve that! I have not watched the fall stream but I’ve seen clips. As of right now I don’t think I can manage watching the fall stream cause even hearing clips made me nauseated. From I’ve heard and seen so far I am in disgust. But shubble is a wonderful person and she deserves the love and support. Also btw this isn’t DRAMA it’s fucking ABUSE! There’s a difference that I think a few of you can’t fucking see. Shubble was abused, she’s a victim but most importantly she’s a survivor. A person who deserves so much better, deserves all the love she can get in a time like this.
I also wanna say the people trying to force content creatures who were associated with him to make a statement is genuinely insane. It’s barely been a fucking day and not everyone is on Twitter 24/7. Not to mention that many of these so called friends of him that aren’t speaking on the topic are people who looked up to him! How many more people are gonna have to mentions how manipulative and abusive he is for you to get it in your head that it’s not something you can instantly talk about! Think of the fucking risks, tommy especially who was a minor when first meeting Wilbur. Grown to look up to Wilbur as a person and as a big brother, it’s not easy to process information like this. Fuck it took shubble 11months, with the help from friends and therapy! And you shitheads expect statements from people who were likely also manipulated by Wilbur. Use your damn common sense! This isn’t about who gonna make the next statement or this person should make a statement cause that’s all you guys want to focus on. I don’t disagree that eventually they should make a statement but trying to pressure them into it when they likely have a lot of shit to process and go through memories they had with Wilbur and realize “hey Ye he’s actually manipulative and a abuser.”. Again quite a few of these friends of his are people that were minors when meeting him which gave him the chance to easily manipulate and mold them whatever way he wants.
I just wanna say that only people allowed to accept Wilbur’s apology is shubble herself and as she stated she doesn’t accept his half assed shitty apology.
Biting people is normal. But biting someone so hard to the point of harming them on purpose, especially when they scream stop is not normal. I also bite people, but I also know when to stop. I know not to bite hard, I know to make sure they’re okay with it. Which I often bite (certain) friends and when I was in a relationship I bit said partner a many time (often time they’d bite me back) it’s called a love bite, I never bit them hard enough to hurt them or bruise them but If I did and they told me that they didn’t like it anymore I would have stopped. I also wanna say I pretty sure Wilbur is autistic and biting is a autistic trait! I say this not to defend him but to make my point clear. I know Wilbur himself did not verbally say he’s autistic, but he’s mentioned in stream that teachers at his school wanted to get him tested. (I think that’s mostly proof enough) my point is that he knew he was hurting her and that quite clear. To involve a safe word means you know your causing harm and it’s there to help prevent that. Yet he ignored said safe word and still bit her. I also wanna say he’s not your “cute soft little guy who didn’t know what he was doing” HES ALMOST 30! HES 27, a grown man who clearly knows what he did is fucked but clearly does not fucking care.
🧍🏻♀️me right now cause I wrote a long ass paragraph about my experience with my first ever boyfriend about how he literally sexually harassed me and now I don’t know what to do with it.
Not all man but most women. NOT ALL MEN BUT MOST WOMEN! I have never met a women who has never at least had one story to tell about how they been sexualized, sexually assaulted, sexually harassed or raped. Not all men but most women.
It’s important to remember not to idolize celebrities and content creators. We don’t know these people, don’t idolize them, don’t put them on a pedestal. We don’t know who these people are when they are not on camera and it’s so important to remember that. You don’t know who any of these people are truly and so don’t act like you do. Don’t defend their actions especially since these are mostly all grown men and women.
Definition of domestic abuse:
Domestic abuse is typically manifested as a pattern of abusive behavior toward an intimate partner in a dating or family relationship, where the abuser exerts power and control over the victim. Domestic abuse can be mental, physical, economic or sexual in nature.
Wilbur repeatably bit Shelby hard enough to cause bruises and pain, implanted a safe word to which he always ignored and weaponized. still bit her hard and would even purposely bite down harder if she screamed the safe word. Poke at the bruises for “fun” just to hurt her. Lock her inside his filthy home and make her clean up his filth.
William Patrick spencer gold domestically abused Shelby.
Definition of sexual assault:
The term sexual assault refers to sexual contact or behavior that occurs without explicit consent of the victim. Some forms of sexual assault include: Attempted rape. Fondling or unwanted sexual touching. Forcing a victim to perform sexual acts, such as oral sex or penetrating the perpetrator's body.
George put his hand under caiti’s shirt and touched/fondled her boobs in a room full of people while she was drunk and she didn’t explicitly consent.
George Davidson sexually assaulted caiti.
I just wanted to say thank you for the well spoken words on the Caiti situation, as a victim myself in almost the exact same way minus the alcohol, the rhetoric going around on this situation is so incredibly harmful.
There are so many obvious logical fallacies that will now just be used on other victims after this in the impact zone of the internet involved.
People saying that if it was actually bad, then someone in the room would have put a stop to it, when bystander effect, normalized bad practices, and alcohol exists.
People saying that since George didn’t do it purposefully without consent means it isn’t SA.
People saying that if it was serious she would have gotten the justice system involved when most cases aren’t going to be prosecutable in a court of law with minimal proof, and in general often damage the victims more without an outcome that helps anyone, and is often morally objectionable due to the inhumane aspects of prison and US punishment without good rehabilitation.
People saying that she’s either too much or too little traumatized for the experience to be valid, when the incident being morally wrong doesn’t require more or less of an impact.
People saying that people supporting Caiti are saying it’s exactly the same as Shelby’s situation and because it’s not, it’s less valid, when although abuse and SA can have different scales of harm caused, doesn’t mean that SA doesn’t deserve condemnation. Weaponizing someone’s lengthy painful experience to say that we shouldn’t treat another’s seriously is awful. Her story is exactly what Shelby meant to inspire sharing, because this stuff happens in all shapes and forms.
People saying that being emotional or not describing every part in excruciating detail when coming forward for the first time is manipulative and proves bad character or smth.
People saying that because a perpetrator is drunk both sides were equally as wrong and no one can be held accountable.
People saying that cuddling, flirting, being friendly before or after, freezing, not immediately leaving, not saying no, is consent.
People saying that this must be for clout or money because subs are turned on.
People saying that George’s response was a good apology when he said that because the act wasn’t extreme for him he didn’t think much of it, and focusing on many details not actually related to the incident or on other general hatred for dteam to imply bias against them, and generally implied that he was sorry that she felt uncomfortable rather than for what he did. And accepting the apology for Caiti.
People saying that to come forward (especially while not even naming the person) was only to ruin their life, and that that’s the only thing you can get out of coming forward publicly instead of support, peace of mind from not keeping something inside so long, and awareness so other people could come forward etc.
People saying that it was wrong to not handle this privately when that isn’t a viable option for a lot of cases particularly with powerful people involved, or when what you are seeking isn’t necessarily anything from who hurt you, like this is just some petty drama.
People saying that only acts considered more “extreme” and even more sexual should be taken seriously.
People saying because she angrily laughed in her recent response and was extremely explicit about what happened to her that she couldn’t have been shy or hesitant in her first response and is lying.
People actively victim blaming and overemphasizing underage drinking because “she isn’t a victim” when this exact rhetoric will and has been used in these cases time and again and shouldn’t be brought up when SA is even in the discussion, and will be used to guilt people who see it when they become a victim.
People saying perceived consent for other acts or the same act previously is consent for another.
People now believing in an incredibly dangerous definition of nonverbal consent because of dream’s statement, when nonverbal consent has been promoted for the protection of people who go nonverbal, it has to be as clear and exact as verbal consent, either as predetermined signals with a partner, nods, or moving someone’s hand somewhere, not just interpreting body language of a drunk stranger. The whole point of the consent movement is to have signs that aren’t misinterpretable to avoid hurting your partner or someone. If someone internally does not consent, but these signs prove consent, then what is the point? If I thought the signs I was using with someone I loved or a human I respect as I living being, didn’t actually express their wishes, I’d sure as hell try something else.
People saying that because Caiti expressed these signs that they’re calling nonverbal consent that she was lying to George.
People saying that because of that, this is a false allegation and is damaging victims, and some victims weaponizing their own experience to say that Caiti isn’t a victim and should shut up.
People saying that she just changed her mind, and anyone who isn’t reacting absolutely negatively in the moment who hasn’t consented is just having self guilt and is projecting.
People saying that anything other than enthusiastic consent is consent.
More real actual victims are going to fall into one of these categories of criticism and false logic, with it being much rarer that a ‘perfect’ victim comes along by these standards, and an intricate framework for ignoring them has been developed from this incident. If dteam hadn’t promoted and encouraged all of these fallacies from the start I think Caiti could have gotten a proper response to help her move on and not be so much more damaged, and many people wouldn’t have started to see dteam as so tainted by ugliness. In that way everything they’ve done since Caiti first came forward has done perhaps more long term damage than the act itself.
Because of their bias and falling for these manipulative tactics, this audience would just as easily invalidate me, and that hurts, even as I didn’t get as hurt as Caiti and I actually got validation from the people I told and had the confidence to know it was wrong immediately even though I froze and such, all these years later, this fact somehow hurts.
Sorry for the rant, I just needed this off my chest. Thanks again.
Ofcourse it means the world to mean hearing other peoples story’s and your rant is incredibly well worded. I show my support for victims because I know how hard it is. I was always silent for the longest time but now all I can feel is anger and I want people to understand that is more complex than it actually is and you can’t always go to the authorities. When I was 9 I had my 2nd experience this one being me realizing what sexual harassment actually is. I did go to court and I talked to authorities but in the end “I was lying.” I was 9 and they expected me to give full detail on what had happened when in reality all I wanted was to play with my Barbie’s. I didn’t understand what was actually happening cause I was a child. The justice system is incredibly flawed. Sad part is I still see him when holidays come around. It’s sickening. People constantly jumping to blame the victim makes me irritated. To them no matter what you’ll do you’re never gonna be considered a real victim. The idea of how our society reacts to these topics deeply upsets me. I speak for victims who are always told be silent cause they deserve to be heard. Saying she just wants clout is ridiculous when she has so much more to lose than George does. This why most of my post are on these serious topics because I’m not allowing myself to ever be silenced again. I’m also so sorry that you had to experience something similar, I wish every victim the best healing journey. It’s important to remember you’re not alone and there’s people here who believe you and think your story is valid. No matter how big or small your story is, no matter how big or small the impact it had on you is, your story will forever be valid.
I’ve never really went to detail on my experiences with sexual abuse and I don’t necessarily plan on it anytime soon. All in all I am a victim of it and to this day it really affects me. I went unknown to the abuse I endured as a kid cause I was a naive child who grew up around it so to me at the time “it was normal”. It wasn’t till I made friends that I realized it was actually incredibly wrong. When you’re a child growing up around sexual abuse and that being your only source of knowledge you began to think that’s “normal”. It’s not until you get an outside perspective till you realize that it actually really isn’t normal. On top of the sexual abuse I endured growing up I had other situations with other people where I was sexually harassed. It affects me so much that any grown man who show me affection makes me genuinely scared that they’ll end up well… you know. Mixed with that fear is anger, anger that all of my offenders are able to walk freely without consequences. Angry that I’m not the only one but dozen upon dozen of people have the similar experiences. Angry that I was forced into silence for so long, angry that so many others are forced to be silent. I am no longer gonna be silent, I refuse to stay quiet. I speak for myself and the people who are forced into silence to this day.
For anyone in any mcyt fandom who follows me: if you support Wilbur Soot you need to get the fuck off my page. This is not a safe space for any of you who excuse his abusive actions. You can not separate the art from the artist in this, find a different fucking song
That being said go support Shubble. It takes so much bravery to call out an abuser and all my love goes out to her. She's an amazing content creator and she deserves a lot of love and recognition right now. I highly recommend her content