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Warning! Miraculous Spoilers! I think!

Wait wait wait so if Adrien is an amok

Does that mean Shady M or Hawky Dude or Gabey Boi or whatever you call him could just be like "Adrien give your miraculous" and he'd have to listen?

Thats OP, I think we need to nuke him.

I can't speak on this confidently, as we haven't seen the episode "Gabriel" yet, but I think Adrien's growing resentment towards Ladybug is meant to parallel Gabriel's pipeline into becoming Hawkmoth.

I have also come to the conclusion that Adrien's whole character arc is revolved around the duality of the power of destruction, which I get is obvious, but hear me out. While destruction can cause chaos and harm to others, it also plays a necessary part in tearing down oppressive forces.

Let's talk about this scene.

What this scene has communicated to us is, despite the two of them having seemingly opposite personalities, Adrien is indeed Gabriel's son. What I mean by this is that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree; both have a tendency to get caught up on their projected fantasies involving the people they love.

The position Gabriel is in right now, being Hawkmoth and all, is a direct result of him being unable to process his grief. Much like Adrien and his fantasy of Ladybug, Gabriel clings onto the fantasy of a "better world" with Emilie to cope with his grief and reconcile his guilt. Consequently, Gabriel has now become Paris' biggest threat and he's dealing out collateral damage onto his family (i.e. Adrien and Nathalie).

Adrien is at risk of falling down the same path; Adrien's grief has led to him becoming emotionally dependent on his romantic fantasy involving Ladybug. Even after everything he went through in this episode, this poor boy is still clinging to this damn fantasy for dear life.

Right now, even after everything that happened in Glaciator 2.0, Adrien is still stuck on this cycle of hoping Ladybug will one day fall for him, Ladybug rejecting him and inevitably breaking his heart, him getting depressed and lashing out because of it, him and ladybug reconciling, and then Adrien slipping back into the fantasy again to rinse and repeat.

In order for Adrien to truly develop as a character, he needs to break the cycle. He needs to break the cycle of damage his father is doing to the environment (as demonstrated in Mega Leech), he needs to break the cycle of complacency in his life, and he needs to break the cycle of enabling his father's actions. In order to do that, he needs to stand up to his father and get him to break the same cycle within himself.

If Adrien can't break the cycle, he's going to succumb to it and end up just like his father... or worse.

I am one of them. I am a staunch sentimonster Adrien denier and I absolutely HATE the possibility of Adrien being sentimonster, and now I am scared for Felix too!

There is about only one specific theory that makes some sense where I'd probably be OK with Adrien being a sentimonster but even that has it problems when looked further into.

I say this because we might be getting something related to senitmonsters based on some of the clues others have pointed out but I feel its going to foreshadow a twist of a twist, like leading the audience and/or the character astray/one direction/to a red herring only for something to then be revealed as something else, like maybe a character thinking he is a sentimonster only to be revealed something else sentimonster etc.

Or maybe its going to be something like that not related to sentimonsters.

Like maybe foreshadowing/hinting at something else in the future that the audience may not understand yet and so they start developing these theories.

It is like one part of Felix and Gabriel's dialogue in "Gabriel Agreste," in front of the Emilie portrait. It suggests that Felix may be a sentimonster of some sort and that Gabriel is willing to end his existence if he doesn't comply with Gabriel, but simultaneously (maybe moreso) it suggests the same but without Gabriel "confirming" himself to be Shadow Moth [- some people thought it was suggesting this but I felt like it wasn't, but it could be taken as such] and implying Felix thinks he is a sentimonster. It would just be saying that Gabe is already powerful enough and doesn't have to be Shadow Moth in order to destroy Felix's life if he doesn't give him the twin ring (his wedding ring) back.

Its such well written, dubious and scary piece of dialogue!

And Gabriel got out of the whole ordeal thinking he got Felix of his case about Shadow Moth while Felix was one step ahead of him.

That piece of dialogue feels like it is written in way to heavily suggest that Felix is a sentimonster but not outright confirm it.

While I hate the theory of Felix being a sentimonster along with the senti Adrien, he has some convincing evidence for this compared to the senti Adrien theory.

I took a break from writing this post at the end of paragraph and came back to it later and now I am not quite in the same headspace as I was when I was when first writing this but this is pretty much everything what I wanted to say.

So to reiterate: I am a very firm denier of the senti Adrien theory as well as the senti Felix theory and I'd hate for both or either to happen, but for better or for worse I fear something is going to happen.

So, how many of you are out there that still simply deny the Sentimonster theory with all your being?

Did Gabriel actually cry?

This was his worst emotional breakdown, holy shit. I want more of him crying over his wife because it actually shows he cares about someone?? Makes him more vulnerable? This man who usually doesn’t even show affection towards his own son.

(Can we also take note that both him and Adrien smash things when they’re mad? That’s so scary.)

Nathalie: Well done, Sir! You didn’t akumatize anything in 2 weeks, 6 hours, 39 minutes and 41 seconds! Here you go.

Gabriel: Is this a Sticker?

Nathalie: Not just any sticker, it has ‘Me-wow’ on it, as a Cat Noir pun, you know, because you haven’t tried to get his Miraculous in 2 weeks, 6 hours 40 minutes and 2 seconds!

Gabriel: I am not in a nursery.

Nathalie: In case you don’t want it, I can always just give it to Adrien, he is ecstatic every time I give him one.

Adrien: *standing in the door way with excitement all over his face* A sticker? For me? With a pun? A cat pun? A-are you serious Nathalie?

Nathalie: *gestures to Adrien with a ‘told you so’ look*

Gabriel: No! Back off! It’s mine! I earned this!

Adrien: *tears are coming* Bu-but... I...

Nathalie: Here Adrien, for you. Because you’re paw-sitively claw-some.

Adrien: Oh, thank you Nathalie! You’re the greatest person alive! Here, I have something for you too, I drew a picture of us as sticker-superheroes!

So, in Kwami Buster, Master Fu warns Marinette that wearing too many Miraculous could make her lose her mind. And at the end, he says that no Miraculous holder has ever been mentally and physically strong enough to wear so many. So, with that in mind, I'm ready to see good Ole Gabe absolutely wreck himself in season 5

In S4:Ep12 of MLB I’m just laughing my head off at shadow moth getting annoyed because all strong emotions are becoming positive.

Also why is purple tigress’ outfit so cute? Like the whole outfit is stunning

lowkey embarrassing that gabriel can’t stick with a supervillain name. just pick a bug and move on like ???

Shadow moth redesign. Shadow moth has one of the most disappointing designs in the whole series to me. He’s a villain, fashion designer, and is combining two of the flashiest creatures in the theme, a peacock and butterfly, yet his design barely changes at all. Ladybug got a lovely and different design when she got the bee miraculous and that was for less than a few minutes in a single episode. Shadow moth is supposed to be hawkmoths upgrade to make him more dangerous and powerful but that is not represented in his new look.

First off I gave him claws because peacocks have claws and they are more villainous than normal gloves. I lengthened his coat for more drama and gave it a butterfly shape with peacock designs. His shoes look like peacock feet and I gave him a dramatic peacock collar. I also added actual peacock colors since they fit naturally into the color scheme already.

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All three of my hawk moth redesigns side by side.