Selfcest - Tumblr Posts
“Inside a cramped, narrow hole, the two of us show each other our dreams
We can't be in that world; neither can we be in this world
Dear Gxd-the gxd of children, we are covered in scratches, in the sandbox where you amused yourself.”
Hole-dwelling; Kikuo.
Since the anniversary of an important personal date is coming, I figured I’d show you a drawing I did a year ago. You don’t have a lot of context for this drawing, the characters or the symbolism behind, other than an animation or two on my YouTube channel, but maybe I’ll feed you guys little pieces of it over time.
Originally published on the 13th of November of 2022, the original caption went like this:
“The legacy you left me was a curse of the autumns that ravishes any beauty around it.”
Content: A compilation of desperate ramblings, tweaked (as best as I could) for consumption: Part 2
Content Warnings: Autosexuality (I think it's called), degradation, honorifics, spanking, choking, biting.
Context: The last of my pre-written scenarios to cope with my hypersexuality.
If Satyric Nymph had a dick, it would jack off in front of a mirror so it could see all the faces it would make and watch itself cum.
Imagine being so self-obsessed that you use your own reflection as material to do something as shameless as getting off to watching yourself get off.
Ix would record it too. So ix could play it back and listen to all the slutty sounds ix made. Needy and desperate as ix fucked ixs hand and shot white ropes onto the mirror.
Satyric Nymph couldn't stop squirming. Trying not to touch itself at the thought.
Satyric Nymph wanted to squeeze ixs throbbing cock into ixs clone's tight pussy. Feel its hole tighten around ix as it squirmed. Ix wanted to pound ixs clone stupid. Ixs clone begging for mercy.
Satyric Nymph wanted to choke ixself with ixs dick. The clone sucking the soul out of ix. It wanted to watch ixs eyes roll back into ixs head. Ix wanted to make a mess.
"Fuck daddy. Master. Master. Sir." Satyric Nymph liked the sound of that. Ixs clone would call ixself sir while ix fucked itself stupid.
Fuck. It felt all weird and fuzzy inside. Ix wanted to pull ixs hand back and send ixs palm into its ass cheek. Spanking isn't enough. Ix wanted ixs dental imprint in that thing.
first of all, CONGRATULATIONS SUE for all the effort this surely took !!
aaaand i can say that this fandom always surprises me in the best way....... i mean just seeing how steeped in history it is AND the LORE is that i just can't think and think about it all day-
THE PART OF THE BLOG where you mention that they even part of the people who already loved the onceler just by watching the trailers like WHAT??!! i really DIDN'T IMAGINE THAT i would be lying if i didn't say that i'd LOVED seeing all this with my own eyes at the time JAJAKAJJAA
those who have been part of those people.....do carry history on their shoulders
the oncest as you say, is the icon of the onceler fandom, whether others like it or not, but it is and it's wonderful how all this marked a generation JAJA and it continues to do so, i mean.....it's from the first things you hear about the fandom (and i think they usually do it in a "bad" way like.....i almost didn't join the tumblr fandom because of some videos talking about how "weird" the fandom is (was)just for that )
but hey!!! to be honest im not the best person to talk about it i wasn't there but WOOOOW all this i think will continue to be talked about for a looooooooiong time i hope
Origins of the Oncest ship: the history
Travelling in The Once-ler's fandom history | by suemooon
Welcome Oncelings!
to one of my most serious researchers I have ever done before, now, here’s a little explanation:
I wanted to make a fandom analysis using old posts, the way back machine, and other stuff to try to compare the once-ler fandom in its golden age and now, trying to suppose how it was and trying to see what happened there, but it would be later. Because I got a really interesting capture that I got while I was checking the Oncest tag in the wayback machine, and I got this:
IT QUICKLY GOT MY ATTENTION
Someone saying that they were the first ones to show the Oncest ship term.
I wanted to see if it was real and not a joke or something like that, so I copied the url of the tumblr and desired that the blog is still up, and I got it!!!
I explored their tumblr for a little while, and I noticed another thing, there’s a bunch of photos of the once-ler BEFORE the movie of the Lorax came out, this of course means that ye, there was some people who found the once-ler attractive and begun to share his pictures in tumblr (without any tag, if it wasn’t the help of this blog and some other ones, I probably couldn’t got them).
This makes a lot more sense than saying that the once-ler fandom was born after the came out of the movie I can say.
Those pictures belongs to all the Lorax trailers, in which ONLY appears the gray once-ler, not greedler. So we can say that the people who find him attractive in the beginning, the greedler was like a kind of “plot twist”
But the topic of the whole fandom will be for my another analysis, now let’s try to focus on Oncest.
2. Possible date of apparition
In my research, it seems that Oncest was born between 19th March, 2012, but where did I took this supposition?
Checking the dates between their first Oncest mentions (and also checking other old inactive once-ler’s blogs), there’s some important dates to make a highlight.
link to post: https://theambernerd.tumblr.com/post/19771248254/thank-you-all-you-lovely-people-for-following-me
In this screenshot, someone responds that this pairing has a name, this is from March 22, 2012, so the ship already existed and had a name too, so let’s check out the other blogs and their archives.
temporarilycheating
squidmama
Suddenly we see Oncest fanart.
The dates are between 19th and later, is this the origin of the ship?
Of course this is just a supposition, I had to see it at that time to prove it, but it’s not the case. All I can do is make suppositions.
You can take it as something true or fake, that’s your opinion.
3. Who was the original person who brought up with the Oncest idea?
This one was one of the most complicated things that you can try to research, we are talking about something that is 11 years old, so some pretty amount of information got lost with the time.
In words of temporarilycheating.
IT’S CALLED ONCEST BECAUSE I SAID SO! Lol but really…actually, I’m kinda the one who came up with the name in the first place… The pairing existed, but I think it was originally called twincest or something… But anyhow, in month one of the fandom, back when Sirsteeve made some of the first oncest fanart the fandom went CRAZY over the idea…and so did i. So I was sitting in my living room having a feels moment over this new OTP…but since the fandom didn’t really have a name for it, it made me think… It came to my mind that the fandom was somewhat dividing the once-ler into two seperate people of the same relation-oncie and greed-ler. To me, it sounded like incest. So I played around with that idea a bit in my head. And after saying incest repeatedly in my head I noticed the ‘ce’ in the word. I came to the conclusion to 'once’ in addition to the 'est’. thus 'oncest’. I had a fangasm and posted my idea to tumblr ASAP. Apparantly, it caught on cuz it’s still called oncest today and is widely known C: That has to be one of my greatest achievements in this fandom.
link to post: https://temporarilycheating.tumblr.com/post/25857778616/why-is-it-called-oncest
There's a small mention to someone named "Sirsteeve" who explains that were one of the firsts ones to draw Oncest.
I searched and their oldest Oncest post I found is this one.
Date: March 19th, 2012 by: sirsteeve ( hour - 5:22 PM )
So we have in our eyes one of the first Oncest post ever.
Is that the original Oncest post? I don’t know, it only says that is ONE of the first persons in the fandom who brought up the idea. Is it made by one person or a group of people? I don’t know.
Other very first posts about Oncest:
Date: March 19th, 2012 by: cartoonjunkie ( hour - 10:39 PM, 5 hours later after sirsteeve )
Date: March 20th, 2012 by: owlapin
Date: March 21st, 2012 by: rutella
4. Who gave the name of "Oncest"?
GUYS!!!! I KNOW WHAT TO CALL THE PAIRING!!!!! Y'know, once-ler/green suit once-ler!???? IT SHOULD BE CALLED ONCEST!!!! GET IT!? Its like incest, but with himself! :D WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK!? If you like the idea, reblog this to spread the word! :D
Date: March 20th, 2012
It seems it’s true, temporarilycheating was the one who created the Oncest term, we should give her more recognition for it!
link to post: https://www.tumblr.com/temporarilycheating/19650360910/guys
Conclusion
Second part? who knows. But the only thing I can say is… this one was one of my most complicated things to find, but now I got some important information. I'm here for you to share my knowledge!
I must say, I’m very proud of me for this, you guys have no idea how excited I got when I found these photos and data, maybe is not too much but I think they’re really important yet; this information forms part of our fandom history, and I think we should keep that information up and don’t lose it.
As a reminder too, as I already said once…
Oncest is like an icon for our dear Once-ler Fandom, whether we like it or not.
We can’t deny its existence, we can’t blame it, we can’t try to delete it, it always will exist as always the fandom will exist and some people like it.
And… My opinion about Oncest?
Well, I don’t hate it, I don’t love it thou, but I can like some posts about it, I can appreciate art from this ship, and it’s idea too.
Any reblog, like, and comment it's appreciated!
Super quick thing I’ve been wanting to draw since I saw the movie. I feel like something’s missing, but I hate dwelling on the details for too long so I’ll let it beeeee
i saw this and felt the young prickcest energy
I'm normal about them I'm normal about them I'm normal about them I'm nor
FUCKKK I LOVE THEM SO MUCH, I DON'T KNOW WHY. I WISH BETTER HALF WAS NOT A DEAD FANDOM :( LIKE I CANNOT EVEN PLAY THE GAME???
Love Yourself First by raethye
Rating: Explicit
Pairing: Seokjin x Taehyung
Length: 4.9K, complete
Tags: Kim Seokjin | Jin/Kim Taehyung | V, Alternate Universe - Fantasy, Magic, Post-Divorce, Not Between the Mains, Self-Discovery, sexual healing, Explicit Sexual Content, Orgy, Sort Of, Self-cest, Trust, Praise Kink, it's small but it's there, Exhibitionism, but not really, the possibility exists, Voyeurism, front row tickets to the sex show, Smut, Fluff, Cruise Ships, Vacation, Hopeful Ending, How Taehyung Got His Groove Back, Light Bondage, Light Dom/sub, Kim Seokjin | Jin Calls Kim Taehyung | V Pet Names
While normal passengers are offboard for a weekend excursion, Taehyung sits alone at a little bar not even on the ship map. He knows the bartender, Seokjin—Call me, Jin. I taste especially good with a Long Island—get it?—who treats Taehyung as someone worthy of soft smiles and bad jokes and time, so at least he’s semi-acquainted with someone, and not just a loser divorcee drowning his sorrows in another glass of wine.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/38552622
After seeing a post they--> @ghostedbiologist made about the Oncler. It made me think of a list of peoole who were so damn hot they got shipped with themselves.
So far I have: Oncler, Sans, Simon Petrikov, Rayman and Sonic (technically)
@culturalsillystine
"Does it get better?" S6 Sam x S2 Sam time travel romance bc really Sam should learn one or two things about self love!
super late to the party here, but honestly all i wanted out of the loki series was at least neutral rep for genderfluidity/bisexualtiy for loki, maybe have sigyn make an appearance, and learn more about loki's time with thanos/in the void. the only thing on this list i got was loki's sex being "fluid", and the mention of bisexuality that is undermined in the same episode its introduced by having loki fall in love with sylvie
this is obviously not to say that opposite sex relationships can't happen, but i feel as if it continues the false belief from biphobic people that bisexuals just "havent found the right person yet," usually in relation to the opposite gender rather than a same-sex pairing. once i knew sigyn wasnt gonna be introduced and his bi orientation was confirmed, i was really looking forward to him having an mlm pairing, but instead, he got pushed with sylvie
I Intentionally Start Shit in the Loki Tag
If you complain about Sylvie being "harmful queer rep" BUT want "Lady Loki" in the MCU, which was Loki possessing Sif's body just to torment Sif, I need you to sit down and shut up. a. Genderfluid people don't go by "Lady " when they're femme or women. b. If you don't see the transphobic dogwhistles in the comics possession subplot, I don't know what to tell you... But let's say that hag that wrote those crappy books would love it. c. If you weren't aware about this, maybe you should read the wiki at least before giving uninformed opinions.
I definitely agree that they should not have led people on with the promise of genderfluid rep during the promotion of the series. But get mad at Disney/Marvel for that. Not at the writers or Sophia Di Martino that had to cave in to Feige's demands. That's literally what they have to do.
I really don't give a damn about the "autogynephilia" allegations, which again, is ALSO PRESENT IN CIS WOMEN. Like why the fuck should I care about someone finding themselves hot? There's fascists out there. AGP even if it was a trans-specific thing harms no one. The only harm said to come from it is DUE TO FASCISM because it plays into RESPECTABILITY POLITICS.
If you use AI to create a "proper" Lady Loki or love interest for Loki, you can't complain about the blatant product placement in S2. I am not a fan of product placement either and won't defend it, but those are the rules. Show some integrity. And before you ask, I have not given a cent to Disney since they pissed me off with attempts to trademark Dia de los Muertos for Coco.
If you complain about how being a "Loki" is not a role (unlike Spiderman) and how it should have been all 100% Tom Hiddleston, you don't get to call it selfcest as a gotcha, because you're already differentiating between the variants with different DNA. Like do y'all hate selfcest or not? Make up your mind. The series treats a Loki as an archetype of sorts, so it can be a role. Also, having the same name does not make you related because we don't know what Sylvie's parents are? And we don't even know if Sylvie is also a Jotun, a prop claims she isn't.
If you say you want Sylvie dead but claim to not be misogynistic, because you'd love if a specific love interest from the comics or mythology replaced her, STFU. You only like those because you can project whatever the fuck you want onto them.
If you claim Sylvie is a misogynistic depiction of women but salivate over characters written by cishet white men in the 1960s-1980s that made wanting to fuck Thor or being in a monogamous marriage with Loki their entire personality (there's so MANY OF THESE), STFU. Do you hear yourself? And no, it's not misogynistic of me, a woman, to criticize offensive depictions of women by cishet white men. They're not real.
Our MCU!Loki is not the young adult Ikol reincarnation currently. Of course 20-something Verity is not going to be there! The Loki show should be praise for having multiple female cast members around the same age as the protagonist and pragmatic clothing choices that allowed SdM to nurse her baby.
Selfcest isn't real and I cry tears of boredom whenever someone clutches their pearls over it.
The comics aren't perfect. As much as I loved the recent Dan Watters run (and German Peralta's art), the comics art has some very questionable tendencies, especially regarding Loki's nose when she's femme. It's associated with how some kinds of facial features are considered masculine or feminine (and racialized). Noses have no gender, ffs! Women with nose bumps exist! For some reason Loki always has a tiny button nose when she's a woman or femme. There's also the BLATANT physiognomy that has ALWAYS PLAGUED Thor comics since their inception, and Loki's facial features as they've become more "grey" and less evil is an interesting study. Peralta's far from being the only artist with this problem, and is far from being the most problematic. For comparison from Loki (2023) run:
Loki from ye olden days:
Here's a link to a comment with a translation, thanks for responding by the way! https://www.reddit.com/r/swordartonline/comments/4umrxt/random_mtth_kiriko_thats_kind_ofhot/d5r6tgs/
Hey have you seen this comic? I feel like you would like it. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fm5c1mxjtaibx.jpg
I had not previously seen the Kirito transgender self-cest comic, no.
I just spent like 5 minutes attempting to read it with google translate and i dont think i got many more answers.
Regardless, based on this comic, we know for a fact that the GGO Kirito is transfem since it is a natural thing for all women to immediately go out of their way to fluster Kirito for no reason.
Czech and Polish Miku being roommates 🤭
Czech Miku design by @es_pikopikola