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A little comparison between Arkos and Huntlow
Despite the fact that Arkos is a romantic relationship and Huntlow can end in various ways (as a romantic couple, platonic or just as besties) I like both relationships a lot and both have something in common: both relationships are based on knowing each other not because of their background, but because they know each other for who they really are and in both relationships they respect the choice and autonomy of both members of both relationships.
In both relationships they are made up of the prodigies:
and the underrateds:
Both Hunter and Pyrrha share the theme of their fight against destiny, (even though they both want agency and to be seen as their own person for different reasons the desire remains the same).
On the other hand, Jaune and Willow are underestimated and they're teased for it to the point that they both doubt their own potential (Jaune for his lack of semblance and Willow for not being good with abomination magic).
Jaune and Willow have no idea about Hunter and Pyrrha's background (Hunter is the Golden Guard and Pyrrha is a recognized huntress prodigy) so they treat Hunter and Pyrrha like normal people and they value that so much that they treat Jaune and Willow in return with respect and recognize their potential (Pyrrha teachs Jaune about aura, she helps him unlock it as well as recognize his masive aura, courage and leadership potential and Hunter sees Willow as a powerful and brave witch and an excellent leader).
So much so that when they discover how Jaune and Willow see themselves (Jaune sees himself as a fraud for cheating to get into Beacon and Willow calling herself a half-witch), Hunter and Pyrrha is shocked by this but still their visions of Jaune and Willow don't change and they become more closer to them.
Hunter and Pyrrha are able to be seen and recognized as their own person outside of their roles and Jaune and Willow are valued as self-sufficient people with great potential that can unlock.
I have always found it curious that Ruby and Yang have different surnames despite being daughters of the same father Tai (children always use the father's surname first) and this may be because Ruby uses Summer's surname in her eagerness of being equal to her because she believes that that is what everyone expects of her as well as being Ruby's attempt to keep her mother alive in some way or at least her memory alive.
A little comparison between Arkos and Huntlow
Despite the fact that Arkos is a romantic relationship and Huntlow can end in various ways (as a romantic couple, platonic or just as besties) I like both relationships a lot and both have something in common: both relationships are based on knowing each other not because of their background, but because they know each other for who they really are and in both relationships they respect the choice and autonomy of both members of both relationships.
In both relationships they are made up of the prodigies:
and the underrateds:
Both Hunter and Pyrrha share the theme of their fight against destiny, (even though they both want agency and to be seen as their own person for different reasons the desire remains the same).
On the other hand, Jaune and Willow are underestimated and they're teased for it to the point that they both doubt their own potential (Jaune for his lack of semblance and Willow for not being good with abomination magic).
Jaune and Willow have no idea about Hunter and Pyrrha's background (Hunter is the Golden Guard and Pyrrha is a recognized huntress prodigy) so they treat Hunter and Pyrrha like normal people and they value that so much that they treat Jaune and Willow in return with respect and recognize their potential (Pyrrha teachs Jaune about aura, she helps him unlock it as well as recognize his masive aura, courage and leadership potential and Hunter sees Willow as a powerful and brave witch and an excellent leader).
So much so that when they discover how Jaune and Willow see themselves (Jaune sees himself as a fraud for cheating to get into Beacon and Willow calling herself a half-witch), Hunter and Pyrrha is shocked by this but still their visions of Jaune and Willow don't change and they become more closer to them.
Hunter and Pyrrha are able to be seen and recognized as their own person outside of their roles and Jaune and Willow are valued as self-sufficient people with great potential that can unlock.
I have always found it curious that Ruby and Yang have different surnames despite being daughters of the same father Tai (children always use the father's surname first) and this may be because Ruby uses Summer's surname in her eagerness of being equal to her because she believes that that is what everyone expects of her as well as being Ruby's attempt to keep her mother alive in some way or at least her memory alive.
Eren and Cinder: Slaves of Freedom
Many people hate Eren and Cinder to the point that they consider them bad characters and it's one thing to dislike a character and another to be badly written and to be fair, Eren and Cinder aren't bad characters. You might dislike them, very much actually, but one thing doesn't take away the other, they're both well written and I'm writing this because I don't want people to think they're bad characters just because they don't like them.
They both share a strong desire for freedom and in this post I'm going to explore their desire for freedom, why they became obsessed with being free as well as other things they share:
Eren and Cinder suffered since they were children due to situations that were beyond their control. Eren witnessed the destruction of his home and the death of his mother Carla as well as being turned into a titan by his father Grisha and later on he would suffer a series of betrayals and find out that everything bad that happened to him was the product of a war that he did not even know existed and Cinder was mistreated on the farm where she was sheltered until Madame adopted her but this mistreatment went from bad to worse, then Rhodes gives her hope of being free as a huntress but she could not bear the abuse and she kills her abusers and then fights Rhodes and kills him.
Both situations are quite different but the effect it caused on both is practically the same: they hate themselves for their impotence and want to be free because they want to have control of their lives, give meaning to all pain they went through and believe that power and violence is the only thing that can give them what they want. Eren and Cinder are victims of a system bigger than them that failed them and they choose to destroy it but at the cost of being left alone in a toxic and self-destructive cycle.
Basically, this is how they want to be seen by others (powerful and untouchable)
because this is what they really are (pathetic and unsure of themselves)
and they know it better than anyone and they hate themselves for it. They're irrational, immature, angry, cowardly in many ways, yet also a frightened children deep down.
Their desire to be free through violence, to have power, and to have a narrative they're in control of has caused them to enter a self-destructive spiral and ironically they become slaves to their desire for freedom to the point that they lose sight of what that they really want (to be loved) and cut off the few positive relationships they have left, taking them away from what they really want.
Cinder only gets close to others for her own benefit and while she projects onto Emerald and Mercury and feels some affection for them, in the end she chooses to abuse and manipulate them and despite Eren genuinely loving his friends but in turn abusing them, he hits them and forces them to do things they don't want to do, Cinder and Eren both share a main flaw when it comes to their relationships and that is that they're afraid of loving other people, afraid of showing vulnerability, they don't trust others because they don't want to be hurt again. Their relationships are selfish love because they are based on how they feel without taking into account the feelings of others. This is so to the point that they also affect people with whom they have no close relationship because they steal agency because they have been deprived of it.
If you notice, Eren and Cinder seek to have a narrative like the trope of the chosen one: one person is a failure and having a series of horrible things happen to them only to realize that they were special for being the chosen one all along but to Eren and Cinder's disgrace they're not chosen but are a deconstruction of this trope.
Eren experienced a series of misfortunes and betrayals, he receives a power that shortens his life expectancy to 13 years and on top of that the whole world wants to destroy his home because of a war that he didn't know existed but wants to believe that he is the chosen one who was destined to activate the Rumbling and that there was no other solution to save his island. On the other hand, Cinder was abused her entire life and felt betrayed by the father figure who inspired her until Salem arrives and grants her the ability to be a Maiden (which is quite a dangerous position since many seek her power either through the power itself, the relics, or both) being left in an abusive situation with her and Cinder chooses to believe that she was meant to be the one chosen to have the Maiden's Powers.
They seek to be special because they hate themselves and they want power because they want control of their lives. They would rather be monsters that everyone fears
than admit that they're just traumatized and wounded children.
After all, what kind of person wanted to become a monster anyway?
A person pathetically unable to feel good as a human being.
We see that this deconstructed trope, far from being something good and rewarding, is actually dehumanizing. Eren knows that his mother's death was circumstantial but chooses to believe that he caused it and planned it only to feel like he was in control and Cinder chooses to believe that her role as Maiden is her destiny and that she destroyed the kingdom she hated to feel that it was by her own choice when actually everything was planned and decided by Salem.
Eren and Cinder are fascinating because of how contradictory they are, they want to be free but at the same time they want to adjust to a narrative where everything is decided for them. They both think that way because they believe that freedom consists of doing what they want without consequences, but what they don't know about freedom is this:
Here Ezio is explaining the meaning of "everything is permitted" from the assassins creed which is basically the meaning of having freedom. Freedom consists of making choices and taking responsibility for the consequences of those choices, but Eren and Cinder don't make their own decisions and when they do they don't want to take responsibility for them. They want the feeling of power and control that comes with choice, but they don't want the responsibility for it.
Eren knows about the world situation regarding Paradis and he wanted to protect his friends and home but deep down he just wanted revenge against the world and the system that hurt him. He didn't want the world to be destroyed but he wanted to be the one to make that choice.
Cinder knows about the situation of the world of Remnant with the classism and discrimination that she and many others suffered and decided to perpetuate the cycle because she wanted revenge against a system that failed her. She doesn't care about the state of the world but she wanted to be important and Cinder, like Eren, is going to make a choice about the world but in turn she has the opportunity to make a different choice than Eren.
In a sense, Eren represents what could happen to Cinder if she doesn't realize her way of thinking that she has to be the chosen one to prove her worth as a person and not acknowledge her pain and the pain she caused others will get her nowhere. She needs to realize that she doesn't need to prove her worth but to acknowledge that she is already valuable and special just by existing, which Eren failed to do. Eren was called to realize it by his friends but he failed because he prioritize his self-loathing and anger against the world while Cinder will be called (possibly by Emerald and Mercury) to realize this and she will listen.
While Eren condemns himself by wanting to continue with his flaw (being afraid to love others, wanting to feel better about himself by hurting others and being special because his childish delusions of grandeur and his inability to let go of his childish feelings of entitlement) and not being able to grow, Cinder will grow as a person and overcome these same flaws. Both are very related to the final destiny of the world, except that Eren ultimately chooses to destroy his while Cinder ultimately will chooses to save it. Eren's choice was selfish and Cinder's will be selfless. Eren chooses to die because he cannot deal with the responsibility of his choice while Cinder will choose to die to save the world and will hold on to her final choice even knowing the consequences of taking it.
Eren died as a slave to his need to seek freedom and to feel better about himself in a chosen narrative but Cinder will die truly free for the first time in her life by recognizing what she really wants (to be loved, make her own choices and hold on to them with all the responsibility that entails).
Between Magic and Mirrors
Would you believe me if I told you that this character
is like this
and this?
While I watched Neo in RWBY, I couldn't help but notice the similarities she has to Umineko's Beatrice and Bleach's Sosuke Aizen and I'll explain all of these in more detail here:
NEOPOLITAN AND BEATRICE - IMAGINATION, MAGIC AND ESCAPISM
Beatrice is a character of Umineko who is known to be the Golden Witch but her true identity is Sayo Yasuda, Kinzo's illegitimate daughter born by incest who after Natsuhi accidentally pushed the servant who was holding Sayo causing Sayo to lose her private parts, being saved by Genji and Kumasawa who raise her in secret to avoid another incestuous episode by Kinzo. This caused Sayo to have insecurities about herself and her own gender and to make matters worse the other maids start to pester her for her clumsiness in her work as a maid and her only friend was Kumasawa with whom she develops a love for mystery stories and magic in general. Sayo was unhappy and always alone so she started creating imaginary friends to make up for her loneliness and because of her love for magic she created Proto Beatrice (later know as Gaap) to explain her own clumsiness and later creates Shannon persona, the perfect servant girl. Sayo's imagination becomes her refuge but also her prison because it gave relief to her loneliness and made her feel good about herself but in turn this isolated her from others. Later she meets Battler and for the first time she doesn't feel lonely for long but due to her loneliness she trusts Battler too much to the point that she takes seriously Battler's promise that he would come back for her but when he doesn't come back which makes Sayo feel betrayed but to make matters worse she discovers her true identity as Kinzo's illegitimate daughter, she goes mad, takes Beatrice persona as her own and think that she's a real witch.
Later Sayo causes Rokenjima incident as a way to get revenge on the family that hurt her and especially Battler for leaving her alone but in turn she feels bad for everything she has done and chooses to commit suicide by drowning in the sea.
In the meta world Beatrice plays the killing games with Battler so that he knows that the reason for the Rokenjima incident is so that he would remember the promise he made to her when she was Sayo.
Do you know who more was born in a rich and toxic family that hurt her for her disability, used her imagination as a form of freedom and escapism and ended up loving a man just so that when that man disappears she goes mad and seeks revenge as a result?
Beatrice and Neo are adults who act like children so they lash out at others but they don't take responsibility for their actions nor do they realize how their actions hurt others, they only care about their own pain. This is even seen when Sayo and Trivia create their imaginary friends (Gaap or Proto Beatrice and Pink Neopolitan) not only to feel accompanied but also to blame them for their mistakes.
Beatrice's actions led to the terrible situation that Eva was forced to live in as the sole survivor of her family and having to deal with the media accusation that she killed everyone on the island when in fact Eva was suffering for the loss of her husband Hideyoshi and her son George and the rejection of Ange and Ange herself had to endure being bullied at school for being the daughter of Rudolf and Kyrie, alleged murderers of Rokenjima, and also in her desire for her parents to return, rejected Eva believing that her parents and brother would come back for her. Battler was also hurt by Beatrice's actions because by trying to follow her and stay with her in her death, he survives but doesn't remember anything and is found by Ikuko Hachiyo who he marries and is tormented by memories that come to him through nightmares. Neo for her part wants revenge against Cinder but she is manipulated for her to help her and unload her anger against Ruby which makes Neo help Cinder to destroy an entire kingdom without mentioning that her actions are indirectly helping Salem to destroy the world because Salem's plan is to make the world a chaotic place so that when the Brother Gods are summoned they will destroy the world as a result of the chaos that exists.
Another thing that both have in common is their powers and how both are based on the manipulation of reality through imagination to some extent. Beatrice is a witch whose powers basically consist of making what she imagines come true, forcing reality to make what she believes to be real be real because Sayo, her true identity, dealt with loneliness through her imagination. The above can be seen from the fact that she didn't ask to revive Sakutaro because she believed that Rosa denied it but Angel revives him simply because she believed that Sakutaro was alive by having a spare stuffed animal.
Neo's semblance allows her to manifest whatever she imagines into reality in illusions made of glass that everyone can see.
Both powers force reality to operate under the rules of Beatrice and Neo and even said powers are enhanced in places linked to the imagination (the Golden Land is a kingdom created by Beatrice where everything she thinks comes true and Neo is in Ever After, a magical place where it reflects the psyche of the characters and therefore also reflects the imagination). Beatrice's golden magic and Neo's semblance are perfect powers for a lonely and imaginative child and for deadly assassins, imagination is a double-edged sword because although Beatrice and Neo deal with their loneliness with their imagination (they create imaginary friends) and it gives them the freedom they feel they don't have with their original identities (Beatrice - Sayo Yasuda, Neopolitan - Trivia Vanille) in turn they get stuck in their own heads who just can't accept reality and instead look for reality to be as they want or believe it should be.
Beatrice and Neo are witches, Beatrice, as I said before, is the Golden Witch and Neopolitan is based on Trivia, the Roman goddess of witchcraft and there is something interesting about the concept of a witch in Umineko which is that a person becomes a witch by feeling rejection of their reality but they puts aside their humanity and their ties to other people and this also applies in RWBY: Sayo couldn't stand her life as a human and took the identity of Beatrice to feel free and take revenge and in the end she ends up in the Golden Land and in RWBY while team RWBY looks to get out of Ever After and Jaune can't get out until he gets help, Neo seems rather comfortable in Ever After and may even want to stay there.
Beatrice dies in real life not accepting the blame for her actions and ends up alone in the Golden Land until the end of Umineko where Battler finally reunites with her and Neo is running the risk of ending up just like Beatrice: ending up as a lonely witch in an imaginary world.
NEOPOLITAN AND SOSUKE AIZEN - LIVING MIRRORS
If there is something we know about Neo, it is how she is essentially a living mirror, not only because she creates illusions made of glass that everyone can see, but also because she is a mirror for the characters, especially for Ruby, but they know that another character curiously share these same traits with Neo?
Sosuke Aizen is a character from Bleach and one of the main antagonists of the manga. Not only does he share some physical similarities with Neo, but his powers are illusions visible to all who have seen his Shikai's activation and something curious is that Neo's and Aizen's illusions are made of glass.
Glass is an element that in fiction represents fragility, which gives us clues that Aizen and Neo's senses of identity are as fragile as glass itself: Aizen's identity is fragile because it is only based on what he can do (his intellect and his powers) to the point that he feels that morality does not apply to him, he feels that only he can change and rule the Soul Society and Ichigo even speculates that the reason Aizen wanted to conquer Soul Society was because of his desire for an equal, that his extreme power and intelligence only served to isolate him from the moment he was born (this can be seen in his effort to strengthen Ichigo as well as his respect for Kisuke Urahara stems from seeing them as equals) and Neo feels oppressed by her own family for not accepting her because of her disability and she unconsciously feels that no one is going to accept her and takes refuge in her idealized identity (Neopolitan) where she is powerful and free to do what she wants without being nobody oppresses her but she defines herself only by her bond with Roman (after their relationship goes from transactional to something genuine, Roman is the only one who respects her and wants her) and her life as a criminal that gives her freedom makes her dependent on Roman and unable to form bonds with others. Aizen and Neo were born with physical and/or mental conditions (Aizen - high intellect and enormous spiritual pressure and Neo - muteness and her semblance) that made them feel different from others, which caused their actions and their identity to be based on said conditions to the point that their powers they serve to reflect that sense of self that both have of themselves: sharp but fragile.
Aizen and Neo not only have a glass motif because of their fragile sense of self but also because they are mirrors that reflect the characters.
Aizen is a reflects that reflects Kisuke, Toshiro, Starrk and even Ichigo himself:
Aizen reflects Kisuke because they are both renowned geniuses for their great intellect and even looking to create something new just because they could just because Kisuke has moral boundaries that he dares not cross and Aizen just doesn't care about morals.
Aizen reflects Toshiro in the sense that they were both born prodigies having extremely enormous power and were ostracized because of it but Toshiro didn't let their power define him as a person but saw it as a part of himself and he managed to bond with the others while Aizen saw his power and intellect as his complete identity, which made him unable to have a bond with anyone.
Aizen reflects Starrk because they are both extremely powerful beings but this distanced them from each other because the others were weaker than them, making both wish they were weak in order to bond with others or meet people who were as strong as them or mlre. Starrk created Lilinette and found people (including Aizen himself) for him to be with without being overwhelmed by his power, relieving his loneliness while Aizen is unable to bond with anyone because he finds no one he considers an equal or that they are powerful enough that they are able to withstand his own power.
Aizen reflects Ichigo because they are both extremely powerful but both just want to be normal, the difference is that Ichigo knows that this is his wish, he expresses it openly and in the end lives a normal life with his family while Aizen does not recognize or realize it of that desire and seeks to be superior to others.
Neo is also a mirror that reflects other characters, in her case, Team RWBY and Jaune:
Neo reflects Ruby in that they both deal incorrectly with the loss of a loved one, refuse to examine themselves so they can't face said loss, and dress like said loved ones (Ruby wears clothing resembling the ones her mother Summer wore and Neo wears Roman's hat and gray cloth) to feel close to them and/or to feel that they are still alive in some way. Ruby suppresses everything she feels and decides to move on and Neo gets carried away by her emotions to the point that she doesn't care if she and others get hurt.
Neo reflects Weiss in the sense that they both grew up in a rich but toxic family and wanted to be free but Weiss grows as a person because she had the support of Winter and then she has the positive support of RWBY which allows when Weiss goes down in Ever After After losing her father and her home, she doesn't lash out at anyone but rather seeks to leave the place while Neo has no personal growth because she did not know anyone, she loses her parents who oppressed her and Roman is left, who does love her but his support it's not positive and when she loses him Neo gets angry and lashes out at others and doesn't seem to be concerned about staying in Ever After.
Neo reflects Blake because they were both born with conditions that make them different from the others (Blake is a Faunos and Neo is mute) and they were strongly discriminated for it and they both get together with a man (Adam and Roman) who lead them astray but they stay with them for accepting them only Adam becomes more and more violent and Blake leaves him to have a better life and manages to have healthy relationships with other people while Neo stays with Roman and she doesn't form bonds with other people and Roman, unlike Adam with Blake, he truly respects and loves Neo but being a criminal he led her down that same path and when Neo loses him she has no one else.
Neo reflects Yang in the sense that they are both proud of who they are and violently attack all those who hurt their loved ones and don't think about the consequences of their actions. The difference is that Yang learns that she shouldn't live and show only her idealized self but must accept that her vulnerability is a part of her identity and that she shouldn't reject it and she also learns that violence is not the answer to everything but has to to think things through before doing them and pay attention to the big picture while Neo clings to her idealized identity but puts aside his share of Trivia (her vulnerability) and Neo in her eagerness to lash out without thinking doesn't think about her actions which makes her easy for Cinder to manipulate neither does she think that what happened to Roman was partly his own fault and partly just a circunstance that could have happened at any time nor does she think about the bigger picture and how their actions affect that big picture.
Neo reflects Jaune in the sense that they were both seeking revenge for the death of a loved one (Pyrrha and Roman) at the hands of Cinder (only Roman didn't die directly for Cinder but he die by agreeing to do her plan) because they have no idea how to deal with the pain of losing a loved one and in turn cling to an idealized identity that gives them a sense of purpose (Jaune as a knight and Neo in his current Neopolitan identity). Jaune tries to take revenge on Cinder but everything goes wrong until he discovers his semblance and saves Weiss and puts aside his revenge, later in Atlas he learns to improve his defense and embraces his identity as a knight until he is forced to kill Penny because she asks him and from what we has seen, Jaune will have to examine himself, accept Penny's death and also accept the fact that he hurt her in order to reconcile with himself and find a new purpose and grow as a person while that Neo tries to take revenge on Cinder but she manipulates her into helping her and attack Ruby, and later betrays her and Neo instead of examining herself and her purpose that has her current identity, she simply chooses to stay with her current purpose which is to continue attacking Ruby and probably against Cinder, doesn't accept Roman's death and she doesn't care if she or others get hurt because of her which makes Neo have no personal growth.
The fact that Aizen and Neo reflect the characters is so true that they can even literally become reflections of the characters as if they were mirrors. They reflect what the characters hide from themselves or what they can become if they give in to their flaws and even Aizen and Neo use their powers to confuse their enemies and turn them against themselves.
Like I said earlier, Neo, Beatrice and Aizen have powers that influence reality to make it whatever they want but they don't get what they really want. Basically their powers make them writers but they are writers who don't know write a story that they like, being writers of their own tragedy: Sayo ends everything and just wants to die, Aizen wants company but never realizes his wish and ends Sealed in the Muken and Neo can't accept Roman's death and lashes out at everything and everyone, leading to a bad ending for Beatrice and Aizen and Neo runs the risk of ending up having a bad ending like Beatrice and Aizen.
Eren and Cinder: Slaves of Freedom
Many people hate Eren and Cinder to the point that they consider them bad characters and it's one thing to dislike a character and another to be badly written and to be fair, Eren and Cinder aren't bad characters. You might dislike them, very much actually, but one thing doesn't take away the other, they're both well written and I'm writing this because I don't want people to think they're bad characters just because they don't like them.
They both share a strong desire for freedom and in this post I'm going to explore their desire for freedom, why they became obsessed with being free as well as other things they share:
Eren and Cinder suffered since they were children due to situations that were beyond their control. Eren witnessed the destruction of his home and the death of his mother Carla as well as being turned into a titan by his father Grisha and later on he would suffer a series of betrayals and find out that everything bad that happened to him was the product of a war that he did not even know existed and Cinder was mistreated on the farm where she was sheltered until Madame adopted her but this mistreatment went from bad to worse, then Rhodes gives her hope of being free as a huntress but she could not bear the abuse and she kills her abusers and then fights Rhodes and kills him.
Both situations are quite different but the effect it caused on both is practically the same: they hate themselves for their impotence and want to be free because they want to have control of their lives, give meaning to all pain they went through and believe that power and violence is the only thing that can give them what they want. Eren and Cinder are victims of a system bigger than them that failed them and they choose to destroy it but at the cost of being left alone in a toxic and self-destructive cycle.
Basically, this is how they want to be seen by others (powerful and untouchable)
because this is what they really are (pathetic and unsure of themselves)
and they know it better than anyone and they hate themselves for it. They're irrational, immature, angry, cowardly in many ways, yet also a frightened children deep down.
Their desire to be free through violence, to have power, and to have a narrative they're in control of has caused them to enter a self-destructive spiral and ironically they become slaves to their desire for freedom to the point that they lose sight of what that they really want (to be loved) and cut off the few positive relationships they have left, taking them away from what they really want.
Cinder only gets close to others for her own benefit and while she projects onto Emerald and Mercury and feels some affection for them, in the end she chooses to abuse and manipulate them and despite Eren genuinely loving his friends but in turn abusing them, he hits them and forces them to do things they don't want to do, Cinder and Eren both share a main flaw when it comes to their relationships and that is that they're afraid of loving other people, afraid of showing vulnerability, they don't trust others because they don't want to be hurt again. Their relationships are selfish love because they are based on how they feel without taking into account the feelings of others. This is so to the point that they also affect people with whom they have no close relationship because they steal agency because they have been deprived of it.
If you notice, Eren and Cinder seek to have a narrative like the trope of the chosen one: one person is a failure and having a series of horrible things happen to them only to realize that they were special for being the chosen one all along but to Eren and Cinder's disgrace they're not chosen but are a deconstruction of this trope.
Eren experienced a series of misfortunes and betrayals, he receives a power that shortens his life expectancy to 13 years and on top of that the whole world wants to destroy his home because of a war that he didn't know existed but wants to believe that he is the chosen one who was destined to activate the Rumbling and that there was no other solution to save his island. On the other hand, Cinder was abused her entire life and felt betrayed by the father figure who inspired her until Salem arrives and grants her the ability to be a Maiden (which is quite a dangerous position since many seek her power either through the power itself, the relics, or both) being left in an abusive situation with her and Cinder chooses to believe that she was meant to be the one chosen to have the Maiden's Powers.
They seek to be special because they hate themselves and they want power because they want control of their lives. They would rather be monsters that everyone fears
than admit that they're just traumatized and wounded children.
After all, what kind of person wanted to become a monster anyway?
A person pathetically unable to feel good as a human being.
We see that this deconstructed trope, far from being something good and rewarding, is actually dehumanizing. Eren knows that his mother's death was circumstantial but chooses to believe that he caused it and planned it only to feel like he was in control and Cinder chooses to believe that her role as Maiden is her destiny and that she destroyed the kingdom she hated to feel that it was by her own choice when actually everything was planned and decided by Salem.
Eren and Cinder are fascinating because of how contradictory they are, they want to be free but at the same time they want to adjust to a narrative where everything is decided for them. They both think that way because they believe that freedom consists of doing what they want without consequences, but what they don't know about freedom is this:
Here Ezio is explaining the meaning of "everything is permitted" from the assassins creed which is basically the meaning of having freedom. Freedom consists of making choices and taking responsibility for the consequences of those choices, but Eren and Cinder don't make their own decisions and when they do they don't want to take responsibility for them. They want the feeling of power and control that comes with choice, but they don't want the responsibility for it.
Eren knows about the world situation regarding Paradis and he wanted to protect his friends and home but deep down he just wanted revenge against the world and the system that hurt him. He didn't want the world to be destroyed but he wanted to be the one to make that choice.
Cinder knows about the situation of the world of Remnant with the classism and discrimination that she and many others suffered and decided to perpetuate the cycle because she wanted revenge against a system that failed her. She doesn't care about the state of the world but she wanted to be important and Cinder, like Eren, is going to make a choice about the world but in turn she has the opportunity to make a different choice than Eren.
In a sense, Eren represents what could happen to Cinder if she doesn't realize her way of thinking that she has to be the chosen one to prove her worth as a person and not acknowledge her pain and the pain she caused others will get her nowhere. She needs to realize that she doesn't need to prove her worth but to acknowledge that she is already valuable and special just by existing, which Eren failed to do. Eren was called to realize it by his friends but he failed because he prioritize his self-loathing and anger against the world while Cinder will be called (possibly by Emerald and Mercury) to realize this and she will listen.
While Eren condemns himself by wanting to continue with his flaw (being afraid to love others, wanting to feel better about himself by hurting others and being special because his childish delusions of grandeur and his inability to let go of his childish feelings of entitlement) and not being able to grow, Cinder will grow as a person and overcome these same flaws. Both are very related to the final destiny of the world, except that Eren ultimately chooses to destroy his while Cinder ultimately will chooses to save it. Eren's choice was selfish and Cinder's will be selfless. Eren chooses to die because he cannot deal with the responsibility of his choice while Cinder will choose to die to save the world and will hold on to her final choice even knowing the consequences of taking it.
Eren died as a slave to his need to seek freedom and to feel better about himself in a chosen narrative but Cinder will die truly free for the first time in her life by recognizing what she really wants (to be loved, make her own choices and hold on to them with all the responsibility that entails).
Lately I haven't stopped thinking that the conflict between Ruby and Neo works as some kind of foreshadowing or sample of what could happen with Salem.
Salem and Neo grew up in a controlling and dysfunctional family to the point where they wanted freedom above all else and met someone (Ozma and Roman) who gave them the freedom they craved.
Salem, like Neo, is angry about the death of a loved one (Neo for Roman's death and Salem for Ozma's death) and they blame others for their respective deaths (Neo blames Ruby in the same way that Salem blamed to the gods) and just as Neo vents her anger and pain by lashing out at everyone in Ever After without caring for her own physical or emotional well-being, Salem ended up lashing out at everyone (causing chaos and destruction throughout Remnant) not caring if it ends up destroyed her (she tried to commit suicide without success and waits for the gods to destroy everything in the hope that she can die). They also both don't care if they hurt others by being so caught up in their own pain that they consider the pain of others irrelevant.
Ever After and the whole situation with Ruby and Neo is like the conflict that the protagonists have with Salem but on a smaller scale, so this scenario could work as a kind of preparation for the protagonists when they finally face Salem because she cannot be destroyed but it can be stopped through empathy and communication, both on the part of the protagonists and on the part of Salem herself.
Something quite interesting is that the places where Curious Cat tries to possess Ruby and possesses Neo are the specific places that represent the main fights that Ruby and Neo have always had.
When CC tries to possess Ruby, the place he chooses to try to possess Ruby is her chest, in other words, in her heart. Ruby is a person who has trouble expressing her emotions (expressing her heart) because she always represses what she feels because she thinks that her duty as a leader and being the perfect hunter like her mother is much more important than her own personal feelings and others have unintentionally reinforced this idea to the point that Ruby takes it to an extreme. Metaphorically Ruby suppresses her heart in favor of living up to what she believes others expect of her.
Later when CC possesses Neo the place he chooses to possess her is through her mouth. Neo has always struggled to be heard, to have the freedom to express what she thinks the way she wants. Her parents forced her to talk, they forced her to use a text-to-speech app that she hated so much, and the reason she finally sides with Roman is because he's the first person in her entire life to really listen to her and not force her to express herself but respects Neo's way of expressing herself. Metaphorically Neo has been trying to express herself as a desperate way to be understood and not have to try to measure up to people who don't even bother trying to understand her.
CC realizes all of the above and tries to use it to his advantage: he knows that Ruby is emotionally devastated by everything that has happened to her and he offers to replace her heart (her emotions and identity) with his own but fails for intervention of Little and Neo. After failing with Ruby, he is going to possess Neo when he finds out that she no longer has a purpose to continue living because revenge was the only thing that inspired her to continue living and when she succeeds, Neo realizes that no matter what doing anything will bring her back Roman (the only person who really heard her) so she breaks down and as a result, CC manages to possess her forcing Neo to speak with a voice that is not her own but someone else's just as it happened in her past, only instead of being a text-to-speech app, it is a being that not only controls her voice but also controls her body and heart.
Gutsca and Emercury: Love, Self-Discovery and Healing
If there is something that I like and it caught my attention about Emerald and Mercury, it's that they are what I call the "shonen and younger" version of Guts and Casca because their personalities, circumstances and relationship are very similar and incredibly both couples are destined to achieve happiness through healing.
CASCA AND EMERALD - SEARCH OF LOVE AND AGENCY
If there is something that Emerald shares with Casca, apart from the fact that they are both dark-haired, it is the fact that both have been looking for love but at the same time society mistreats them to the point that both have hardened as a defense mechanism. The reason they are looked down upon so much by their societies is because Emerald and Casca are people who grew up poor.
Casca lived with her parents in a town that was constantly besieged by war and food shortages to the point that Casca's father sold her to a nobleman to feed fewer people in the home. Emerald grew up in poverty and if we go by the song I'm the One, she was abandoned and having no one's support she had to resort to robbery to survive only to find out one day while she was stealing and she was persecuted for that.
Both girls no longer have anywhere to run and are resigned to their fates until someone appears and offers to save them.
Griffith appears and saves Casca from being abused by the nobleman but he gives her his sword and tells Casca to defend herself which she does and Casca herself asks Griffith to accompany him as a mercenary and he accepts. Emerald is found by Cinder and she offers to support her and avoid being caught, to which Emerald responds with gratitude. Casca and Emerald feel indebted to Griffith and Cinder for giving them a place of belonging, but due to their personal traumas and mistreatment by society, they feel they have to constantly prove themselves to earn Griffith and Cinder's approval. to the point that externally they are harsh with others, for example when Guts and Mercury are recruited, Emerald and Casca disagree and reluctantly accept them but in a series of events in their search for love Casca and Emerald improve their relationship with them and ironically they get with Guts and Mercury what they have always wanted to get through Griffith and Cinder: to be loved by someone unconditionally.
It's Guts and Mercury that make her realize that they need to drop their dependency on Griffith and Cinder and have their own agency and they do it because they love and value them so much that when physically superior characters like Wyald and Tyrian threaten both women, Guts and Mercury do not hesitate to defend Casca and Emerald immediately. Guts respects Casca and values her fighting and leadership skills and Mercury shows concern for Emerald and they even joke between them.
Both women have a moment of closeness where they share their past with Guts and Mercury but while that happens both men tell Casca and Emerald what they need to hear:
Casca feels like she has to be strong all the time to not be looked down on for being a woman and now more, but at the same time she feels so insecure about herself for not fitting into feminine standards that when Guts sees her battle scars she is ashamed for this but Guts assures her that she is beautiful as she is and when they try to have sex Guts attacks her by remembering his past.
Emerald feels like she owes Cinder for supporting her and teaching her things and after Mercury tells Emerald that Cinder doesn't care about any of them, Emerald gets mad and tries to hit Mercury but he tells her the past about her while trying to attack her.
Curiously, both moments happen after an event where both women get so desperate about the disappearance of Griffith and Cinder that they almost die but Guts and Mercury save them. Griffith is imprisoned and the Hawks are hunted down by the king's orders and Casca, being Griffith's second in command, becomes the new leader of the band and is so tired that she tries to kill herself but is stopped by Guts and during the battle of Haven when Emerald sees that Cinder didn't come back, she gets desperate to the point that she uses her semblance to such a dangerous level that she ends up fainting because of it and Mercury tries to convince her to run away with him and Hazel but after she faints, Mercury along with Hazel they flee but do not leave Emerald behind.
And the most curious thing is that the scenes of closeness between Gutsca and Emercury happens when Griffith and Cinder are not there and what makes them have that moment of closeness that how both couples feel with respect to Griffith and Cinder but due to the environment in which Gutsca and Emercury find themselves both scenarios play out differently. Guts and Casca, being in a healthy environment, manage to reaffirm their feelings for each other and even set out to rescue Griffith, but Emerald and Mercury fail to reaffirm their feelings due to the dangerous environment in which they are and because they feel threatened by Tyrian and Salem and it doesn't even occur to them to go looking for Cinder for fear of retaliation Salem might take against them.
Another thing that Emerald and Casca share is their lack of agency and how they link love with being useful to others. Both are strong but everything they do is for someone else:
Casca wants to be with Griffith but since she knows that he will go with Princess Charlotte, Casca settles for being his sword.
Emerald does everything Cinder tells her to the point that she claims not to care about Salem but goes through with the plan just for Cinder's sake.
The desire to be useful to others that Casca and Emerald have come from the facts that they were abandoned in the past and that they both do not fit into the standards of their societies: Casca is a female mercenary, something very rare in society in the one who lives and Emerald is a poor girl who resorts to stealing to survive, so they must constantly prove their worth because deep down they are afraid that they will be abandoned again.
Something curious is that both have a connection with a minor who are catalysts for both women to face their abusers. Emerald along with Hazel and JJR save Oscar and free him so Casca could be important for the release of Moonlight Boy. However, after saving the minor, both lose the point and do not face their abusers, Emerald flees with Oscar and his team but ignores Cinder, the same could happen with Casca but she doesn't confront Griffith.
Thematically, the narrative of both stories shows with this that Casca and Emerald do not face their abusers because they should not confront their abusers alone and that they will only confront them with Guts and Mercury by their side since both men were also abused by Griffith and Cinder (and later,in Emercury's case, by Salem and Tyrian).
Later in the story, Casca and Emerald get trapped in places they don't want to be together with their abusers.
As I said before, Griffith takes Casca to Falconia and Emerald stays in Monstra with Cinder and Salem. However, once Hazel learns the truth about Salem helping Emerald and Oscar escape and she joins the latter's team and escapes with them, the story hints that Emerald must reunite with Mercury and make him face his pain, confront Tyrian together and then both go to confront Cinder and finally help stop Salem. Similarly, Casca tries to escape from Falconia and fails but the story hints that Casca might have possible allies to help her escape so she can reunite with Guts to make Guts deal with his trauma properly so that they both ultimately confront Griffith.
GUTS AND MERCURY - ABUSE AND HEALING
Guts and Mercury show us as mocking people who are not afraid of anything and do bad things without caring what happens to others and even gloat over their cruelty but the more we are shown about them it is revealed that that attitude is just a facade to hide their pain for their traumas, their lack of self-esteem and avoid being hurt. They even dress in dark clothes in an attempt to emphasize the facade they are desperately trying to maintain.
Both were raised by a violent father figure and sought his approval but were betrayed by said figures:
Guts was desperate for Gambino's approval but he sells him out to Donovan who abuses Guts and then Gambino tries to kill him because he blames him for the death of his wife Shisu and Guts ends up killing him in self defense and is forced to flee.
Marcus Black was also a mercenary and just like Gambino he raised Mercury to be a mercenary and was quite violent with him to the point that he took his semblance from him and promised him that if he became stronger he would return it to him but he never did and Mercury ended up killing Marcus.
Although Guts and Mercury killed their respective abusive father figures, the truth is that psychologically they are still trapped with them since Guts and Mercury are still mercenaries because it is the only thing they are good at and they have never learned to do anything other than have such low self-esteem that they have nothing to hope for other than surviving one more day, all of the above is even seen in the fact that when they have free time, Guts and Mercury don't enjoy doing other things but just spend their free time training their combat skills. Both are so caught up in their father figures that when they both do something, the first thing they do is remember Gambino and Marcus.
Guts: "Where am I going? I still don’t have the answer to that, Gambino."
Mercury: "My dad always said... if you need to know a city, ask the rats."
Later, both are recruited by Griffith and Cinder who are interested in Guts and Mercury because of their combat capabilities. Griffith takes an interest in Guts after seeing him fight Bazuso and his lack of care for himself and Cinder wanted to recruit Marcus but seeing that Mercury was the only one there she recruits him hoping he will be good at fighting like Marcus was before he died.
The truth is that, as I mentioned earlier, Guts and Mercury's own lack of self-esteem is so great that they both do not realize that their actions emotionally affect those around them because both Guts and Mercury see themselves as disposable and replaceable, this can be seen when Guts and Mercury leave Griffith and Cinder in search of self-motivation and to be seen as their equals:
Guts wants to be worthy of being Griffith's friend and believes he must either get his own motivation or dream.
Mercury believes it is impossible to be Cinder's equal but obeys her and Salem sensing that it is his purpose.
All above causes Griffith and Cinder to be angry and sad (in Cinder's case) and despair (in Griffith's). Griffith becomes so visibly desperate that even he ends up having sex with Princess Charlotte to feel like he has control over something.
Cinder looks angry and then visibly sad when Mercury notifies her that he no longer works for her because Salem told him promoted to an official member of her Inner Circle.
Or when both in that same decision end up having to leave Casca and Emerald behind.
But what they both don't realize is that they have always had their motivation in front of their eyes the whole time and it isn't until later that they realize about that:
Speaking of Casca and Emerald, both women function as the heart of Guts and Mercury as they are the only ones with whom they have shared their past traumas. Before Guts and Casca have sex after the waterfall kiss scene, she shares her trauma with Guts and after their first attempt at sex fails because Guts remembers his childhood trauma, Casca understands and doesn't judge him for it and Guts listened to her.
During their stay at Salem Castle, Emerald first asks Mercury why he joined Cinder and he tells her that he did it because it made sense to him as a mercenary to which Emerald shares his past of her with Cinder to Mercury along the way. He assures her that Cinder doesn't care about either of them, which angers Emerald and starts a fight in which Mercury tells Emerald about his past de ella only for Tyrian to appear and scenes much later Emerald looks for Mercury to apologize with him but he doesn't listen to her because he is visibly scared to see how Salem creates grimm.
The thing here is that Guts's departure occurs before that and Mercury's departure occurs after which makes both scenarios have the opposite effect: with Guts and Casca it works because long after Guts's departure they are in a healthy environment where they are free to express themselves without fear of others hurting them, with Emerald and Mercury it fails because the environment they are both in is toxic and they have people who use that vulnerability to harm them as happens in that same scene with Tyrian or as Salem constantly scares them and two seasons later Mercury separates from Emerald fearing what Salem might do if he doesn't obey her. Even Tyrian acts as the opposite of Judeau since both characters appear after this scene, they encourage both couples to leave and are honest about it.
Judeau: "You should take Casca with you this time."
Tyrian: "Do what makes you happy, children... please? I'm begging you..."
But while Judeau appeared a lot after the Guts and Casca scene and he told them that because he wants them to Guts and Casca (whom he had romantic feelings for) are happy, Tyrian shows up right away and he told them that with the intention of them leaving so he can kill them.
Later, Mercury's departure to Vacuo occurs and it can be compared to Guts' departure when he left Casca in Godo's cave after the Eclipse, since both departures symbolize how Mercury and Guts are fleeing from a truth that they do not want to face for fear of the pain. Emerald tells Mercury what Salem is really up to but Mercury refuses to even believe her and when Tyrian confirms the truth, Mercury simply resigns himself and goes with Tyrian to Vacuo and Guts prefers to seek revenge against Griffith so he doesn't have to face the pain of losing the Hawks and the pain of how Casca was left after the Eclipse.
It's not until Godo makes Guts realize that what he had to do was stay with Casca, cry to get it off his chest and process his grief like Rickert did but instead he chose the easy path of violence that the only thing It did was worsen his trauma to such an extent that the Beast of Darkness was born as a result.
Basically Guts chose to run away from the pain instead of facing it (which ironically made him the same as Griffith) and because of it his trauma worsened to the point that he attacks Casca and she fears him for it but thanks to Guts remembering the words of Godo, he realizes his mistake and decides to find a cure for Casca and learns to trust others and accept their help, which causes him to embark on a self-healing journey but has a relapse after Casca's kidnapping by which plunges into darkness again but later Guts will realize that it is more important to get back to Casca and that he should not go on a killing spree like he did during his time as the Black Swordsman and in turn, Guts will have He has to face his traumas, accept the emotional help that others give him and the reality that he is hurt by the loss of the Hawks from which he flees through violence.
Mercury, like Guts, has always been running from pain by choosing to be violent and hide his pain by making himself and others believe that he is the tough and strong type to the point that he chooses to serve Salem at the cost of leaving. back to Emerald but in the Vacuo arc, Mercury, like Guts, will realize that he needs to return to Emerald, accept that it is okay to trust others and that he must face the reality about Salem and his own past traumas.
Gutsca and Emercury are relationships where both are hurt but are learning to heal, to raise their self esteem through the reciprocal love and feedback they have when they are in a healthy environment and both relationships are meant to heal with healthy support systems for continue healing until they are complete individuals and achieve happiness and in turn that healing love will be key to saving their respective worlds.
Guide My Way (Red like Roses part III) is a perfect continuation of the Red like Roses songs! Red like Roses I was musically all about Ruby, but lyrically it's not about her all. It's her connection yo her mother, and then to each of her teammates. Red like Roses part II is a literal dialogue between Ruby and Summer about the abandonment issuess and pressures and ideals a child si forced to burden after losing a parent. But Guide My Way is Ruby affirming her worth as her own person. She can still admire Summer but the true honoring of her isn't being her copy or her echo, it's being her own burning rose.
Between Magic and Mirrors
Would you believe me if I told you that this character
is like this
and this?
While I watched Neo in RWBY, I couldn't help but notice the similarities she has to Umineko's Beatrice and Bleach's Sosuke Aizen and I'll explain all of these in more detail here:
NEOPOLITAN AND BEATRICE - IMAGINATION, MAGIC AND ESCAPISM
Beatrice is a character of Umineko who is known to be the Golden Witch but her true identity is Sayo Yasuda, Kinzo's illegitimate daughter born by incest who after Natsuhi accidentally pushed the servant who was holding Sayo causing Sayo to lose her private parts, being saved by Genji and Kumasawa who raise her in secret to avoid another incestuous episode by Kinzo. This caused Sayo to have insecurities about herself and her own gender and to make matters worse the other maids start to pester her for her clumsiness in her work as a maid and her only friend was Kumasawa with whom she develops a love for mystery stories and magic in general. Sayo was unhappy and always alone so she started creating imaginary friends to make up for her loneliness and because of her love for magic she created Proto Beatrice (later know as Gaap) to explain her own clumsiness and later creates Shannon persona, the perfect servant girl. Sayo's imagination becomes her refuge but also her prison because it gave relief to her loneliness and made her feel good about herself but in turn this isolated her from others. Later she meets Battler and for the first time she doesn't feel lonely for long but due to her loneliness she trusts Battler too much to the point that she takes seriously Battler's promise that he would come back for her but when he doesn't come back which makes Sayo feel betrayed but to make matters worse she discovers her true identity as Kinzo's illegitimate daughter, she goes mad, takes Beatrice persona as her own and think that she's a real witch.
Later Sayo causes Rokenjima incident as a way to get revenge on the family that hurt her and especially Battler for leaving her alone but in turn she feels bad for everything she has done and chooses to commit suicide by drowning in the sea.
In the meta world Beatrice plays the killing games with Battler so that he knows that the reason for the Rokenjima incident is so that he would remember the promise he made to her when she was Sayo.
Do you know who more was born in a rich and toxic family that hurt her for her disability, used her imagination as a form of freedom and escapism and ended up loving a man just so that when that man disappears she goes mad and seeks revenge as a result?
Beatrice and Neo are adults who act like children so they lash out at others but they don't take responsibility for their actions nor do they realize how their actions hurt others, they only care about their own pain. This is even seen when Sayo and Trivia create their imaginary friends (Gaap or Proto Beatrice and Pink Neopolitan) not only to feel accompanied but also to blame them for their mistakes.
Beatrice's actions led to the terrible situation that Eva was forced to live in as the sole survivor of her family and having to deal with the media accusation that she killed everyone on the island when in fact Eva was suffering for the loss of her husband Hideyoshi and her son George and the rejection of Ange and Ange herself had to endure being bullied at school for being the daughter of Rudolf and Kyrie, alleged murderers of Rokenjima, and also in her desire for her parents to return, rejected Eva believing that her parents and brother would come back for her. Battler was also hurt by Beatrice's actions because by trying to follow her and stay with her in her death, he survives but doesn't remember anything and is found by Ikuko Hachiyo who he marries and is tormented by memories that come to him through nightmares. Neo for her part wants revenge against Cinder but she is manipulated for her to help her and unload her anger against Ruby which makes Neo help Cinder to destroy an entire kingdom without mentioning that her actions are indirectly helping Salem to destroy the world because Salem's plan is to make the world a chaotic place so that when the Brother Gods are summoned they will destroy the world as a result of the chaos that exists.
Another thing that both have in common is their powers and how both are based on the manipulation of reality through imagination to some extent. Beatrice is a witch whose powers basically consist of making what she imagines come true, forcing reality to make what she believes to be real be real because Sayo, her true identity, dealt with loneliness through her imagination. The above can be seen from the fact that she didn't ask to revive Sakutaro because she believed that Rosa denied it but Angel revives him simply because she believed that Sakutaro was alive by having a spare stuffed animal.
Neo's semblance allows her to manifest whatever she imagines into reality in illusions made of glass that everyone can see.
Both powers force reality to operate under the rules of Beatrice and Neo and even said powers are enhanced in places linked to the imagination (the Golden Land is a kingdom created by Beatrice where everything she thinks comes true and Neo is in Ever After, a magical place where it reflects the psyche of the characters and therefore also reflects the imagination). Beatrice's golden magic and Neo's semblance are perfect powers for a lonely and imaginative child and for deadly assassins, imagination is a double-edged sword because although Beatrice and Neo deal with their loneliness with their imagination (they create imaginary friends) and it gives them the freedom they feel they don't have with their original identities (Beatrice - Sayo Yasuda, Neopolitan - Trivia Vanille) in turn they get stuck in their own heads who just can't accept reality and instead look for reality to be as they want or believe it should be.
Beatrice and Neo are witches, Beatrice, as I said before, is the Golden Witch and Neopolitan is based on Trivia, the Roman goddess of witchcraft and there is something interesting about the concept of a witch in Umineko which is that a person becomes a witch by feeling rejection of their reality but they puts aside their humanity and their ties to other people and this also applies in RWBY: Sayo couldn't stand her life as a human and took the identity of Beatrice to feel free and take revenge and in the end she ends up in the Golden Land and in RWBY while team RWBY looks to get out of Ever After and Jaune can't get out until he gets help, Neo seems rather comfortable in Ever After and may even want to stay there.
Beatrice dies in real life not accepting the blame for her actions and ends up alone in the Golden Land until the end of Umineko where Battler finally reunites with her and Neo is running the risk of ending up just like Beatrice: ending up as a lonely witch in an imaginary world.
NEOPOLITAN AND SOSUKE AIZEN - LIVING MIRRORS
If there is something we know about Neo, it is how she is essentially a living mirror, not only because she creates illusions made of glass that everyone can see, but also because she is a mirror for the characters, especially for Ruby, but they know that another character curiously share these same traits with Neo?
Sosuke Aizen is a character from Bleach and one of the main antagonists of the manga. Not only does he share some physical similarities with Neo, but his powers are illusions visible to all who have seen his Shikai's activation and something curious is that Neo's and Aizen's illusions are made of glass.
Glass is an element that in fiction represents fragility, which gives us clues that Aizen and Neo's senses of identity are as fragile as glass itself: Aizen's identity is fragile because it is only based on what he can do (his intellect and his powers) to the point that he feels that morality does not apply to him, he feels that only he can change and rule the Soul Society and Ichigo even speculates that the reason Aizen wanted to conquer Soul Society was because of his desire for an equal, that his extreme power and intelligence only served to isolate him from the moment he was born (this can be seen in his effort to strengthen Ichigo as well as his respect for Kisuke Urahara stems from seeing them as equals) and Neo feels oppressed by her own family for not accepting her because of her disability and she unconsciously feels that no one is going to accept her and takes refuge in her idealized identity (Neopolitan) where she is powerful and free to do what she wants without being nobody oppresses her but she defines herself only by her bond with Roman (after their relationship goes from transactional to something genuine, Roman is the only one who respects her and wants her) and her life as a criminal that gives her freedom makes her dependent on Roman and unable to form bonds with others. Aizen and Neo were born with physical and/or mental conditions (Aizen - high intellect and enormous spiritual pressure and Neo - muteness and her semblance) that made them feel different from others, which caused their actions and their identity to be based on said conditions to the point that their powers they serve to reflect that sense of self that both have of themselves: sharp but fragile.
Aizen and Neo not only have a glass motif because of their fragile sense of self but also because they are mirrors that reflect the characters.
Aizen is a reflects that reflects Kisuke, Toshiro, Starrk and even Ichigo himself:
Aizen reflects Kisuke because they are both renowned geniuses for their great intellect and even looking to create something new just because they could just because Kisuke has moral boundaries that he dares not cross and Aizen just doesn't care about morals.
Aizen reflects Toshiro in the sense that they were both born prodigies having extremely enormous power and were ostracized because of it but Toshiro didn't let their power define him as a person but saw it as a part of himself and he managed to bond with the others while Aizen saw his power and intellect as his complete identity, which made him unable to have a bond with anyone.
Aizen reflects Starrk because they are both extremely powerful beings but this distanced them from each other because the others were weaker than them, making both wish they were weak in order to bond with others or meet people who were as strong as them or mlre. Starrk created Lilinette and found people (including Aizen himself) for him to be with without being overwhelmed by his power, relieving his loneliness while Aizen is unable to bond with anyone because he finds no one he considers an equal or that they are powerful enough that they are able to withstand his own power.
Aizen reflects Ichigo because they are both extremely powerful but both just want to be normal, the difference is that Ichigo knows that this is his wish, he expresses it openly and in the end lives a normal life with his family while Aizen does not recognize or realize it of that desire and seeks to be superior to others.
Neo is also a mirror that reflects other characters, in her case, Team RWBY and Jaune:
Neo reflects Ruby in that they both deal incorrectly with the loss of a loved one, refuse to examine themselves so they can't face said loss, and dress like said loved ones (Ruby wears clothing resembling the ones her mother Summer wore and Neo wears Roman's hat and gray cloth) to feel close to them and/or to feel that they are still alive in some way. Ruby suppresses everything she feels and decides to move on and Neo gets carried away by her emotions to the point that she doesn't care if she and others get hurt.
Neo reflects Weiss in the sense that they both grew up in a rich but toxic family and wanted to be free but Weiss grows as a person because she had the support of Winter and then she has the positive support of RWBY which allows when Weiss goes down in Ever After After losing her father and her home, she doesn't lash out at anyone but rather seeks to leave the place while Neo has no personal growth because she did not know anyone, she loses her parents who oppressed her and Roman is left, who does love her but his support it's not positive and when she loses him Neo gets angry and lashes out at others and doesn't seem to be concerned about staying in Ever After.
Neo reflects Blake because they were both born with conditions that make them different from the others (Blake is a Faunos and Neo is mute) and they were strongly discriminated for it and they both get together with a man (Adam and Roman) who lead them astray but they stay with them for accepting them only Adam becomes more and more violent and Blake leaves him to have a better life and manages to have healthy relationships with other people while Neo stays with Roman and she doesn't form bonds with other people and Roman, unlike Adam with Blake, he truly respects and loves Neo but being a criminal he led her down that same path and when Neo loses him she has no one else.
Neo reflects Yang in the sense that they are both proud of who they are and violently attack all those who hurt their loved ones and don't think about the consequences of their actions. The difference is that Yang learns that she shouldn't live and show only her idealized self but must accept that her vulnerability is a part of her identity and that she shouldn't reject it and she also learns that violence is not the answer to everything but has to to think things through before doing them and pay attention to the big picture while Neo clings to her idealized identity but puts aside his share of Trivia (her vulnerability) and Neo in her eagerness to lash out without thinking doesn't think about her actions which makes her easy for Cinder to manipulate neither does she think that what happened to Roman was partly his own fault and partly just a circunstance that could have happened at any time nor does she think about the bigger picture and how their actions affect that big picture.
Neo reflects Jaune in the sense that they were both seeking revenge for the death of a loved one (Pyrrha and Roman) at the hands of Cinder (only Roman didn't die directly for Cinder but he die by agreeing to do her plan) because they have no idea how to deal with the pain of losing a loved one and in turn cling to an idealized identity that gives them a sense of purpose (Jaune as a knight and Neo in his current Neopolitan identity). Jaune tries to take revenge on Cinder but everything goes wrong until he discovers his semblance and saves Weiss and puts aside his revenge, later in Atlas he learns to improve his defense and embraces his identity as a knight until he is forced to kill Penny because she asks him and from what we has seen, Jaune will have to examine himself, accept Penny's death and also accept the fact that he hurt her in order to reconcile with himself and find a new purpose and grow as a person while that Neo tries to take revenge on Cinder but she manipulates her into helping her and attack Ruby, and later betrays her and Neo instead of examining herself and her purpose that has her current identity, she simply chooses to stay with her current purpose which is to continue attacking Ruby and probably against Cinder, doesn't accept Roman's death and she doesn't care if she or others get hurt because of her which makes Neo have no personal growth.
The fact that Aizen and Neo reflect the characters is so true that they can even literally become reflections of the characters as if they were mirrors. They reflect what the characters hide from themselves or what they can become if they give in to their flaws and even Aizen and Neo use their powers to confuse their enemies and turn them against themselves.
Like I said earlier, Neo, Beatrice and Aizen have powers that influence reality to make it whatever they want but they don't get what they really want. Basically their powers make them writers but they are writers who don't know write a story that they like, being writers of their own tragedy: Sayo ends everything and just wants to die, Aizen wants company but never realizes his wish and ends Sealed in the Muken and Neo can't accept Roman's death and lashes out at everything and everyone, leading to a bad ending for Beatrice and Aizen and Neo runs the risk of ending up having a bad ending like Beatrice and Aizen.
Lately I haven't stopped thinking that the conflict between Ruby and Neo works as some kind of foreshadowing or sample of what could happen with Salem.
Salem and Neo grew up in a controlling and dysfunctional family to the point where they wanted freedom above all else and met someone (Ozma and Roman) who gave them the freedom they craved.
Salem, like Neo, is angry about the death of a loved one (Neo for Roman's death and Salem for Ozma's death) and they blame others for their respective deaths (Neo blames Ruby in the same way that Salem blamed to the gods) and just as Neo vents her anger and pain by lashing out at everyone in Ever After without caring for her own physical or emotional well-being, Salem ended up lashing out at everyone (causing chaos and destruction throughout Remnant) not caring if it ends up destroyed her (she tried to commit suicide without success and waits for the gods to destroy everything in the hope that she can die). They also both don't care if they hurt others by being so caught up in their own pain that they consider the pain of others irrelevant.
Ever After and the whole situation with Ruby and Neo is like the conflict that the protagonists have with Salem but on a smaller scale, so this scenario could work as a kind of preparation for the protagonists when they finally face Salem because she cannot be destroyed but it can be stopped through empathy and communication, both on the part of the protagonists and on the part of Salem herself.
Something quite interesting is that the places where Curious Cat tries to possess Ruby and possesses Neo are the specific places that represent the main fights that Ruby and Neo have always had.
When CC tries to possess Ruby, the place he chooses to try to possess Ruby is her chest, in other words, in her heart. Ruby is a person who has trouble expressing her emotions (expressing her heart) because she always represses what she feels because she thinks that her duty as a leader and being the perfect hunter like her mother is much more important than her own personal feelings and others have unintentionally reinforced this idea to the point that Ruby takes it to an extreme. Metaphorically Ruby suppresses her heart in favor of living up to what she believes others expect of her.
Later when CC possesses Neo the place he chooses to possess her is through her mouth. Neo has always struggled to be heard, to have the freedom to express what she thinks the way she wants. Her parents forced her to talk, they forced her to use a text-to-speech app that she hated so much, and the reason she finally sides with Roman is because he's the first person in her entire life to really listen to her and not force her to express herself but respects Neo's way of expressing herself. Metaphorically Neo has been trying to express herself as a desperate way to be understood and not have to try to measure up to people who don't even bother trying to understand her.
CC realizes all of the above and tries to use it to his advantage: he knows that Ruby is emotionally devastated by everything that has happened to her and he offers to replace her heart (her emotions and identity) with his own but fails for intervention of Little and Neo. After failing with Ruby, he is going to possess Neo when he finds out that she no longer has a purpose to continue living because revenge was the only thing that inspired her to continue living and when she succeeds, Neo realizes that no matter what doing anything will bring her back Roman (the only person who really heard her) so she breaks down and as a result, CC manages to possess her forcing Neo to speak with a voice that is not her own but someone else's just as it happened in her past, only instead of being a text-to-speech app, it is a being that not only controls her voice but also controls her body and heart.
Gutsca and Emercury: Love, Self-Discovery and Healing
If there is something that I like and it caught my attention about Emerald and Mercury, it's that they are what I call the "shonen and younger" version of Guts and Casca because their personalities, circumstances and relationship are very similar and incredibly both couples are destined to achieve happiness through healing.
CASCA AND EMERALD - SEARCH OF LOVE AND AGENCY
If there is something that Emerald shares with Casca, apart from the fact that they are both dark-haired, it is the fact that both have been looking for love but at the same time society mistreats them to the point that both have hardened as a defense mechanism. The reason they are looked down upon so much by their societies is because Emerald and Casca are people who grew up poor.
Casca lived with her parents in a town that was constantly besieged by war and food shortages to the point that Casca's father sold her to a nobleman to feed fewer people in the home. Emerald grew up in poverty and if we go by the song I'm the One, she was abandoned and having no one's support she had to resort to robbery to survive only to find out one day while she was stealing and she was persecuted for that.
Both girls no longer have anywhere to run and are resigned to their fates until someone appears and offers to save them.
Griffith appears and saves Casca from being abused by the nobleman but he gives her his sword and tells Casca to defend herself which she does and Casca herself asks Griffith to accompany him as a mercenary and he accepts. Emerald is found by Cinder and she offers to support her and avoid being caught, to which Emerald responds with gratitude. Casca and Emerald feel indebted to Griffith and Cinder for giving them a place of belonging, but due to their personal traumas and mistreatment by society, they feel they have to constantly prove themselves to earn Griffith and Cinder's approval. to the point that externally they are harsh with others, for example when Guts and Mercury are recruited, Emerald and Casca disagree and reluctantly accept them but in a series of events in their search for love Casca and Emerald improve their relationship with them and ironically they get with Guts and Mercury what they have always wanted to get through Griffith and Cinder: to be loved by someone unconditionally.
It's Guts and Mercury that make her realize that they need to drop their dependency on Griffith and Cinder and have their own agency and they do it because they love and value them so much that when physically superior characters like Wyald and Tyrian threaten both women, Guts and Mercury do not hesitate to defend Casca and Emerald immediately. Guts respects Casca and values her fighting and leadership skills and Mercury shows concern for Emerald and they even joke between them.
Both women have a moment of closeness where they share their past with Guts and Mercury but while that happens both men tell Casca and Emerald what they need to hear:
Casca feels like she has to be strong all the time to not be looked down on for being a woman and now more, but at the same time she feels so insecure about herself for not fitting into feminine standards that when Guts sees her battle scars she is ashamed for this but Guts assures her that she is beautiful as she is and when they try to have sex Guts attacks her by remembering his past.
Emerald feels like she owes Cinder for supporting her and teaching her things and after Mercury tells Emerald that Cinder doesn't care about any of them, Emerald gets mad and tries to hit Mercury but he tells her the past about her while trying to attack her.
Curiously, both moments happen after an event where both women get so desperate about the disappearance of Griffith and Cinder that they almost die but Guts and Mercury save them. Griffith is imprisoned and the Hawks are hunted down by the king's orders and Casca, being Griffith's second in command, becomes the new leader of the band and is so tired that she tries to kill herself but is stopped by Guts and during the battle of Haven when Emerald sees that Cinder didn't come back, she gets desperate to the point that she uses her semblance to such a dangerous level that she ends up fainting because of it and Mercury tries to convince her to run away with him and Hazel but after she faints, Mercury along with Hazel they flee but do not leave Emerald behind.
And the most curious thing is that the scenes of closeness between Gutsca and Emercury happens when Griffith and Cinder are not there and what makes them have that moment of closeness that how both couples feel with respect to Griffith and Cinder but due to the environment in which Gutsca and Emercury find themselves both scenarios play out differently. Guts and Casca, being in a healthy environment, manage to reaffirm their feelings for each other and even set out to rescue Griffith, but Emerald and Mercury fail to reaffirm their feelings due to the dangerous environment in which they are and because they feel threatened by Tyrian and Salem and it doesn't even occur to them to go looking for Cinder for fear of retaliation Salem might take against them.
Another thing that Emerald and Casca share is their lack of agency and how they link love with being useful to others. Both are strong but everything they do is for someone else:
Casca wants to be with Griffith but since she knows that he will go with Princess Charlotte, Casca settles for being his sword.
Emerald does everything Cinder tells her to the point that she claims not to care about Salem but goes through with the plan just for Cinder's sake.
The desire to be useful to others that Casca and Emerald have come from the facts that they were abandoned in the past and that they both do not fit into the standards of their societies: Casca is a female mercenary, something very rare in society in the one who lives and Emerald is a poor girl who resorts to stealing to survive, so they must constantly prove their worth because deep down they are afraid that they will be abandoned again.
Something curious is that both have a connection with a minor who are catalysts for both women to face their abusers. Emerald along with Hazel and JJR save Oscar and free him so Casca could be important for the release of Moonlight Boy. However, after saving the minor, both lose the point and do not face their abusers, Emerald flees with Oscar and his team but ignores Cinder, the same could happen with Casca but she doesn't confront Griffith.
Thematically, the narrative of both stories shows with this that Casca and Emerald do not face their abusers because they should not confront their abusers alone and that they will only confront them with Guts and Mercury by their side since both men were also abused by Griffith and Cinder (and later,in Emercury's case, by Salem and Tyrian).
Later in the story, Casca and Emerald get trapped in places they don't want to be together with their abusers.
As I said before, Griffith takes Casca to Falconia and Emerald stays in Monstra with Cinder and Salem. However, once Hazel learns the truth about Salem helping Emerald and Oscar escape and she joins the latter's team and escapes with them, the story hints that Emerald must reunite with Mercury and make him face his pain, confront Tyrian together and then both go to confront Cinder and finally help stop Salem. Similarly, Casca tries to escape from Falconia and fails but the story hints that Casca might have possible allies to help her escape so she can reunite with Guts to make Guts deal with his trauma properly so that they both ultimately confront Griffith.
GUTS AND MERCURY - ABUSE AND HEALING
Guts and Mercury show us as mocking people who are not afraid of anything and do bad things without caring what happens to others and even gloat over their cruelty but the more we are shown about them it is revealed that that attitude is just a facade to hide their pain for their traumas, their lack of self-esteem and avoid being hurt. They even dress in dark clothes in an attempt to emphasize the facade they are desperately trying to maintain.
Both were raised by a violent father figure and sought his approval but were betrayed by said figures:
Guts was desperate for Gambino's approval but he sells him out to Donovan who abuses Guts and then Gambino tries to kill him because he blames him for the death of his wife Shisu and Guts ends up killing him in self defense and is forced to flee.
Marcus Black was also a mercenary and just like Gambino he raised Mercury to be a mercenary and was quite violent with him to the point that he took his semblance from him and promised him that if he became stronger he would return it to him but he never did and Mercury ended up killing Marcus.
Although Guts and Mercury killed their respective abusive father figures, the truth is that psychologically they are still trapped with them since Guts and Mercury are still mercenaries because it is the only thing they are good at and they have never learned to do anything other than have such low self-esteem that they have nothing to hope for other than surviving one more day, all of the above is even seen in the fact that when they have free time, Guts and Mercury don't enjoy doing other things but just spend their free time training their combat skills. Both are so caught up in their father figures that when they both do something, the first thing they do is remember Gambino and Marcus.
Guts: "Where am I going? I still don’t have the answer to that, Gambino."
Mercury: "My dad always said... if you need to know a city, ask the rats."
Later, both are recruited by Griffith and Cinder who are interested in Guts and Mercury because of their combat capabilities. Griffith takes an interest in Guts after seeing him fight Bazuso and his lack of care for himself and Cinder wanted to recruit Marcus but seeing that Mercury was the only one there she recruits him hoping he will be good at fighting like Marcus was before he died.
The truth is that, as I mentioned earlier, Guts and Mercury's own lack of self-esteem is so great that they both do not realize that their actions emotionally affect those around them because both Guts and Mercury see themselves as disposable and replaceable, this can be seen when Guts and Mercury leave Griffith and Cinder in search of self-motivation and to be seen as their equals:
Guts wants to be worthy of being Griffith's friend and believes he must either get his own motivation or dream.
Mercury believes it is impossible to be Cinder's equal but obeys her and Salem sensing that it is his purpose.
All above causes Griffith and Cinder to be angry and sad (in Cinder's case) and despair (in Griffith's). Griffith becomes so visibly desperate that even he ends up having sex with Princess Charlotte to feel like he has control over something.
Cinder looks angry and then visibly sad when Mercury notifies her that he no longer works for her because Salem told him promoted to an official member of her Inner Circle.
Or when both in that same decision end up having to leave Casca and Emerald behind.
But what they both don't realize is that they have always had their motivation in front of their eyes the whole time and it isn't until later that they realize about that:
Speaking of Casca and Emerald, both women function as the heart of Guts and Mercury as they are the only ones with whom they have shared their past traumas. Before Guts and Casca have sex after the waterfall kiss scene, she shares her trauma with Guts and after their first attempt at sex fails because Guts remembers his childhood trauma, Casca understands and doesn't judge him for it and Guts listened to her.
During their stay at Salem Castle, Emerald first asks Mercury why he joined Cinder and he tells her that he did it because it made sense to him as a mercenary to which Emerald shares his past of her with Cinder to Mercury along the way. He assures her that Cinder doesn't care about either of them, which angers Emerald and starts a fight in which Mercury tells Emerald about his past de ella only for Tyrian to appear and scenes much later Emerald looks for Mercury to apologize with him but he doesn't listen to her because he is visibly scared to see how Salem creates grimm.
The thing here is that Guts's departure occurs before that and Mercury's departure occurs after which makes both scenarios have the opposite effect: with Guts and Casca it works because long after Guts's departure they are in a healthy environment where they are free to express themselves without fear of others hurting them, with Emerald and Mercury it fails because the environment they are both in is toxic and they have people who use that vulnerability to harm them as happens in that same scene with Tyrian or as Salem constantly scares them and two seasons later Mercury separates from Emerald fearing what Salem might do if he doesn't obey her. Even Tyrian acts as the opposite of Judeau since both characters appear after this scene, they encourage both couples to leave and are honest about it.
Judeau: "You should take Casca with you this time."
Tyrian: "Do what makes you happy, children... please? I'm begging you..."
But while Judeau appeared a lot after the Guts and Casca scene and he told them that because he wants them to Guts and Casca (whom he had romantic feelings for) are happy, Tyrian shows up right away and he told them that with the intention of them leaving so he can kill them.
Later, Mercury's departure to Vacuo occurs and it can be compared to Guts' departure when he left Casca in Godo's cave after the Eclipse, since both departures symbolize how Mercury and Guts are fleeing from a truth that they do not want to face for fear of the pain. Emerald tells Mercury what Salem is really up to but Mercury refuses to even believe her and when Tyrian confirms the truth, Mercury simply resigns himself and goes with Tyrian to Vacuo and Guts prefers to seek revenge against Griffith so he doesn't have to face the pain of losing the Hawks and the pain of how Casca was left after the Eclipse.
It's not until Godo makes Guts realize that what he had to do was stay with Casca, cry to get it off his chest and process his grief like Rickert did but instead he chose the easy path of violence that the only thing It did was worsen his trauma to such an extent that the Beast of Darkness was born as a result.
Basically Guts chose to run away from the pain instead of facing it (which ironically made him the same as Griffith) and because of it his trauma worsened to the point that he attacks Casca and she fears him for it but thanks to Guts remembering the words of Godo, he realizes his mistake and decides to find a cure for Casca and learns to trust others and accept their help, which causes him to embark on a self-healing journey but has a relapse after Casca's kidnapping by which plunges into darkness again but later Guts will realize that it is more important to get back to Casca and that he should not go on a killing spree like he did during his time as the Black Swordsman and in turn, Guts will have He has to face his traumas, accept the emotional help that others give him and the reality that he is hurt by the loss of the Hawks from which he flees through violence.
Mercury, like Guts, has always been running from pain by choosing to be violent and hide his pain by making himself and others believe that he is the tough and strong type to the point that he chooses to serve Salem at the cost of leaving. back to Emerald but in the Vacuo arc, Mercury, like Guts, will realize that he needs to return to Emerald, accept that it is okay to trust others and that he must face the reality about Salem and his own past traumas.
Gutsca and Emercury are relationships where both are hurt but are learning to heal, to raise their self esteem through the reciprocal love and feedback they have when they are in a healthy environment and both relationships are meant to heal with healthy support systems for continue healing until they are complete individuals and achieve happiness and in turn that healing love will be key to saving their respective worlds.
Guide My Way (Red like Roses part III) is a perfect continuation of the Red like Roses songs! Red like Roses I was musically all about Ruby, but lyrically it's not about her all. It's her connection yo her mother, and then to each of her teammates. Red like Roses part II is a literal dialogue between Ruby and Summer about the abandonment issuess and pressures and ideals a child si forced to burden after losing a parent. But Guide My Way is Ruby affirming her worth as her own person. She can still admire Summer but the true honoring of her isn't being her copy or her echo, it's being her own burning rose.
Is Ruby Rose (RWBY) a Mary Sue?
Definition of Mary Sue;
In an earlier post, I described the 'Mary Sue' as a narrative trope instead of a character archetype. A 'Mary Sue' occurs when a character's story overshadows the stories of the other characters.
Example;
Harry Potter in the last four books is a Mary Sue mostly because everything after book four is somehow tied to Harry, no matter how obscure or far removed. As a result, the story shrinks around Harry and the world of Magic becomes less interesting the more it focuses on Harry and his conflict with Voldemort.
Is Ruby is Mary Sue?
Based on my definition, no. She is just a badly written character. While all Mary Sues are badly written, not all badly written characters are Mary Sues.
Ozpin is more of the Mary Sue in RWBY. This is because most of RWBY's plot centers around Ozpin's mistakes and his relationships. Especially with Salem.
Therefore, Ruby Rose is not a Mary Sue.
Your points are fair. However, in this instance at least, I am experimenting with a different definition of Mary Sue. So I will respectfully agree with your interpretation of your very valid points to a certain extent only. I hope that you won't take offense for I mean none.
I believe that the ultimate nature of stories and narratives would inevitably favor the Main Characters, or the Protagonists. The classic mythologies are a good example of this, where the gods would intervene to assist the Hero in their quest.
An example of this would be Achilles. By the common definition of Mary Sue, Achilles would be a Mary Sue. Invincible, gets help from the gods through the story, and he is ultimately proven right over his rival, Agamemnon through the plot working in Achilles's favor.
There is an overlap between a naturally developing Main Character and Mary Sue which is better differentiated when one looks at the issue of Mary Sue as a narrative trope rather than a character trope.
Going back to the Achilles example. Achilles does not come across as a Mary Sue because Achilles is a part of a larger world that the Illiad builds throughout the narrative. Achilles does not overshadow the stories of the other characters through the Illiad's narrative, which allows the audience to understand Achilles not just as a part of the world, but also as APART from the world. Since he is partly divine due to his birth.
Looking at RWBY, I believe that Ruby Rose is a victim of Ozpin's issues that extends centuries before the start of RWBY proper. Ruby is not allowed to have her own story because she has to solve Ozpin's problems. Which is why Ruby's story gets twisted up not to make her 'always right', but to carry Ozpin's poorly written story onward.
Ruby is the main character, but this is not her story. Which I believe is the fundamental issue of RWBY and can only be addressed when a different definition of 'Mary Sue' is used to identify the true culprit of the poor writing. So to speak.
Is Ruby Rose (RWBY) a Mary Sue?
Definition of Mary Sue;
In an earlier post, I described the 'Mary Sue' as a narrative trope instead of a character archetype. A 'Mary Sue' occurs when a character's story overshadows the stories of the other characters.
Example;
Harry Potter in the last four books is a Mary Sue mostly because everything after book four is somehow tied to Harry, no matter how obscure or far removed. As a result, the story shrinks around Harry and the world of Magic becomes less interesting the more it focuses on Harry and his conflict with Voldemort.
Is Ruby is Mary Sue?
Based on my definition, no. She is just a badly written character. While all Mary Sues are badly written, not all badly written characters are Mary Sues.
Ozpin is more of the Mary Sue in RWBY. This is because most of RWBY's plot centers around Ozpin's mistakes and his relationships. Especially with Salem.
Therefore, Ruby Rose is not a Mary Sue.
It has to be whatever Penny was using as her weapon while she was a robot. Ironwood adopted it to be able to destroy Penny if she didn't surrender, I guess.
Nitpick November Day....????
I can’t remember its been so long but I actually thought of one last one and just in time too but why does James’s gun gun shoot green?
Now its no secret I’ve always hated this dumb thing, but….why does Due Process’s two guns combined make it fire….green? It looks like when he takes them out they shoot normally and normally the silver due process shoots green and the black one shoots purple (likely as it is filled with gravity dust bullets.
(I know these look bad but I am tired and don’t feel like trying to get a better screenshot okay?)
But what is the gungun doing that turns the shots green? Why Green? I don’t understand and it annoys me and I know (well HOPE I should say) CRWBY has some sort of reason for it but I don’t think the show explains this and it annoys exactly me so uhh I am complaining about it here.
Now maybe James changes his black due process’s bullets to a different kind of dust or regular but that still doesn’t explain why green. Even the flames left behind are green.
(I hate this volume and this scene and all it stands for but I am making a point)
Why green? What does it mean? Fire dust is red which would make sense for him to use but green dust is according to the wiki right now plant dust. So dust clearly isn’t affecting the color of the shots, so what is? Why not use fire dust for more destruction? Nothing about this stupid gun makes any sense I hate it so much.
Endeavor DID NOTHING WRONG!
Gotcha, didn't I?
Now that I have your attention, let's talk about the effect Hero Academies have on the concept of Superheroes. It's generally negative, and a deconstruction of the idea of Superheroes would inevitably result in a SuperHero school setting. Like what happened in My Hero Academia. Or RWBY, even.
Superheroes are naturally outlaws. A Superhero is able to act outside of societal norms and laws to achieve a result that normal people.
A school is an environment that is governed by a concentrated version of Governmental Authority outside the school.
A Superhero story involves a character acting outside the law, while a school story must enforce the law. Put both in one setting, and sooner or later either the school or the Superhero gets deconstructed and devolves into a mess of dramatics and insanity.