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Request of a fic

So... Lately I saw that there’s barely any salt fics of Marinette and there’s a ton of salt and bashing on the characters... Can someone write a salt fic or prompt about how the way Marinette treated Luka in their date forgetting about the date, sending photos of Adrien, calling him Adrien... the unhealthy amount of photos and future gift of Adrien... And I find it odd that Juleka let Marinette date her brother knowing full well about Marinette’s feelings for Adrien....  So... I dunno have Juleka keep a bit of distance from Marinette and Alix confronting Marinette about this whole obsession thing... Alix because she’s the only one who commented on how wrong Marinette’s actions are and that she’s not really that invested on setting her up with Adrien in the first place? I dunno.

So a fic about Juleka distancing from her friend and Alix conforting Marinette about the things she do are creepy.

Miraculous Ladybug is Bad

Alright! Since I’ve been told my grievances with the show are just whining and complaining, I will now make a whole post proving why this show is objectively bad.

Reason 1: Underage Ass

There is a lot of highlighted underage...parts on these characters. Many people would say this is just skintight outfits and that would be normal. Typically I would agree. HOWEVER, someone on the MLB team, Winny, was exposed about a year ago for drawing NSFW art of underage children and Thomas Astruc stood by this person. That is the cause for so much concern.

Let's look at some of the most egregious examples. If I looked at all the times Ladybug's ass was highlighted in horrifying detail, I would be here all day, so here are just a few OF MANY examples

Let’s add some highlighted breasts and stomach lines into the mix! Oh let’s not forget Lady Noire! Her outfit was so stupidly skintight you can see her belly button, crotch lines in many frames, and this one it’s kinda blurry but YOU CAN SEE NIPPLE OUTLINES!

And now Ladybug. You can see the highlighted details of her entire back and like... why is her ass like this? SHE IS 14.

Ladyfly didn’t exist for long and already she’s been subjected to that name and this nonsense.

Thought Chat Noir was safe? Well, you thought wrong. It still happens with him.

Reason 2: Whitewashing

I’d go more in detail on this one, but just look at Rena Rouge, Carapace, and Pegasus. It’s not hard to spot.

Marinette is also extremely whitewashed. Yes, I am aware biracial people don't all look the same and such, but Astruc has marketed this show and claimed on Twitter that this is about Asian representation. Still, Marinette shows no indication besides her Mom that she is Asian or even remotely interested. She doesn't know the language and the one time she had a chance to learn about her culture, she was taking advantage of her parents so she could go to Shanghai to stalk Adrien. This would be tolerable on its own, not all biracial people are the same, and others have their opinions, but again with how this was framed to be.

Reason 3: Marinette is the worst protagonist of all time

Did you know that according to French Law, Marinette has 186 years in prison? This number is because of her stalking! Her crimes include but aren't limited to stalking, unprovoked assault, trespassing, breaking and entering, vandalism, theft, the list goes on.

All of her movies are tied to her lust for Adrien. I went more in detail on this in another post, but her “love” is actually the literal definition of lust.

Here are some examples of these crimes in detail. Motive doesn't count, don't give me that, these are crimes no matter how you slice it, and no, being Ladybug is not going to excuse this.

In the Christmas Special, she beat the crap out of an old man because he was around Adrien. She says she thought he was akumatized, but given her track record with people who breathe around Adrien and how this man did not look akumatized at all, it’s hard to believe. And given her strength, she very well could have killed this man.

Stealing Adrien's phone in Copycat.

Breaking into Adrien's house in Chat Blanc and Bubbler and trying to break in during Oni-Chan.

Stalking in general, given how many photos she has on her shrine, is not all something you could get online. They seem largely taken during scenes. Also her entire schedule of Adrien’s that she has on a whole thing in her room AND in a little notebook she carries on her person at all times.

And in general, she is a terrible person in sabotaging any competition she has around Adrien. God forbid another woman breathes in Adrien's direction. And her treatment of Luka? She downright admitted to cheating on him, and while it wasn't literal, she still had her shrine up of Adrien and KNEW she still loved Adrien. Then in Crocoduel, she told Juleka to uninvite her brother to his own birthday party. I could go on and probably will later.

And her treatment of Chat Noir? I checked, and you can find the ENTIRE CYCLE OF ABUSE IN THE NEW YORK SPECIAL! People always say Chat is the abuser when everything he's done is a puddle compared to a lake.

And the main issue? SHE NEVER GETS ANY PENALTIES FOR THIS! She has committed crimes and, in general, been a terrible human being, but she never faces any repercussions! Nobody calls her out, she is never punished, and she gets an awesome reward most of the time! She teaches people that stalking and abuse are good!

Oh, let’s not forget Crocoduel was the very next episode after Chat Noir tried to kill himself. Ladybug brought on a much more powerful Tiger hero. That’s like the classic villain move of “I can always replace you.”

UPDATE: We have now had her stalking and abusive tendencies treated as a serious thing in-universe, proving it is not just exaggerated for “comedy” purposes. The writers did this and tried to justify that Marinette can do this because she has trauma, but goes out of its way to say nobody else can use their trauma to explain their behavior.

UPDATE 2: Gabriel won. We can’t say for certain how much Marinette is leaning into Gabriel’s lies and allowing Adrien to believe his abuser was a good person actually, but what can be said without any doubt is she didn’t tell him he was a sentimonster, which he has a right to know. Regardless of what you think of Marinette, there’s something to be said that a lot of the fandom sees Lila as more likely to tell Adrien the truth than Marinette is.

Not to mention that what tie does Marinette even have to the plot? Her plotline is "I want that famous dick!" but like...until season 4, what connected her to the Agreste plotline that couldn't be replaced with literally anyone else? Adrien is the one with ties to the plot and has the skillset to become the guardian, he is the one with more relation to Asian culture. Not much but certainly more than Marinette. Why is he not the main protagonist?

Reason 4: The plot or lack thereof

Nothing happened in the first two seasons of this show. If you combined seasons 1 and 2 and removed the blatant filler, nothing would change for the plot. And this ties into my point of "Why is Marinette the main character?" by this show's actual plot of the Agreste family is on the backburner for way too many episodes of Marinette foaming at the mouth over Adrien.

No, seriously, here are some charts of the screen time between Marinette and Adrien that I did with my former partner while timing this whole show, which let me tell you is a grueling task.

The show focuses so much on Marinette, when I am serious that her only storyline is not tied to the plot. The main plot of this show with the actual villain is put on the backburner for this little stalker.

Okay, if Marinette had a tie to the plot that wasn't her lust, and there was a real reason she had to be Ladybug and not literally anyone else, then go ahead and keep her. But she has no ties to the plot that matters and no reason to justify her existence since all she brings is a detriment.

Also, there is barely a timeline for this show! Season 1 was jumping all over the place but seemed to be over a year, but then in season 3, we're told EVERYTHING was over one year? Excuse me?! You're telling me the season that went from September to February in like 10 episodes was actually all in the span of 4 months?!

I will be updating this list, please know. I am not done.

Marinette Salt Prompt: Moving On

The last time Chat Noir tried to get Ladybug open up to him regarding the guardian stuff, she had pushed him away as always, with the glares of the other heroes leaving Chat Noir to nervous enough to continue. He never inquired about it again. In fact he never talked about anything anymore. Ladybug was upset he didn’t talk as much, but was satisfied that he stopped inquiring about it. It was the best for everyone.

2 years later, Ladybug and Cat Noir finally took down Hawkmoth. Marinette was happy that the battle was over. With Hawkmoth down, and all the miraculous recovered, she finally though it was time to reveal their identities to each other.

Calling Chat, they met up on the roof, though Chat noir didn’t seem all that excited when she suggested it, merely inquiring if she was ok with it (which she was). The suits finally fell, and Marinette was shocked to find that her partner was none other than her first love, Adrien Agreste.

But it was great! Chat had already said he loved her and Marinette loved him as Adrien. A bit weird to have a love square with only two people but its ok! Now they could finally be in love and….and…

Yet when, Marinette looked into Adrien’s face, she only saw recognition, but that was about it. They was no brightness in his eyes that she had. No joy, no mirth…just a disinterest, like he was waiting for it to be all over.

Marinette: So… you know who I am….(Nervous) W-What do you think.

Adrien: Well… its a shock I guess. I mean I never though you to be Ladybug but… I guess the magic is powerful huh?

Marinette: S-So…there’s going to be a party celebrating Hawkmoth’s defeat! I-I mean…I know your father was Hawkmoth and all that… but Me, Alya and Nino are all going to be there! D-Do you want to go to the party with me? A-As a date?

Adrien: ….No…no I don’t think I will

Marinette: Oh…I-I guess you are going with someone else then…

Adrien: I mean I’m not going to the party at all. I’m not going to be in Paris for much longer anyway….

Marinette: W-wait, what?!

Adrien: I was meaning to tell you…

Adrien told Marinette that over the course of 2 years, he ended up talking with a pen pal overseas down in America, who was a nice person and seemed interested in getting to know the real him. She had invited him over to study in America (Marinette had winced at the gender reveal), and given all that has happened here, he plans to go abroad to study. And the plane was leaving today…

Since he logically couldn’t bring the ring with him, Adrien gave a final tearful goodbye to Plagg before renouncing him, then placing the ring in her hand.

Marinette: B-But what about your friends here?!

Adrien: Marinette, Nino and I haven’t talked to each other because he spends more time with Alya. Speaking of Alya, I rarely talk to her as it is, and we haven’t talked to each other outside of costume as it is…

Marinette: B-But what about when we were heroes?

Adrien: We were partners then. Fath- Hawkmoth…is defeated. That partnership is over now. Job’s done.

Marinette: (shocked) H-How can you say that. D-did it all mean nothing to you?!

Adrien: It did, once… but that was years ago. You made it clear a long time ago that when you became the guardian, I was just another hero the amongst others that you called, the only difference being I was allowed to keep the ring between missions…when I tried to get close to you, to help you when you seemed stressed out about the guardianship, to help you with even minor stuff such as getting the miraculous to the right allies, you pushed me away, got angry at me, told me I was wrong for inquiring and that you would be better off with me not asking because it was “wasting your time”. I tried to push about it, but I eventually realised that you weren’t going to change your stance, and I wasn’t to waste my time on something that was pointless. Your words and your actions made it clear that I was at best just an ally, a person that was expected to come and help you to take down a villain, but then was expected to leave when all was said and done. True, I wanted to be genuine friends once, and perhaps…something more… but I realised the folly of it.

Marinette: But it was necessary to keep you away! Our secret identities…

Adrien: Should have remained a secret. But let me ask you this… what about the other secrets? The identities of the other heroes? The hidden stress you had from being a guardian? What about those ones? When was the last time you or I talked about something that wasn’t defeating a villain? That we just talked as genuine friends about our lives, as someone to lean on? We didn’t have to tell our identities to lean on eachother, but it seems you just chose to think that being friends in any sort of way would lead to something bad happening.

Marinette: I….I….

Adrien: It’s fine Marinette, you made your choice. But I made mine as well, and I decided to move on…plus with my father turning out to be my greatest enemy, there’s really nothing for me here. I need a fresh start.

Marinette: B-But….I love you!

There was a pause

Adrien: …I loved you too once. Ladybug I mean. And maybe even deep down I loved you as Marinette as well…but feelings change. I set those feeling free a long time ago… but its to late for me to think it was ever meant to be, even if they came back just now….goodbye Marinette.

Later on, as Marinette sat down at the celebratory party, Alya came by to check why Adrien was missing….and why her best friend was crying.

Obsessed

Warning: If u r a Maribug stan, get out. U could always disobey and h8 me ofc, but that's just wasting ur time.

Realistic, cannon (mostly), Su-han is the guardian, identity reveal, focuses on Ladybug's treatment of Chatnoir and toxic adrienette. ...

Marinette's P.O.V Marinette Dupain Cheng, a pretty, blue-eyed teenage girl, was slumped over her desk, snoring. A line of drool wet the pages of designs she had been working on. She hadn't meant to go to sleep, she never did- but when her computer turned on due to a sudden software update reminder, she had gotten sidetracked.

How could she not, when she saw those striking green eyes of her future husband, her perfect, handsome Adrien, on her desktop wallpaper? She'd sat there with her mouth open, drooling, as she got lost in his eternal glory, till she fell asleep.

...

"Aah! Tikki! This can't be happening! How could I fall ASLEEP!? OH NO, I'm half an hour late for school Tikki!" Tikki tried to get a word in edgewise but the girl rambled on, "Adrien's gonna know how much of an imperfect clutz I am and he'll hate me for the rest of his LIFE and we'll never go out on a date or marry in front of the Eiffel tower or have 3 kids and a hamster named-"

"MARINETTE!" Marinette fumed, why did she never get to say that she was going to name her hamster 'Goldybuns'? (Sry abt the cringy name btw) Goldy for Adrien's hair and 'buns' because Adrien's a cinnamon roll/bun, just like Goldybuns. Her attention slowly flowed back to Tikki.

"I know you're stressed out right now, but now is not the best time for a panic attack. I suggest you start getting ready, Marinette. The sooner the better."

Marinette sighed and smiled at her kwami. "You're right, Tikki."

...

Plagg's P.O.V

Plagg wasn't even eating as he sat in Adrien's bag. He was looking with hatred at the huge slices of Camembert in front of him as if it had been the one who wronged him when a hand reached in. It fumbled around the bag before finding his head. The fingers of the hand scratched him under his ears and he purred to show Adrien that he wasn't having a silent tantrum about how Ladybug had let Chat completely take the blame for renouncing his miraculous yesterday (causing him to change into Cat Walker to impress her). He was, he just didn't want Adrien to know. The poor boy had enough to worry about.

The hand got out of the bag as he heard Ms.Bustier say "Turn to lesson 5 of your history textbooks, class, and underline all the facts the story mentions about Joan of Arc's childhood." Deciding he couldn't listen to a lesson about a previous Ladybug miraculous holder (he was feeling pretty sore about that particular miraculous right now anyways), Plagg phased through the floor, keeping well out of sight, before reappearing in Marinette's purse. Tikki, as expected, began to panic, but Plagg ignored that as he pointed at him, Tikki, and the floor. He floated down, knowing Tikki would follow, just to keep him out of trouble. Not because she wants to listen. Not because she thinks what I've got to say is important, he thought bitterly as he entered Ms.Mendeleiev's class.

Tikki turned up two seconds later. "What is it, Plagg? You know you shouldn't be here, or talk to me at school! Remember what happened last time?" Plagg blinked twice. "With Kwamibuster! My holder had to make up a super complicated plan to convince Chatnoir that she wasn't-!" Bubbles escaped her mouth.

"For all the brain's she's got, you'd think she wouldn't be fooled by a simple 'elementary school' you know." He mumbled. He'd never admit it to Adrien, but he was very proud of the simple but successful plan his owner had come up with that day.

Plagg knew Tikki was reddening with anger, even though he couldn't see it under all that redness. "At least my holder doesn't throw a fit and give up her miraculous everytime Chat noir keeps something from her!"

"Pfft! You know that's just because he never keeps anything from her that's important for them to work together, and even if he does she doesn't notice cause she doesn't care!"

"Says the one who yelled at my holder just because she made a few little mistakes when she's under so much pressure!"

"I have a lot of ways to describe her so called 'mistakes', but 'few' and 'little' aren't two of them, Sugarcube!" He hissed. "And just so you know, my holder's under as much pressure as she is, he's just better at hiding it cause he's been dealing with that heavy pressure since before he even met me! Everything's not about you and your holder, Tikki!!!" Tikki floated back a few inches, he was obviously doing something scary, but he didn't care. "JUST CAUSE YOU ONLY KNOW YOU'RE OWN HOLDER'S STORY DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN MAKE CONCLUSIONS ABOUT MINE!!!" He shrieked.

Adrien's P.O.V

The whole class was frozen in shock. They'd been hearing a commotion from Ms.Mendeleiev's class for a while but had chalked it up to a random student quarrel. Soon, however, it turned too loud to ignore. Ms. Bustier seemed to be wondering if she should go and see who it was or ignore it and tell the studnets to continue their Joan of Arc essay.

"At least my holder doesn't throw a fit and give up her miraculous everytime Chat noir keeps something from her!"

Holder? Miraculous? TIKKI!? Adrien's jaw fell open as he reached around inside his bag. Plagg wasn't there. No. No. No way. Not again! His lady would surely take his miraculous after this. And they were fighting about him and Ladybug!? Guess Plagg was more pissed off than he thought.

"You know that's just because he never keeps anything from her that's important for them to work together, and even if he does she doesn't notice cause she doesn't care!"

Adrien felt conflicted as he zoned out. Plagg should NOT be insulting his lady. He'd have to talk to him about it, but on the other hand, it was very sweet how he tried to defend him. Suddenly there was a loud bang and the floor shook a little. Marinette, who'd been on the edge of her seat, tumbled onto the floor, along with her books and phone.

"I should go check what the interference is, students," Ms. Bustier informed the class before placing the History book down and leaving.

The class looked at each other, and as one, got up and ran out of the class after Ms. Bustier, Adrien in the lead, followed closely by Marinette. Adrien went because he knew it was Plagg, but it was clear that the others were going because Ms. Bustier had gone, and they had enough faith in their teacher to know that she wouldn't run towards akuma dangers. He saw Marinette from the corner of his eye, and was surprised to see that she had the same look on her face that he probably had too. Just a bit more anger and a little less fear.

He couldn't wonder about it because at that moment, they met Ms. Bustier, who was still calmly walking, not running like them. She looked at her students, confused, before sighing and opening the door.

Oh man.

Tables were upturned, science equipment spilled over the floor, walls splattered with dirt and chemicals. The posters on the walls were blakened and burned, the books in the shelves had fallen off. He gulped. His lady would explode. Not just because of the destruction and his kwami threatening her kwami, but also because he'd let Plagg be seen by a whole class.

Plagg was floating in the middle of the destruction, black and green orbs floating around him, he turned around, eyes widening as they met Adrien's. The orbs faded. Tikki was clearly afraid and was looking at his classmates and then back at Plagg. It didn't take a genius to figure out that the two creatures were related to Paris' heores.

He noticed that he'd suddenly been pushed to the back of the group by his classmates who were eager ot get a look. He backed away, it was too much. He'd failed again. He'd dissapointed his lady.

...

Plagg's P.O.V

"I'm sorry, kitten," he whispered. "I didn't mean to."

"I t-told you not to get in trouble again." It was obviously supposed to be a scolding, but the tremble in his voice made it sound more like a whimper. It hurt. Plagg's powers got out of hand often. He'd controlled it unbelievably well around Adrien, but Ladybug was a new Guardian, she wouldn't know that. So Adrien would still be blamed for it. Like every other time.

He'd tried to talk some sense into Tikki, but as always, it didn't work (he should've known), and he'd regretted it the moment he saw Adrien backing away, eyes wide, obviously having an internal panic attack.

"I'm sorry, kitten. I didn't mean to," he whispered again.

"I know, Plagg." The golden haired boy extended his hand and Plagg sat on it. "I'm still going to scold you about insulting Ladybug thought. Later." He brought him close to his cheek and Plagg nuzzled him, purring. They passed a few more minutes in silence before Adrien got up from the boys' bathroom floor. "I should get back before Lunch ends cause-"

"Cause you need some food to deal with what you're gonna have to go through with Ladybug," Plagg interrupted, knowing full well that it wasn't what Adrien was going to say. "I agree. Food is the world's best healer."

Adrien chuckled as he headed out.

...

Tikki's P.O.V

"That lousy cat! Why can't he just control his kwami!? Everyone will know about you guys now! All because of him and his kwami!-"

"I was there too Marinette. It's not just his fault," Tikki interrupted meekly, but Marinette ignored her. Sure Tikki didn't approve of Plagg's recent behaviour much, but she didn't want him getting the whole blame.

"I can't believe it. I'll bet you anything he'll try to laugh it off when I call him out like he always does-"

"I don't recall that ever happening, Marinette-"

"And Adrien was there too! He must've thought Ladybug was so stupid that she couldn't even keep Chat noir under her control!"

Her control? "Chat isn't really your sidekick, Marinette-"

"Well, he can hate Ladybug but not Marinette. I won't let that happen!" She pulled out his schedule. "A-ha! Right now he has his fencing lesson, but in half an hour he'll be going for a photoshoot at the Seine. That should last till 7pm because it's an evening shoot. Then he'll be going home. If I manage to catch him right after his fencing lesson it should turn out all right."

Marinette dug into the chest full of Adrien's presents and grabbed the box wrapped in a red paper with a black bow on top. "This is the present I prepared for him in case he starts to hate Ladybug!" She clarified for Tikki.

Tikki winced. "I'm pretty sure he doesn't hate Ladybug, Marinette. Besides, Ladybug- uh, I mean you, have saved Paris hundreds of times! This is just one tiny mess up!"

"Just in case, Tikki. Now come on!"

Marinette's P.O.V

Tikki dove into Marinette's purse as she ran out of her house, present tucked under her arm. She neared the school in less than two minutes, thanks to her house being so close, and sat down on the front steps. She should be able to see Adrien coming out from here. Now, time to practise what she was going to say.

'Hey Adrien, I noticed that you seemed upset after the whole kwami-' uh, no. Adrien doesn't know about kwamis. 'I noticed that you seemed upset after the whole floating creature fiasco.' Yes, that should work. 'And I was worried that you might hate Ladybug because she couldn't stop that happening. So I wanted to give you this, to remind you that Ladybug's a great super heroine and that it's totally not her fault if her partner messes things up all the time.' She cringed. No, that wouldn't work. Adrien seemed to like Chat noir, and besides, it seemed like she was accusing him of hating Ladybug unjustly, when it was perfectly reasonable for him to hate her because she was imperfect and unworthy of his greatness.

'Hi Adrien, don't you think Ladybug's amazing? I'm sure she's feeling horrible about that floating creature fiasco earlier, don't you? Anyways, I wanted to give this to you because you totally deserve it. And...Adrien... I love you...' That should work.

Adrien's P.O.V

Adrien gulped down a bottle of water before slinging his bag over his shoulder and heading out. He was actually looking forward to the Seine photoshoot. The title was 'Floating in the sunset', so he'll be sitting on a boat in the river Seine for a few hours. That part was pretty boring, but the amazing thing was that a ginger tabby cat was going to be part of some shots too! He'd met him yesterday and almost died from all that cuteness. He really wanted to keep him. Too bad his father was allergic to cats. And dogs. And hamsters and guniea pigs and mice and rabbits and birds and even lizards and turtles and fish. The only thing he didn't seem allergic to were insects.

He was brought out of his thoughts when he noticed Marinette sitting on the stairs, mumbling furiously to herself.

"Hey, Marinette! What are you doing here?" His car pulled up in front of the school as Marinette jumped up to face him, her arms flailing.

"A-a-adriennn! I'm sorry I didn't kiss you- I mean see you there!" She giggled nervously as Adrien adjusted his face into a worried-for-your-sanity-in-the-politest-way expression. Why did she never manage to talk to him? It wasn't as if he looked threatening or anything. Nino, Chloe, Alix, and Alya have even said outright that he looked like an innocent cinnamon roll.

"Don't you think Ladybug is amazing?"

He was surprised she'd managed a whole sentence without stammering, so he gratefully answered, "Yeah, she's wonderful! And so brave and confident! Amazing, yeah." He rubbed the back of his neck with a dreamy look in his eyes.

"I'm sure she's feeling horrible about letting Chat noir ruin everything-" Wait what?

"Uh-ahh I mean, about that kwami- uh- floating cr-creature fiasco this morning- uh I mean afternoon- in class!" Marinette knows about kwamis? Oh right- she was multimouse. "Aanyways, I wanted to bite- ahhh- I mean kiss- I mean give-"

His car honked three times, which was gorilla's way of saying that his father would be pissed if he didn't get in now. "I'm so sorry ,Marinette but I should get going. Maybe tomorrow?" he gave her one of his magazine cover smiles as he waved goodbye and ran down the steps. Nino would notice that was a fake smile immediately, but Marinette just blushed and waved her hand too.

"Yeah, I'll touch- uh, see you tomorrow! B-b-bye, Adrien..."

"Bye!"

Marinette's P.O.V

"Please don't tell me I messed up again, Tikki," Marinette groaned.

"You'll get there eventually Marinette. Besides, you did manage to ask him to walk home with you once. After you made a magical charm for Mr.Pigeon, remember?"

"Oh don't remind me, Tikki. Kagami totally blew up and called me a stalker because I kept his schedule memorised and carried a bag with things I might need when I bump into him. Me? A stalker? As if! Occasionally going through his trash and keeping 1007 photos of him and making presents and food for him and following him to protect him from other girls does NOT make me a stalker! It's not my fault she can't admit that me and him are made for each other!" She giggled dreamily.

"Uh..."

"And besides, Tikki," Marinette slumped over, getting over her hate speech, "I only managed to ask him out once! I've been trying ever since before my 14th birthday! I'm 16 in two months! That means I've been trying for two years and only managed to ask him out once! I'm hopeless, Tikki!"

She expected Tikki to comfort her but Tikki mumbled, "Maybe you should start by not putting him on such a high pedestal? It should make talking to him easier."

Marinette gasped. "A pedestal? Tikki it's not my fault he's handsome, kind, generous, beautiful, thoughtful, sweet, athletic, understanding, amazing, skilled, sympathetic, sporty, talented, smart, strong, gorgeous, calm, and just perfect all at the same time!"

"But he's human, Marinette! He can't be perfect! He has to have some flaw that you don't know of."

"Adrien? Flawed? Oh puh-lease, Tikki. C'mon we need to follow him to his Seine river photoshoot. I can find a time to give it to him then."

Marinette ran towarda the River Seine, present tucked next to her. After ten minutes she reached the Seine, clutching a stitch at her side.

"Oh no, Tikki, the boat's going to leave!"

"Relax, Marinette! You can talk to him after he's done."

Marinette sighed defeatedly, "Just this once."

...

Two hours later, Marinette watched as Adrien got out of the boat, a ginger tabby cat in his hands. He passed by her (she ducked so he couldn't see her. It wasn't the right time yet) and for a second Marinette was sure they were both purring. No, scratch that. It sounded like three voices were purring. What?

She wasn't left to ponder however, as Adrien came back, kissing and cooing at the cat (Marinette had a sudden urge to turn into a cat right then). He handed the cat over reluctantly to the photographer and then checked his phone as it beeped.

"My driver wants me to meet him at the Bistro de la Gare. I should get going. Bye!" Adrien waved at his photographer before kissing the cat again and going away. Marinette promptly followed.

They were halfway to the Bistro de la Gare (Marinette still hadn't plucked up the courage to talk to him) when an akuma lert sounded. Marinette groaned before ducking into a nearby alley.

"Why now? Argh!"

Adrien's P.O.V

Adrien looked around hurriedly. It didn't really matter if he didn't transform, Ladybug wouldn't care. Maybe she wouldn't even notice, but then he remembered what had happened at school that morning. Oh man. Plagg seemed to read his mind.

"C'mon, kid. It'll happen anyways. Get it over with quickly so we can go home and eat Camembert in peace!"

Adrien sighed. Turning around, he saw an alley a few meters back. He promptly ran towards it.

He almost yelled 'Plagg, claws out!' when he noticed Marinette with her back to him. Huh? How did she get here? He wondered if he should let her know he was here and that she should probably go somewhere safer or find somewhere else to transform. He didn't like hiding here while looking at her. It felt too much like spying, but he couldn't help it when a red blob floated up in front of Marinette. Tikki?

"I can put it off for a few more minutes, Tikki! Just till I give the present to Adrien! Then I'll go, I promise! The akuma can wait for a few more minutes without Ladybug! I deserve to go after the boy I love like any other teenage girl!"

"Marinette! You're willing to risk the life of civillians to follow Adrien?" Adrien heard Tikki take a deep breath (it was surprisingly loud, considering her size). "I'm sorry, Marinette- but I think I agree on Kagami on this one. You're too obsessed with him for your own good, and his own good too! Think about "Operation Sad Adrien" or whatever, you were happy when you saw him crying in the park! You gave him a present, not to make him happy, but to show that you're definetely girlfriend material and 'hey, you should totally date me cause I'm so caring'!" Adrien had never heard Tikki talk like this before. "Do you think he'd be happy to know that someone keeps his entire schedule without telling him? Or that someone follows him secretly?"

"It's to protect him from other girls, Tikki!"

"He doesn't need protectin, Marinette! He isn't your property! He doesn't need protecting from Lila because he already knows she's a liar! He doesn't need you to team up with Chloe to almost publicily humiliate Kagami just because they were talking with each other at a party! This isn't healthy, Marinette!"

Marinette groaned. "I already told you, Tikki. Just because I keep 1007 photos of him, go through his trash now and then, and make food and gifts for him till his 50th birthday doesn't make me an obsessed stalker!"

"But it DOES, Marinette! Can't you see-"

"Tikki, spots on!"

Ladybug replaced Marinette and pinched the bridge of her nose "I should've done that earlier," she moaned before swinging her yo-yo and dissapearing, leaving an unnoticed Adrien with his jaw hanging open.

Plagg floated out of his shirt and waved two tiny paws in front of his face, "On second thoughts, let's just head home."

Good idea, Adrien wanted to say, but no sound escaped his mouth. His lady is Marinette? Marinette has a huge crush on him? Marinette stalks him? Adrien rubbed the back of his neck nervously. He was dissapointed- not because Marinette was Ladybug, he would've been delighted about that, usually- but the fact that his lady rejected him, all the while obsessing over his civilian identity was, to be fair, kinda gross.

And how was he going to tell Ladybug that he knew her secret identity?

"Hey, kid! Earth to Adrien. Let's go home. Now! I have a plan, kit!"

As Plagg expected, Adrien awoke with a start. "You do?"

"Totally. Let's just go to my camem- uh, I mean home, first."

Adrien raised an eyebrow suspiciously, "You sure you got a plan, Plagg?"

"Since when have I lied to you, Adrien?"

"Uh, let me think, on my third akuma fight when you literally said you were sleeping? And yesterday when you said you saw Ladybug outside so you could distract me and steal my cheese?"

"Oh c'mon, don't be so pouty. Now let's go!"

Adrien sighed and pocketed Plagg as magical ladybug's flew through the air.

...

"It's perfect, Adrien!" Plagg exclaimed, waving around his tiny paws. "Sure he won't open up to Chat noir but he will to her crush! You can talk to her about everything!"

"I doubt she'll talk about her crush on Adrien with Adrien, Plagg."

"But she doesn't have to tell you that her crush is Adrien!"

Adrien held up his hand, motioning Plagg to stop. "Plagg, did you know about this? This- obsession?"

Plagg giggled nervously. "Well I knew about her crush, and I admit, I thought it was hilarious, but I didn't know it was this, you know, toxic."

Adrien sighed and slumped onto his couch. "Let's get this conversation over with. Plagg, claws out!"

Chat Noir's P.O.V

Chat noir checked his baton. Ladybug was on the Eiffel tower. Purrfect. He jumped out of his window and ran over the beautiful Parisian rooftops. It was night time now, the time when, in his opinion, Paris looked the best.

A cool breeze ruffled his hair as he ran past windows, behind which were happy families playing games, watching TV, or just talking around a dinner table. He has everything these people could wish for- money, fame, games and books of all sorts, and yet he didn't have the one thing all of them did have, love. He thought he found love in his lady, but she'd just been a fan girl, rejecting the real him. Sure Chat noir wasn't 100% the real him, but he liked being that side of him better. It felt more real, somehow.

He neared the Eiffel tower and looked up. Sure enough, two black and red feet were swinging over the edge casually. Chat climbed the tower from the back, so that she wouldn't see him, and detransformed behind a pillar. He motioned for Plagg to hide before quietly walking towards his lady.

Plagg's P.O.V

Plagg could almost hear how tensed Adrien was as he fidgeted a few meters behind Ladybug.

"Oh-hey, Ladybug," he said in an oddly high pitched voice. "Fancy seeing you here! Are you, um, waiting for someone?"

Ladybug turned around, eyes wide, before visibly relaxing, though the redness in her cheeks remained.

"Oh, hey! A-adrien Agreste, right? I mean obviously, I've even saved you a couple of times. That was a dumb thing to ask." She gave a slight giggle.

Plagg grabbed some camembert and prepared for a long wait. It'd take a long time for her to warm up to him.

"Mind if I sit?"

Yes! That was sooner than expected, though Plagg didn't see how Adrien could sit on a railing.

"Oh yeah sure! How did you get here, by the way? I thought the tower was closed now? And it's so late!" She suddenly looked down at her yoyo. "Half past 1am. What are you doing out here by yourself at this time of night?"

"I just, um, wanted to- clear my head a little- you know. And, not all of us has the priviledge of being a superhero- I mean, not that I think it's not exhausting or stressful or anything, but, well, you know." He rubbed the back of his neck. "As for the first question, well let's just say being famous has its advantages." He cautiously leaned on the railing next to Ladybug.

Ladybug laughed, "Guess it does."

Plagg heard Adrien take a deep breath, preparing to dive right in, and he panicked. It was too soon! But Plagg shouldn't have worried. Adrien had lots of experience talking with strangers and getting them to do what he wants.

"I noticed you aren't with Chat noir. He didn't show up to today's fight either, right? Did you two have a- a disagreement or something? I don't mean to pry!" He held up her hands as if proving his innocence, "I was just wondering. It's just that I haven't seen you two hanging out lately. You don't have to tell me if you don't want to! I'm just a random civilian so I totally get it if you don't trust me enough to tell me about your private affairs." And then he gave her his downcast puppy eyes.

"Oh no, it's fine! Of course I can tell you, Adrien."

Damn he could play her like a barbie doll.

"It's just that I don't want to, you know, encourage his feelings. He should be able to get over me by himself, but he can't so I thought I'd just give a little push."

"What if he doesn't and it just ends up hurting him?"

She sighed. "Well, you can't really blame me. I told him to back off because i love another boy-" she paused and looked at him before saying "But he keeps chasing me so."

"Maybe he's wondering what that boy has that he doesn't?"

Ladybug looked at him weirdly.

"I'm not saying what he does is right, but I mean, he does make you laugh a lot, and he's made it clear that he adores you, not to mention literally risking his life more than once for you. Can't go further than that." He shrugged non chalantly.

"That doesn't make me obliged to love him!" Plagg was totally surprised she was actually arguing with her worshipped god. Guess she doesn't like being encouraged to love someone else by her celebrity crush.

"Sure it doesn't," Adrien answered smoothly. "I was just pointing out why he deserves you."

"Look he's done other things, ok? Things you don't know about."

"Tell me then. You know asking and listening are the best mindsets for learning."

She was obviously irritated now. Good. More likely she'll yell all her thoughts out.

"For starters he's always pouting about why we can't reveal our secret identities when he knows perfectly well that it's not safe."

Adrien took a deep breath. "Well, before Rocketear, Nino told me about him being Carapace and Alya being Rena Rouge. They knew each others' identities and you were fine with it, apparently," he blurted in a rush.

Ladybug's jaw fell open, but she closed it again. Plagg couldn't help thinking that she looked a bit like a fish.

"Wha- well, that's not all! He keeps making puns in the middle of akuma fights with super bad timing."

"Maybe it's to get you less stressed?"

"But it doesn't work! It just gets me mad at him instead!"

"Well that's still a win, right? It destracts you from the intimidatingness of the villian. I think I'd be pretty glad if I had a partner who takes my mind off all the end-of-the-world-if-I-lose stress."

She actually glared at him. Oh this was going to be spicy.

...

Adrien's P.O.V

Adrien rolled over on his bed groaning. "I shouldn't have done that, Plagg! She'll make me giveback my miraculous next time I see her!"

It was one hour later, and Adrien had just come home after a heated argument, which had ended with Chat noir revealing his identity and the fact that he knew she was Marinette. They'd argued some more about why it was (or wasn't, in Marinette's case) unhealthy for her to obsess over him and how he shouldn't be kept out of everything when they were supposed to be equals on the battle field.

"That won't happen, don't worry. I'm feline like you'll get a visit later on that'll fix everything." Plagg grinned at him, happy as cheese.

Adrien raised an eyebrow suspiciously.

"But he won't visit you in your room, so transform and get out already!"

"But what if Lady-"

"If Ladytrash barges in? Don't worry about it. She won't. Now get out!"

Adrien sighed, wondering what this outburst was about. Plagg was almost always in his sight. He even insists on following him into the bathroom to torture him with his stinky cheese. In the moments when he can't see him, he always feels him, tucked deep in his shirt, so it was a surprise to learn that he'd been communicating with someone from the outside world. Besides, who else even knew he existed?

"Are you gonna sit there frowning at me for the next ten minutes or are you getting out already?"

Adrien blew a raspberry- and got an enthusiastic reply from Plagg- before yelling, "Plagg, claws out!"

...

He landed on a rooftop close to his house, but far away from Stalkernette's (as Plagg had nicknamed her) house and the Eiffel tower, then he sat cross legged, and waited.

He felt dumb, to say the least, sitting there waiting for he didn't know what, so he gladly pulled up his baton phone when it pinged.

"Don't be bemused! It's just the news!" Nadja Chamack's voice echoed through the rooftops. He lowered the volume in case someone heard. "I'm Nadja Chamack reporting live from the news studio! Paris' two beloved heroes have been seen having a heated argument on top of the Eiffel Tower. Though the reason behind this unexpected dispute remains in the shadows, the citizens of Paris are troubled by the fact that they did not leave the tower together. Chat noir left the scene first, soon followed by Ladybug who, sadly, left in the opposite direction. Is this the end of Paris' young superhero duo? Will Paris fall for its doom at Shadowmoth's hands? Will-"

Chat scoffed and placed the baton on his belt. What a load of rubbish.

"I was listening," a voice told him from behind.

Chat turned around, instantly on defensive mode, before seeing that it was Su-Han.

"You," he acknowledged bitterly, before turning back. "If you're here for my miraculous, forget it." He wondered briefly what he choice he had, if Su-Han actually did demand the miraculous.

"Ladybug was told to resign her position as Guardian of the Miraculous and wielder of the Ladybug miraculous." Wait what?

"Huh?"

"I heard how you have been made to miss fights for some reason, and how she no longer treats you as an equal. This is not tolerable. If it continues it might be fatal. The miraculous of the Black cat and the Ladybug's should remain equal. One cannot exist without the other."

"Wait, so you'll find another Ladybug?"

The old guardian shook his head. "No. You will hand over your miraculous as well. No miraculous will be activated. Over time, Shadowmoth will understand that, so he will stop akumatizations as they are pointless."

"Wait, but, but, Plagg?"

"Plagg has- communicated- with me, and he made it very clear that he will not leave you. Therefore, I have made the dangerous decision to let him stay in your house, though I will have the ring in my possesion. It is very risky, therefore I warn you. One mistake, and Plagg dissapears."

"Yes, sir," he breathed, glad that he won't be seperated from his long term friend, but he still had another problem. "And, about the damage-"

"I will transform when an akuma arrives and call for a lucky charm. When Shadowmoth eventually tires, he will call of the villian, and I will do the Miraculous Ladybug, clearing all the debris."

Chat blinked.

"You know how the miraculous works, surely? If I call a lucky charm with the purpose of defeating a villian, it will clear the damage the villian caused, even if I don't use it. You've witnessed it before, no doubt?"

"Yeah...in New York, and a few other times..."

"Then everything is clear, and we may part ways."

Adrien called of his detransformation and renounced Plagg, who dissapeared and reappeared after the miraculous was placed in the miracle box. He hid in Adrien's shirt and he said goodbye to Su-Han.

A barely recognizable smile, slipped over the guardian's features- it would've gone unnoticed had Adrien not grown up with a very expressionless father.

"You were a great Chat noir, Adrien. Perhaps I will return the ring soon. After Shadowmoth's fall." Then he dissapeared.

...

Author's note: I am currently going through puberty+ recovering from a spinal surgery so I was feeling pretty down. A.k.a why I was going through a serious Maribug hate period. I'm over it now so you probably won't see me updating any more Marinette salt. I'm sorry if the end felt rushed or lane, but I was so out of it and just wanted to get it out of the way. If you like this please ❤, follow, and reblog. Thanks! Have a nice day!

Marinette Salt Prompt: A surprisingly realistic outcome for breaking into a house

Despite what people may think, Firemen (while they do focus on combating fires) are people who do more than just combating fires. They often help with emergencies as a whole, helping to comfort victims who have undergone or are threatened with injury, or assisting people involved in domestic, industrial and transport incidents, including road accidents.

Naturally, when one random Parisian firemen saw a girl attempting to break into a house of a very wealthy and rich person, they would do the right thing and stop it.

After stopping Marinette from breaking into the Agreste household, the fireman quickly called the police to detain the girl and contact her parents, hoping that the issue could be resolved. Unfortunately for the bluenette (who couldn’t stop Adrien from being forced to spend time with the evil Lila!), the only officer close by was Roger Raincomprix, who was taking his daughter back home at the time. Although the appearance of Oni-Chan allowed Marinette to slip away and transform, it didn’t stop Roger from calling her parents the next day and explaining what had happened.

It also didn’t stop Sabrina from telling Chloe, who was more than happy to tell anyone who listened. By the start of the next morning, most people in the school knew what had happened with Marinette. Not only that, but Adrien and Gabriel learned about it as well.

For Gabriel, the answer was more than obvious: he placed a restraining order on Marinette from being able to be anywhere near his son. While she could still be allowed to go to school, Adrien would be moved to a different classroom to continue his education. Naturally of course, Gabriel would also ensure that the bluenette would NOT have her work (such as the derby hat) featured anymore on the Gabriel brand, and with a few public leaks about the incident, ensured that the bluenette would effectively be BLACKLISTED from pursuing any career in clothing design.

For Adrien, the reaction was more mixed, at least at first. He understood to some extent why Marinette would try and get in (since Lila did something that really made him uncomfortable), but it still was wrong of her to do such a thing. Not to mention that he ended up having to move away from his homeroom just to be allowed to study at school, effectively reducing the time he spent with his friends. Still though he was mixed about his feelings for Marinette…at least until Alix mentioned how obsessed Marinette was with Adrien. 

After inquiring with Alix about what she meant, and confronting a somewhat shocked Alya, Adrien quickly learned about Marinette’s crush on him along with her obsession with the blonde. Putting the pieces together (even if it wasn’t fully true or false), Adrien came to an immediate realisation, and lost all interest in seeing Marinette again, or acknowledging her as a friend. After all, this is not the first obsessive stalker he has met or known about, but it hurt knowing that one was someone he once considered a friend.

For Marinette, the situation quickly became worse. Most of her former friends immediately shunned her upon realising of what she had done (even if it had been due to Lila being a liar), and while Nino and Alya did try to be somewhat caring (even if they were still angry at her), learning about the restrainment and learning that Adrien no longer considered her a friend broke her hard. 

She had quickly ran home, only to learn that it wasn’t good there either. Tom and Sabine had been told what had happened the other day and immediately grounded the bluenette, along with organising an appointment for her to go see a therapist, given that she attempted to break the law all because of a boy.

Tikki was sad about what happened to her chosen, but acknowledged that what she did was wrong and that the current events were the only logical outcome. While she wouldn’t leave Marinette, it was obvious the latter needed more discipline, but with Fu training her to be the guardian, perhaps she could learn that skill. Not that she would have much else to do in the future, given that Marinette had broke into tears upon realising her dreams as a fashion designer were over.

A few days later, Ladybug would go on patrol with Chat Noir. Seeing that the latter was down, she asked him what was wrong. While Chat Noir did not tell her who he was, Ladybug was quickly able to figure out who Chat was as the latter told her the story about how a “creepy stalker he once considered a friend” attempted to break into his house.

While outwardly she offered him comfort, inside Marinette could only quake and cry at the ironic realisation: the boy she loved was the same hero she turned away advances from, and now that boy would hate her forever.

And so while life would continue on and the heroes would end up saving Paris, that week ended the childhood dreams of Marinette Dupain Cheng. Her dreams being a fashion designer with 3 kids and a hamster with her beloved all went up in smoke.

 All because she forgot that her actions had consequences.

Its important to know a toxic sign in your relationship. Its kinda why i dont ship the love Square romantically anymore

Its literally been a month since I saw this and I'm still pissed about it

"Adrien haters stop projecting your trauma onto the characters challenge"

Have you ever considered the reason people project their trauma onto these characters is because they see abusive patterns in them?

I've been stalked and sexually harassed.

Marinette's pulldown schedule? Stalking. Its played off for jokes but that still doesn't make it ok. Don't normalize it.

And I'm sick of people acting like Adrien's abuse or his "love" for LB makes his treatment of her magically ok.

Abusers aren't mean 100% of the time. They put on a nice face around other people and they do nice things for their victims, both to lure them in and manipulate them. "I can't be an abuser, an abuser wouldn't do XYZ nice thing for you!!"

Stop acting like this is some game where a nice action excuses or out-does a cruel one.

Stop normalizing abuse.

Listen to abuse victims when they tell you they see a pattern.

Clowns on this post are getting blocked, consider yourself warned.

imagine a female Percy x miraculous crossover.

Like just imagine.

Marinette getting jealous of Percy because she thinks that she’s trying to steal Adrien from her but in reality, Percy has a boyfriend (maybe Roy Harper from DC?) and Adrien just likes the fact that Percy treats him normally.

But Marinette doesn’t know that so she tries to sabatoge Percy the way she tried to sabatoge Lila and Kagami. (It’s canon so you guys shouldn’t be mad with the small amount of salt I’m pouring towards Marinette. She kinda deserves it).

It backfires, obviously. And Marinette finally gets consequences for her actions. Her friends finally realize that they’ve been encouraging Marinette with her obsession towards Adrien and they vow to be better.

There won’t be a lot of salt. Only for Marinette because there’s barely any salt fics about her and she’s by far one of the most problematic characters in the show.

Should I write it? Cause I’ve been wanting to write some good Marinette bashing fanfic for a while. Even if it’s just a little. Not to mention that it involves my favorite fandom, which is Percy Jackson!! And one of my favorite tropes, which is a genderbent character.

1. she took his phone to delete a message and it was shown as bad and knowing his schedule for the next three years is impossible so it’s obviously exaggerated. In that scene she wanted to protect him against lila not stalk him. The show is exaggerated and humor is subjective. Also she had growth and development.

2. Kagami and her weren’t friends and kagami wasn’t exactly nice to her either. Also Mari did apologize and they became friends and values her friendship with her. Why would she ignore lila if it bothers her? Using and lying to her crush? Mari is 14 and one of the things is she acts by emotions. She got called out and lila deserves that. Don’t lie! simple!

3. Marinette didn’t cause riposte at all. Kagami was a sore loser and that is that. Adrien won and she got mad. Marinette did cause gamer she competed like everyone else and won. Honestly the intentions of these DO matter. Most of these was bc it was simply a misunderstanding, or there being sad they lost. It isn’t fair to count these.

4. This is normal. People do these things to wax statues all the time. They yell, they touch it and say werid stuff to it. The hair is what she thought was wax. People do that to poasters too. The thing that made it creepy was that it was adrien.

5. no she dosen’t have problems nor is she problematic.

Reasons why Marinette I hate Marinette

Marinette is a fan-favorite among many, so I’m going to tell the fandom why I hate her. curse words censored for the young people of the fan base

1. She is, very clearly, a stalker.  I’m tired of people just not getting that. She has willingly stolen Adrien’s phone, knows his schedule for the next three years, used trash bins to watch him in his own home, and gets overly offended when anther girls comes to close to him. It’s ridiculous to see people defending her with “She’s a teenager!” or “She just loves him a lot!” because that is stupid reasoning. You can’t defend her stalker behavior towards Adrien by saying shes only a teen, because name one teenager in real life that you’ve seen whose done this. And before someone says that it’s just a tv show so everything is just exaggerated and her behavior is supposed to be played off for laughs, which would be fine, if what she does is funny. Watching someone in their own home because someone else is with them isn’t funny. Kissing something that looks to be statue of your crush is creepy. Using your super-hero identity to humiliate a girl who shows interest in your crush is awful, even if that girl is hated by most of the fandom. If the genders were reversed, and Adrien/a gender bent Marinette watched Marinette/ a gender bent Adrien, the show would be cancelled instantly.

2. She’s honestly a jerk sometimes. I’ve said this once before, and I’ll say it again, she was a b!tch to Kagami in Ikari Gozen. She intentionally sabotaged Kagami and her’s chances to win at the friendship treasure hunt, and she talked bad about Kagami behind her back to Alya. Why did she sabotage their chances? Because Marinette can’t understand that other people are allowed to have a crush on Adrien. Marinette was worried that if they won, Adrien would think Kagami did all the work and pay attention to only Kagami. Which was f**king idiotic because if Marinette knows so much about Adrien, she should’ve known that Adrien isn’t a d*ck and wouldn’t do things like that.  I said this in reason one, but I’m going to go more into it. She used her Ladybug identity to humiliate Lila. She could’ve ignored it, being the bigger person and let Lila lie. She could’ve kept to herself, being the only one who knew Lila was lying until sometime in the future everyone else figured it out. Honestly, she could’ve just laughed to herself any time Lila brought up being friends with Ladybug, and she could’ve, again, been the bigger person. Marinette could’ve just ignored Lila, she could’ve tuned her out, and just wait for her lies to tumble out of control and to blow up in her face. But, Marinette humiliated her in front of her crush. I know it’s Lila, and about 95% of the fan base hates her, but that’s a really sh*tty thing to do, no matter who it is.

3. People got mad at CHLOE for causing akumatizations, but no one seems to care how many Marinette/Ladybug caused.  If you hate Chloe, I’ve seen that a common reason is how many akumatizations she’s caused. But everyone seems to forget that Marinette has caused some herself. Volpina, Gamer, WereDad, Riposte, Backwarder, Dark Owl, Queen Wasp, Animaestro, Santa Claws, Christmaster, Antibug and Evillustrator to name a few. Though, in her defense (wow never said that before) in Evillustrator, it was mainly Chloe who got Nathaniel angry, though Marinette did help make it worse by tricking him. That’s 12, 11 if you don’t count Evillustrator, akumatizations by Marinette. I would list all the people Chloe akumatized, but I don’t really have the time for that, so I did research and found out Chloe caused 14. Basically, Marinette caused two less than Chloe. Before anyone insults me, calling me stupid because “Marinette didn’t mean to cause those akumatizations! Chloe meant them all!” An akumatization is an akumatization no matter what. It doesn’t matter if it was on accident, on purpose, or just a misunderstanding, she still caused them.

4. Puppeteer 2 Yeah, that episode gets it’s own section. I know people must be tired of the Puppeteer 2 slander, but I have to mention it in my reasons. The episode is just…. Jesus Christ. It’s easily the worst episode of Mlb for me. I hate it more than pretty much everything else I hate. First, we all know it’s wrong to kiss a statue of your crush? Right? We get that? Good. So basically, Marinette sees a statue of Adrien, and like any normal person with a normal, non-stalker crush on someone, goes to kiss it, and pockets one of his hairs. Again, things in kids shows are obviously extra exaggerated for comedic purposes, but F**KING H*LL THAT WASN’T EVEN FUNNY??? I get cringy things tend to be extra cringe in shows like this, just so everyone can laugh about how awkward it is, but does no one think this is crossing many lines? I saw someone on reddit say “Marinette kissed him and Adrien didn’t pull back!” Well yeah. He was in shock. Think of it in Adrien’s point of view. You’re about to do a prank on your good friend Marinette by pretending to be a wax statue, and when she sees you, she starts gushing about you, plucking a piece of your hair off your scalp, stuffing it in her pocket, then going in to kiss you. Your simple prank took a major turn, and know you stand there, still in shock that Marinette would act like this. I would add more to that, but I can’t re-watch that scene to see what else happens or else I’ll cringe so hard I’ll never be able to watch that ep again for a month.

5. Conclusion. Marinette has problems. You can disagree with me all you want, but it’s true. You can still like Marinette, I don’t give a sh*t, really. But just acknowledge that she has problems. You can still love hr, relate to her, anything. Just don’t make her seem like the perfect Goddess of a person when she really isn’t.