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random rant about Ben but a point i see get brought up a lot (very few times im just looking for it) about how Dean can't be Bens father is that Michael would have used him as a vessel instead of Adam if they were related.

And just no? First of all Ben was like what? 10 or so when they tried to end the world and i just don't think Michael would pick a little kid to fight the devil in and secondly It was about brothers. Michael had to fight the devil his brother not a kid related to his brother's vessel. so it had to be Dean or Adam from what Cas said

I don't even really think Ben is Dean's kid but this was just a weak argument in my opinion

(Also somewhat related thought Alistair once said it was supposed to be John who was the righteous man who shed blood in hell. If he did instead of Dean would he have been the vessel instead of Dean or was Alistair just spewing crap at Dean to make him upset?)