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i read somewhere that kpop and kdrama are propaganda to distract the world from the terrorism south korean women face at the hands of their males peers

and i think the same can be said about japan. anime is propaganda to distract the world from the terrorism japanese women face at the hands of japanese moids

something i keep seeing among all the celibacy discussions is this argument that we shouldn't restrict women from trying to find "love". but what does love mean? love is as much defined by our social realities as everything else involving sex & sexuality. love, romance & partnership are not neutral concepts. heterosexist patriarchy wields the ideal of love against women and our class interests, to instill in us that love is the only thing we should aspire for. that love is marriage, children, self-sacrifice, & submission to a man. fantasies of love are one part of female socialisation into femininity & heterosexuality. given men are socialised not for the capacity of love in its purest sense but for dominance and ownership, how is it you are hoping to find love with them? can you find love and partnership that is truly free of the inequalities of capitalism & patriarchy? just as we interrogate sex we should interrogate love.

i am at the point where i no longer entertain delusions of romantic love with a man. i am not happy to settle for "what i can get" from a man, which honestly i don't think would ever be very much. watching and learning from the older women in my family it seems like the "love" of men is not worth having. what i am searching for instead is community and love among women. romantic or sexual love from men is not love's only form, love's only source. but that is what they would like you to believe.

All I have to say about this pride month's discourse is I'm about to start unfollowing people if I keep having to see the same women who were happily reblogging 4B movement posts suddenly wringing hands crying heterophobia over anyone wishing we could have that level of female class consciousness and solidarity here too. Lesbians are not out here trying to press you into service picking vegetables on the lesbian commune, you're embarrassing yourselves.

tumblr gender havers having a conniption over south korean feminists oh so naively "allying" themselves with radfems is so transparent. why don't you think south korean women are capable of holding their own radical feminist thoughts and perspectives? the 4b movement IS a radical feminist movement. south korean women are fully capable of being radical feminists in their own damm right, and trans people are not actually the centre of the universe.

—— 01.

preface: I shall start by saying 6B4T is a lifestyle choice. no one, no lesbian especially, has the power required to separate you from your males, we do not have the power to ban, or restrict, or kill you for continuing to date, idolize, and birth males while having no female solidarity and prioritizing no women. the most "backlash" you shall receive is online words on a screen. compared to real life as women are raped, beaten, assaulted by men repeatedly over and over; we are not wrong to demand feminist action and hold women up to a certain standard. 

6B4T: a South Korean & Chinese feminist movements that calls for radical action & provides the most practical and sensible way of ending the patriarchy. the tenets are:

"radical feminism"; there is a disconnect here, but not by much. western radical feminism is the one that originated during the 3rd wave feminist movement. the meaning of it was to 'get to the root' of the problem and dismantle the patriarchy. the word radical here also applies in a literal sense, meaning radical action. then there is the South Korean / Chinese radical feminism or the 6B4T group which is essentially the same, but with clear cut goals and lifestyle. a direct approach on how to best, and swiftly end patriarchal oppression; at the root. while they both refer to different sects, the end solution is always the same: separatism. which is why it is important that online radfems learn the difference between the radical feminist label, and gender critical. not centering & catering to males is an essential necessity of the movement. you cannot pick and choose when to call yourself a radical feminist while actively contradicting the fundamentals of the movement itself simply because you do not want to take radical action, in a radical feminist movement.

Separatism: I outright refuse to believe separatism constitutes as a 'radical' action, rather it should be considered the most natural solution. the obvious choice. the only power we have is to not serve men. let's break this down; for the sake of convenience let's just ignore male family members at this point, despite the fact that they're the ones who are most likely to benefit out of your subjugation. for now let's focus on romantic male partners. 

to start, I've heard many say that I, as a lesbian, have no right to give my input on this topic, and during my earlier r*dblr days I'll admit I thought that too as I was being silenced by every osa woman around me. still, that did not stop me from thinking and forming opinions; seeing things clearly. some lesphobic way's I've been shut down includes saying things like "lesbians just don't get osa oppression, t's easy for you to advocate for celibacy when you aren't the one being involved with or being affected by men", or "you get to say that & date, yet we cannot find love? how unfair is that" 

—— to a degree this is correct, I'll never understand what you as a osa go through, but that does not mean we do not face misogyny. we are women, and we are traumatized constantly by being forced to be in the presence of males, usually brought around by osa women. the axis of homophobia and misogyny here overlap. that aside 6B4T radical feminist movement isn't made solely by lesbians. it's a movement started by women of all sexuality in South Korean & china. many women abstain from sex & marriage whether for religious reasons, or protest; it is not a new concept.

—— sorry but you won't receive any sympathy from me on the second point; lesbians are well resigned to the fact that we will never date, never find loved and will likely be sold or raped by our family members. and guess what? that isolation is unique to us, but it is also our norm. in every single tv show, play, books, media, conversation, history; every part of creation on the planet has been saturated in your favor; you were promised love from the start, you were given it in tv shows, in books, in historical stories, in songs, in poems — the world is made for you. everywhere you go. we never had that, we still don't. to me this sounds like the cries of the privileged. so sorry if I do not care much about how being celibate is a very difficult choice for you. I'm devoid of compassion here. I'm sure it's hard, but you will find someone else to hold your hand instead; the entire world always gives you what you want, so please bear my lack of sympathy. 

moving on, I don't think I need to expressly say it, but I will anyway: dating men is self harm. it's foolish; you endanger yourself and everyone around you. no, I am not infantilizing you when I say this. it is just a fact. I know it, and you know it, must I really pull out the beautiful words and string it all together lyrically? we both know the end result and the truth is this; men don't respect you, they do not care for you, and they do not love you beyond how one love's it's property. although I am well aware that when faced with uncomfortable facts women tend to double down often on their beliefs. it's a defense mechanism, so I have nothing to say to that. shut your ears, avert your eyes & scream about how wrong I am, I shall continue to speak to the ones who will listen then.  

I think the reason women on radblr find it so hard to be anti male centric is because of western privilege. due to the fact that the patriarchy you reside in is comfortable enough for you, you lack the empathy required to use your privilege to take radical feminist action & make a solid stance. western countries like America, Uk, etc have a lot of influence, the effects of colonization still ripple across many different countries; it is why popular fads like gender identity and pro-sexual abuse movements blaze through other countries. alternatively we can use this tide in the favor of all women; if western women take up such a bold feminist stance they shall cause a ripple effect and their actions will reflect the struggles of all women. 

However they refuse to do so because they are lazy and lack empathy for women in other countries because they aren't the ones being beaten, raped and sold by their family members into sexual slavery, because they aren't the ones being payed by governments to birth babies like cattle, because they aren't the ones who's parents kill them upon being born, because they aren't child brides (or at least pretend that it's not an issue in their countries), because they are not pawns; they have rights. and they lack empathy for us outside of reblogging posts to reaffirm their beliefs "oh look at those poor dirty countries, how those women suffer" while still being extremely individualistic and male centric. 

women do not need sex, to argue that having PIV / het sex is essential to your life as a woman is not only misogynistic, but homophobic as well. you are a multifaceted individual, your entire being is not tied to sexual acts you commit with men; it is not a need to have sex, you will not die if you do not have sex with men, insinuating so is very incel-like behavior. pleasing men sexually will not grant you liberation, no matter what gratification you claim to get out of it.

centering males is unfeminist. reproducing, marrying and birthing males is an unfeminist action. no amount of revolutionary online 'think' posts will aid in women's liberation unless you, yourself, take action. which brings me to the next point; some reasons & arguments that anti-separatists give: 

—— "it's too extreme": misogyny is extreme. feminism is extreme. you will not be liberated nor contribute to the liberation of anyone else as you drag your feet & hold any entire movement back by co-opting the 'radfem' label as a gender identity while taking no action. then calling everyone who rightfully follows and advocates for the principles of radical feminist 'deranged' and harassing them out of the spaces where they rightfully belong; lesbians & woc especially are a victim to such overwhelming target of harassment by bi/het privileged women as they continue to repeatedly prioritize men and themselves over marginalized minority women.

—— "how dare you say I don't deserve love" love has nothing to do with being deserving or worthy; I think you're too emotionally involved at this point where you cannot give up the privileges you acquire from bedding men, so instead you think yourself a victim of online hate crime. please go back to the preface at the start of this post, I don't want to retype it.

—— "if we stop reproducing with males, they will rape us". is that not more reason to separate from males? distance yourself so that they may never reach you again. being pressured to sleep with males; saying 'no' and getting raped: that is the true face of all males, these creatures will not 'love' you, no matter how much you try to romanticize it. for every 'good' male there is a girl he's harassed, a rapist friend he's defended, a porn watcher he's ignored, a woman he didn't help out, a comment he liked about misogyny. prioritize other women first, not males.

—— "osa women are the majority, they will never stop partnering with males, it's unrealistic to demand so & exclude them from feminism" you see.. here's the thing; separatists, lesbians, actual radfems: we have no systematic power to exclude or oppress osa's from feminism. there is no way to stop these women from benefiting of the labour of lesbians / woc radfems. however they, being part of the oppressor class, largely do have the power to come into radical feminist spaces and co-opt it, dismantle it and reconstruct it to 'function' within the frame work of their comfort (dating men, wearing makeup, watching porn, being hateful to lesbians and woc all the while simply being anti sex slavery and gender critical is enough for them to garner all the attention and positive reaffirmation they require about their male reformist feminism). 

    —— as for the first point; women in china, south korea, women in conservative households or even nuns; these are real women who practice celibacy, they are doing it as we speak, it is possible. have some courage. this is not a new concept and you are certainly not alone in this. 

    —— lastly, separatism not only helps you, but lesbians as well. continuing to force lesbians to be near, and interact with males means continuing a society where we are preyed on by men. I bring this up not because I expect anything of any of you, but rather because you are so quick to bring up words like "solidarity" & "sisterhood" in regards to male reformist osa women. well. I am throwing this back there; solidarity and sisterhood means taking actions that save lesbians from a lesphobic society. (don't worry, I know none of you take lesphobia seriously, this was more a comment on principle than expecting genuine results)

Criticism of radical feminism: lesphobia; as I was alluding to in my fourth point, osa women have a lot of structural power, especially when it comes to oppressing lesbians. and the entirety of radical feminist movement has been infested with political lesbianism; women who believe lesbianism is a choice, that simply not dating males makes you a lesbian, that exclusive same sex attraction is not real — all of this lesphobia has been prevalent since the start of radical feminism. lesbians were a big help to the advancement of women in terms of feminism, yet we were abused for it repeatedly. our voices were silence, we were stripped of our labels as a woman, and as a actual lesbian. even still, to this day so many lesbians continue to be brave and fight for the rights of all women, all we have been given in return is repeated abuse; we are treated like how male-lites and predators and that is proven time and time again on 'r*dblr'. if you are going to start having solidarity with all women ('the majority of the women are osa's') how about prioritizing vulnerable groups? lesbians and women of colour. groups who's labour you've continued to reap from.

hypocrisy of Tumblr radfems: my last critique is the hypocrisy of self-proclaimed Tumblr radfems; spineless. half of you are far too spineless due to your own comfort and privilege; (you excuse imperialism, racist jokes, birthing children and bedding males, why? because these issues don't affect you. did you know there are countries where women are paid to give birth to a minimum of 2-3 children? did you know that child brides, & arrange marriages are still a thing? do you even care? I think not, because you have the choice to not care and only focus on male reformation or defending your favorite r*dblr idols),  you have a disgusting clique mentality and shy away from holding people accountable for their actions, you are focused too much on trans issues and expend so very little energy or time to actually helping all women, you do not prioritize girls but instead groom and encourage them to sleep with men and be abused, you enable the worst inaction between each other all the while deluding yourself that you're achieving something big. you extend your compassion to worst people alive; anyone but a lesbian. women who are racist, women who are lesphobic, who bed men, women who birth men's children, women who cheat, women who sabotage — all of them are given 10000 excuses by self proclaimed radfems, they are never held accountable because perhaps it's your favorite popular blogger, or your mutual, or your friend — radical feminism is a feminist movement, do not derail it by letting your judgement be clouded. focus on what the objective is. 

(and because I know I will be told 'it's just tumblr', the original 6B4T movement was one that was started online too. you have no excuse). I have witnessed countless lesbians be run off radblr because simply asking certain women to be held accountable is apparently "drama/infighting/causing division" & oh — isn't it painfully, laughably funny? that only lesbians, women of colour and separatists are ever accused of 'causing a rift in feminism', isn't it funny that asking you to hold racists and lesphobes accountable is what gets us harassed and chased off a movement of our own creation? isn't it funny how you have more solidarity with osa white women then you will ever have with us? and isn't it funny that only we are told to "let go of a mistake / choice from x & y years ago, don't be mad over it anymore" by people who have no right to give any input? it's hilarious.

I am tired of lesbians and women of color making posts about how they are leaving because r*dblr collectively decided to side with class traitors. I am so very tired.

it’s kind of exhausting and depressing to be in the era of feminism where it’s watered down to just supporting women for being compliant with the patriarchy. will it hurt women to think critically about makeup, body image, heterosexual relationships, pornography, etc.? You can’t be a real feminist these days without so called feminists side eying you for bringing up the reality of being a woman. what’s that quote that says something along the lines of women ignoring their oppression because the truth is agonizing ? yeah, that’s what feminism is right now but it’s only getting worse

Y'all "TIRF"s aren't a thing, Radical Feminists are gender abolitionists so y'all just libfems who hate men a little more than average

I am begging for Radfems to NOT give up ‼️

We get threats for simply communicating our ideologies in a non-violent way

Our spaces are invaded and mocked

We're being fetishized for choosing to not be around misogonysts

And We can't go into other Internet sections besides ours while openly being Feminists due to the criticism we face

Their mad that we're progressing, their proving our point

All this Radfem hate (from trans women and fetishists alike) is directed and dictated by males in order to attempt to bring us back into the patriarchy

Men are not stupid,they know that if they try to dumbify our movement,we will be taken less seriously

We will not let this happen,mass report every fetish account you encounter,debate men often,do not be scared

Do it for yourself

Do it for your future

And do it for your sisters

♀️🥊

I fucking hate how males fetishize fucking EVERYTHING

Being overweight is a fetish

Feminism is a fetish

Nuns are a fetish

Housewives are a fetish

Working women are a fetish

BABIES ARE A FUCKING FETISH

To all the h3ter0 Feminism=men=women women reading: HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH KNOWING THAT YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE IS A FETISH?? And THE worst part is...WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THESE DICKHEADS ARE SO THEY COULD HE YOUR OWN COUSIN, BOYFRIEND , BROTHER, FATHER, ECT.

STOP SHOWING SYMPATJY TO PEDOPHILIC SADISTS

BRING THE 4B MOVEMENT TO THE WEST WE DESPERATELY FUCKING NEED IT!!

Just a cat wondering how not everyone has already grasped that, gender ideology and the trans movement is just another way of men preventing women from being in communion with each other thus, further destroying their evil societal system known as the patriarchy. They knew we're too powerful. So, they got some men to dress up as us, reduce us to what their species thinks we are and bash us for trying to preserve our hard earned rights for ourselves. Typical male narcissism, wanting to keep every accomplishment to themselves.

A reminder that if we as Women want to progress, we need to bite back at the dogs.

We're not gonna progress by staying quiet

We're not gonna progress by submitting to men

We're not gonna progress by letting misogony into our lives

We're not gonna progress by letting men invade our spaces

Make posters, assemble protests, join protests, glue stickers on the lampposts,sign petitions, do something even if it's small. Every action counts, even by small actions we're letting other Women and Girls know to not back down and that we're here for them.

Oppression is over a millennium overdue, It is time to take action.

An Angel loses her wings Everytime a Woman belittles another Woman online for her beliefs which contradict her male worshipping, male centered life.

"He touches me in ways which makes me uncomfortable" Dump him

"He hates it when I talk to other men" Dump him

"He grows out his facial hair" Dump him

"He tries telling me what to do with my life" dump him

"He doesn't let me go out with my friends" Dump him

"He raises his voice at me" Dump him

"He makes me uncomfortable" dump him

"bu-" just fucking Dump him.

You as a Woman, have no right in telling adult men what to do, it's their lives and none of your business. Men are stubborn and won't listen anyways, they do respond though. With violence, Dump his insecure nonchalant porn sick unromantic ass and get on with your life. There's an infinite amount of things to do in this world and you're gonna spend it all on some moids? Please...

Do you girls argue with WERMS online? Or do we just stay in our own communities, like I'm mad but I also don't want Dylan mulvaney to find my account,lmfao.

Replacing male centered language for you

Guys-Girls

Mankind- To be used for negative inventions

Womankind- To be used for positive inventions

Sex worker- prostituted woman, sex trafficking victim

Underage woman- child

Bitch- snake

Cunt- Rude

Slut- shameless

Whore- horrible

Bitchy- narsassistic

History- Herstory

TERF- Radical Feminist

Trans Woman- Trans identified male

non binary-gender non conforming Womyn/man

Virgin- She hasn't had sex before

Honour killing-Religiously charged femicide

Tantrum- Mantrum

Non consensual sex- Rape

SA - Sexual Assault (contrary to popular belief,you can write these words on tiktok instead of 🍇,SA, ect)

Revenge - Seeking out Justice

Incel - Rape apologist

Woman - Womyn

Beauty tok - Capitalist tok

Feminine - Graceful/Nurturing/Beautiful/Kind/Soft

Masculine - Rough/Aggressive/Red blooded

Gay Misogynist - Dick Me

Teen porn- Child rape videos

Hero- Shero

Motherfucker - Fatherfucker

Menstruation - Womenstruation

Son of a bitch - Son of a Scrub

I'm going to be updating this, suggestions are welcome.