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The thing about Dean and Cas is.. They remind me of me and my friend. I’m very much in love with her and I think she might feel the same about me. Ever since we met there’s been this weird, awkward tension between us, but just like Dean and Cas we never opened up about our feelings because we didn’t expect that the other one felt the same and we didn’t want to lose them. (Or maybe she really just sees me as a friend and that’s just how I feel, who knows).
We watched every single episode of Supernatural together and then 15x18 came around and against all expectations we got this beautiful confession scene (which is the most romantic love declaration ever, fight me) and it felt like something between me and my friend shifted.
We were SO sure that we would get Dean and Cas seeing each other again and Dean reciprocating the confession. So while we were getting ready to watch 15x20 with this expectation I could FEEL that there was this super strong, weird, almost electric energy between my friend and me. And I was so sure that once we would see Destiel together, both having opened up and told each other how they feel, we would finally be brave enough to do the same.
But then obviously we got whatever 15x20 was and I think we both just felt discouraged and lost hope that we feel the same and went back to just ignoring whatever there is between us.
I got here after the episode that shall not be named (15x20) and desperately needed support from people who went through the same trauma as me and to see the Destiel happy ever after!
pls reblog for larger sample size etc!! im very curious
15x20 Fix-it Fics
!!MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD!!
I think it is fair to say that at least a solid 70% of fans did not like the finale we were given, but it’s okay, because that means there is an abundance of fix it fics for your consumption.
Carry On by Castielslostwings on AO3. (8,039 words).
Tags: Coda, Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Heaven, Castiel Deserves Better, Love Confessions, First Kiss, First Time, Reunions, Explicit Sexual Content.
My Ratings: 5 stars.
Description: “I think I’ll go for a drive.” This is what happened between that moment, and Dean meeting Sam on that bridge.
Notes: This was written beautifully and was genuinely the ending that Dean and Cas deserved.
Loving Castiel by taegi on AO3. (1,996 words).
Tags: Fix-It, Post-Episode: s15e20 Carry On, Canon Compliant, Coda, Fluff, Getting Together, First Kiss.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: “How did you find me?” Dean asks. Castiel squints and looks at him like he’s the sun. “Your, uh, yearning was pretty loud,” he says sheepishly.
Notes: Kind of bittersweet, especially with the mentions of Dean’s death, but it is lovely to see my boys together and finally happy.
One Last Ride by xylodemon on AO3. (1,093 words).
Tags: Fix-It, Episode Related, Reunions, Spoilers, Destiel is canon.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: [15x20 episode coda -- anything I put here would be a spoiler]
Notes: This was so beautifully written and so sweet!
Maybe the Real Heaven was Us All Along by masked on AO3. (855 words).
Tags: Episode: s15e20 Carry On, Coda, Canon Compliant, Fix-It.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: At the end of the road, Dean gets a visitor in his Heaven.
Notes: I love how pretty much everyone just collectively agrees that this is how it should have ended.
Grace by july_19th_club on AO3. (5,164 words).
Tags: Fix-It, Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Resurrection, Reciprocated Confession.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: A man dies. What happens next will shock you. [script]
Notes: This was written beautifully, and now I really want to see this filmed! So much better than the ending we got.
The Cry of Elisha after Elijah by intothesilentland on AO3. (5,844 words).
Tags: Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Post-Episode: s15e20 Carry On, First Kiss, Reunion, Canon Compliant, Heaven.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: The kicker is, Dean had been trying to live. Really live. And not bite out in anger at the fraying of his heart: Cas, gone, Jack, gone—all that was left was him and his brother, and Dean had been trying to live, in spite, in light of that. In a world like the unsteady first steps of a child, apprehensive arms and hands cradling the air around them, ready for a slip, excited for a step, Dean had been trying to walk forward, too. Though every step had meant every pain. Upon his death, and arrival in heaven, Dean sets out to find the angel. He has to tell him. Cas has to know.
Notes: That poem at the start was really moving in this context, and the dialogue was so weirdly in character that everything was so real. It was definitely written better than the actual ending.
You Deserve To Be Loved by sandean_cas on AO3. (1,005 words).
Tags: Castiel and Dean Winchester Need to Use Their Words, Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Fix-It, Coda.
My Rating: 4 stars.
Description: Castiel senses Dean's longing and meets him on the bridge.
Notes: This was so cute, and it is my headcanon that the reason Cas didn’t go and immediately find Dean was because he was scared to see what Dean’s response would be.
surely heaven wants for you by cenotaphy on AO3. (3,782 words).
Tags: Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Love Confessions, First Kiss, Heaven, Coda, Post-Finale, Angst with a Happy Ending, Bisexual Dean Winchester, Outdoor Sex.
My Rating: 4 stars.
Description: Cas doesn't come to him. Dean can't really argue with that, given the circumstances. In all the history of balls in courts, he thinks there might never have been a ball as thoroughly in a court as this one is in his. He drives for what feels like a long time but might just be a single sunny afternoon, or maybe years (time's funny here, Bobby had said), just enjoying the music, the shifting landscape outside his window, the hum and creak of the engine. Finally the forest opens up and the road narrows down in a way that he's fairly certain wouldn't typically happen on any kind of earthly interstate, and he glides the car to a halt at the edge of a lake.
Notes: This was such a beautiful and moving exploration of Dean’s feelings.
the miracle of death by goodnightfern on AO3. (802 words).
Tags: 15x20 Coda, Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Canon Compliant.
My Rating: 3 stars.
Description: They say in Heaven love comes first, but Heaven sure ain't a place on earth.
Notes: I love the way they have portrayed Dean’s heaven; the whole thing was just quite relaxing.
The End of the Beginning by violue on AO3. (1,773 words).
Tags: Canonical Character Death, Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Grief/Mourning, Gap Filler, Missing Scene.
My Rating: 3 stars.
Description: Dean's just about ready to say goodbye.
Notes: The idea of Cas as a reaper is really sweet.
A shameless self promotion:
nothing ever really ends, does it? by LinaRai on AO3. (1,989 words but more chapters being added).
Tags: Episode Fix-It: s15e20 Carry On, Fix-It, Cafe AU, Established Relationship, Resurrection, Heaven, Reunions, Alternate Ending.
Description: A collection of different endings of Supernatural, because we deserve better than the one we were given. Each one is self-contained, and they are all varying lengths!
Notes: I’m adding a new chapter to this every day, and I’m hoping to write 50 in total! If you have any suggestions for an ending you would like to see written, please ask me, and I would be happy to write it for you!
And a bonus Good Omens crossover because I can’t help myself:
Nothing Equals the Splendor by ElliottRook on AO3. (1,744 words).
Tags: Fix-It, Post-Canon, Crossover, Canonical Character Death, Post-Canon Fix-It, Post-Episode: s15e20 Carry On, Coda.
My Rating: 5 stars.
Description: Aziraphale wants to be left alone by Heaven, with the exception of his good friend Castiel, who he shares a history of impossible-seeming romantic problems with, and he's very pleased to hear about the new organization of Heaven after Castiel's last adventure.
Notes: Aw, Aziraphale giving Cas relationship advice was so adorable!
I hope you enjoy these, which are all somehow better written than the ending we got. And they’re free. And not (as far as I know) written by professionals.
It’s known that the human brain can’t tell the difference between fictional death and real death. They’re all the same to it. So if you’re actually going through mourning rn, I just wanna say it’s okay. It’s normal. You’re not overreacting. Take your time to process and stay safe <3
Lets talk about the Bare Minimum
Okay guys, obviously there is a huge divide here among those of us that are super positive and excited and those of you that are really doubtful the finale will give us anything remotely worthwhile. So lets break this down okay? Perhaps it can get us all on a fairly level playing field?
What is the absolute bare minimum the Supernatural Finale can give us to satisfy us?
Everyone will have different ideas of course, but if we dismiss all our wildest dreams and high expectations and consider the fact that yes, this is still Supernatural and they do tend to run on a mix of batshit crazy, profound and poetic beauty, and things seemingly falling into place so perfectly it was clearly 100% accidental (eg: The Monster at the End of this Book) then we should probably try to find a centre point. A point that we can use to gauge how the episode will fair overall.
So what is the bare minimum?
Castiel returns
This is it. This should be the bare minimum we should expect in order to make this finale meaningful.
If we are given nothing else, Cas returning should be enough for us to nod and say “okay Supernatural. You tried. You got him back. He was there for the finale. That’s the main thing.”
If Castiel isn’t back and the finale is just Sam and Dean driving around looking for generic MOTW hunts like in Season 1 in some sort of bronly wet dream, that would be a massive anticlimax and miserable way to end the series. It will be the worst ending of a show since GoT.
BUT we know Misha filmed 20. I will hear no more to the alternative. Misha filming 20 is and always has been a fundamental FACT.
So Castiel returns. Bare minimum met? Right? Of course there are caveats to that key point.
Castiel returning in flashback form only, or as a memory or dream, whilst the actual Castiel still remains in the Empty is NOT an acceptable option. If the show takes this route, this is still below the bare minimum. This would be deemed a failure in my opinion just as if the finale is just Sam and Dean being bros on the road.
What really needs to happen for the bare minimum to be met, is for Castiel to be rescued from the Empty. Whether that is by Jack, by Dean, or by himself or some other means, Castiel must return from the Empty to fix the only actual loose end not tied up in 15x19. We should also finally get the Empty being sent back to sleep, because having just binge watched episodes 12-18 all in one week, let me tell you, the amount of times it is repeated that the Empty desperately wants to go back to sleep is a LOT. From what I have been told, the Empty isn’t even mentioned in 19, so that is the only plot point actually still hanging over the series.
Of course, had Castiel not confessed his “homosexual feelings of love” for Dean in 15x18, then at this point I would have said that the bare minimum I needed was for Cas to be saved, and for Dean to give him a heartfelt hug and a look of love and to say “lets go home” off into a future where we know the story ends with Dean and Cas together in an ambiguous relationship. (Honestly, for a long time, this is the ending I thought we would get).
But Dabb and Bobo have written themselves into a very specific corner.
Castiel’s confession was not ambiguous. Because of this, the big question hanging over the final ever episode of the longest running genre show on TV, isn’t about whether the heroes will stop the big bad, it isn’t whether or not they will live or die, nope, it’s whether the lead male character will reciprocate romantic love for his “equally male” (Note - I’m talking in terms of mainstream here don’t @ me) best friend. The big question Supernatural has gone and put to its audience is “is Dean Winchester also in love with Castiel and therefore, is he also queer?”
This is an unpresedented situation that the show has put itself in.
Because of this, the bare minimum is no longer just Castiel being saved. It’s also Dean answering that question that the show has put to us.
Castiel must be saved, and the love confession must be addressed. These things are the key points going into this final episode. If either of them are glossed over in any way, the show would have fundamentally failed it’s audience, its characters, it’s cast, and everyone involved in it. Given how optimistic and happy everyone who works on the show seems to be currently, I highly doubt that is the case.
So. Castiel must be saved, and the confession must be addressed. Do we accept Dean rejecting Cas?
There is I suppose, a very slim chance that this could happen. If the Network let their own homophobia get to them (before you come @ me, no I don’t consider the CW’s many young attractive lesbian characters to let them off the hook for years of avoiding any non stereotypical queer men. IT’S TOTALLY DIFFERENT) then they may have greenlighted Cas’s queerness whilst refusing to do the same for Dean. They may consider simply saving Castiel and therefore #resurrectingyourgays as enough to satisfy the queer viewers, even though Castiel’s love was not returned. Perhaps in the final episode we will get a flashforward to years down the line and Cas has got over Dean and is living it up with another man? It’s possible right?
It would also cause utter outrage in the fanbase. Dabb and Bobo are far more savvy than fandom gives them credit for. I personally think that had the network said no to Dean reciprocating Castiel’s love, then Dabb and Bobo would have kept it ambiguous, and simply strongly implied that they end up together in an ending like the one I always thought we would get when my hopes for Destiel were at a low point.
So Dean reciprocating Castiel’s love also falls under the bare minimum requirements for the episode to be a success.
How they go about showing Dean reciprocating Cas’s feelings I don’t know. Do I absolutely need a kiss? No. It’s not a bare minimum requirement. Anything beyond Dean simply telling Cas he loves him back and Cas smiling at him is a bonus. Perhaps they could show it the way they showed Jesse and Cesar in 11x19. Through affection and care, but no actual kisses.
Whilst I personally believe we will get a kiss, it’s not a bare minimum, and if we don’t get one I will still be satisfied so long as we get all of the following:
Castiel is saved from the Empty
Dean reciprocates his love
Dean and Cas end up together (whether that be to live lives together on Earth, or both go out fighting and reunite in heaven together. Whatever the case, they must end up together)
My 3rd point here is the only other bare minimum requirement I need to not feel like they have screwed it up. I don’t care whether Dean and Cas end the show alive or dead. What I DO care is that regardless of where they end up, be it Earth, Heaven, or even Purgaytory, they are together. They must end the series together.
There are of course many other things I want. I want Cas to give up his grace (by choice) and become a human (I really wanna see him in Winchester plaid at least once!). I want to see them slow dancing like Garth and Bess did in 15x10. I want Sam to reunite with Eileen and also get a happy ending. I hope they get to keep the damn dog too. Ideally, I want a soft epilogue, because these boys are good people, and they’ve suffered enough. Whatever else may happen though, so long as those bare minimum requirements are met, I will consider the ending a resounding success.
Personally, I don’t think I’m asking for much.
THIS COULD'VE BEEN EVERYTHING
So I decided to step into the editing room and make one little change…
Fuck man, Jensen Ackles investing 15 years of his life, his talent, blood, and tears into Dean Winchester and this small tv-series.
Jensen Ackles A-star level actor declining other roles in big shows and movies like avengers out of loyalty and respect for Dean and the SPN fandom. Jensen Ackles, who could’ve easily earned an oscar had he left the show for something else.
Jensen Ackles leaving his family for 9 months every year to shoot the show.
Jensen Ackles calling Dean his friend and saying that he’ll carry him inside for the rest of his life. Jensen Ackles caring about Dean like no writer ever did, making deliberate changes to the way he portrayed Dean in order to reflect what Dean had been through and how it changed his character. Who analysed the shit out of scripts and made sure they were true to Dean’s character and journey, putting SO MUCH thought into his every single acting decision.
Jensen Ackles, who hated the ending, but was told convicted that he was wrong about it, that he was “too close”, when in reality he was THE ONLY who knew what was right and who Dean was all along.
Jensen Ackles, who worked so hard for so long and gave up so much to make Dean so relatable, admirable, lovable, and complex like no other character out there….only to have him ended like that…
We all deserved better and we all have been spat in the face, but no one more than Jensen Ackles & Dean Winchester. And while I am angry for myself, I am fucking furious for them.
IS THIS REAL? DID THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN? DID DEAN SAY IT BACK? IF HE DID THEN THE CW TOOK THIS TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL BEYOND QUEERBAITING IF THIS IS TRUE THIS IS BULLSHIT
This sums it up nicely
Alright fellas, how we feeling?
Preach!!
I really want to know what Kripke told Jensen to make him agree to this ending
tbh jensen has already told us. the facts are this: kripke didn’t see the show after s5. he told jensen the same thing he did when the show started: it starts and ends with the brothers. and...jensen agreed because he still has fond memories of landing the role of dean winchester and he assumed that no one could understand the essence of these characters better than kripke himself because kripke is supernatural’s creator.
but....the sad reality is that jensen was wrong. jensen was the only one who carried dean on his shoulders for 15 years. jensen saw dean grow because he had to be dean and had to rationalize every action that dean took on the script so that he could portray it to us authentically. jensen thought about what made dean tick more than anybody else did. jensen thought about what dean felt for his mom or for cas or for his brother and father and any character that interacted with dean, no matter how small in our eyes, because that is the type of careful deliberate actor that jensen is.
jensen’s gut reaction was right because he was the closest to dean and the tragedy is that all of them told him that he was wrong because of that closeness.
Perfection.
Supernatural had the opportunity to do something great. To send a message of love and validation to a whole community. Not only to the part of the community that liked their show, but to all of us. But instead they decided to pander to the people, who never had to fight for their representation.
I support #TheySilencedYou, #TheySilencedThem and #TheyWillNeverSilenceUs and I'm in awe of all of you. Of your eloquence, passion, coordination and decisiveness. And I feel like your message goes beyond this particular TV show and the CW.
It's about protesting a pattern of disrespect towards otherness in Mainstream Media. It's about demanding meaningful, unmistakably queer representation, that enables discourse and furthers understanding in a heterogenic Audience. It's about asking Networks to not only hire diverse staff but to also give them the freedom to tell their stories the way they want to. It's about telling creators to own up to the inherent messages they leave us with in the end.
And that's inspiring and should be celebrated.
Stories matter.
Sam’s happy ending <3 <3
wow, I love Supernatural REAL ending
I mean why would ANYBODY go to live a life they don’t want because (you think) it was the life your dead brother wanted for you???
And you would dump a woman you love and marry someone else because (you think) your dead brother didn’t wanted you to marry the first lady???
Like none of that makes any fucking sense?!
“CASTIEL IS SAVED”
(THE GOOD) SUPERNATURAL FINALE (THAT LIVES IN MY HEAD) ⋙ 15.20 “CARRY ON” “CRY NO MORE” | aired 19 november 2020
[based on this post] the world is safe, chuck is gone, and everyone came back…almost. with heaven and hell now on lockdown and his four year-old god/son ignoring his calls, a grieving dean struggles to move on after cas’ sacrifice. when jack returns with a way into the empty, however, the winchesters and their friends come together for one last hunt to bring their angel home.
they really let dean parent a child with another man (to the point that dean calls him "OUR kid") then had him divorce and reunite with said male coparent, let the male coparent confess his undying love for him in one of the most earnest moments in the series history, in a way that "cuts to the core of his self doubt" and then said..... no the hero of our show will not ever get to live a fulfilling life😌😌😌😌 we'd rather he be dead than admit hes queer
okay cool cool cool
How fucking dare they do this?!!?!?!??!!!
THE COMMENTS OMG I'M DYING
Supernatural 15x20 ‘Carry On’ deleted scene(x)