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Survival Of The Fittest
For those who are affected by Scorpio/8th house/12th house: scorpio rising/moon in scorpio/venus in scorpio/moon in 8th house/venus in 8th house/pluto in 1st house/pluto in 8th house/pluto in 12th house/12th lord in 8th house/7th lord in 8th house/8th lord in 7th house/inner planets in 8th house/Saturn in 8th house/Sun in 12th house

The phrase 'Survival Of the Fittest' was coined by Herbert Spencerย after he was inspired byย Charles Darwin'sย On the Origin of Species. Spencer drew parallels between his own economic theories and Darwin's biological theories and said "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life." We, in astro community, can draw a similar parallel to the astrological theories that indicate a difficult emotional, psychological, mental, physical, fated and spiritual life. Even Carl Jung associated collective unconscious to the genetic memory that exists in all of humanity universally.
Survival of the fittest means thatย organisms that are better adapted to their environment are best suited to survive and successfully reproduce. It also explains how evolution occurs in species by means of natural selection of those traits that are better adapted to a given set of environmental conditions. We read all this in school textbooks and forget it all when we walk into the real world.
Having difficult 8th house/12th house placements is like the Sisyphean task when he was condemned to roll a boulder up a hill, only to have it fall near the top, forcing him to start over and over again. This is what it feels like to be battling the unknown, unseen, intangible psychic forces of the 8th and 12th houses that emerge in the awareness from time to time endlessly. You are stuck in a situation that you cannot explain in words so you seek answers in symbolism, esoteric, dreams, psychology, magic and otherworldly pursuits because your problems are simply not visible to the naked eyes.

4. The paradox of life is that even though we are born with difficult life stories, the world does not have space for the weak, dependent, miserable. On one hand, this creates isolation, victim mentality, bitterness, "nobody understands me", "society is so insensitive to mental health issues". But on the other hand, we realize that we are just animals, some really smart animals that can think, write, civilize, earn money, reproduce, make laws, run the system, yet we are just animals in the hands of natural laws. The law of nature, therefore, is survival of the fittest, to become strong, adapt, improvise, improve, evolve, grow.
5. The point of this post is not laziness but exhaustion/victim mindset/bitterness/feeling left behind tendencies in native who had to spend a lot of times in healing, battling their psychological issues that appear invisible to the physical eyes and living with a sense of "what is wrong with me?"
6. To them, I just want to say that do not let the exhaustion tear you down. The environments of 8th and 12th houses are such emergency provoking, life threatening, dark, hidden, unknown, distant from physical life, invisible to naked eyes, emotionally draining and psychically charged. How you learn to accept your fate and live along with it is in your hands. I too had to come to terms with the constant ups and downs of my story, the sudden detours and catastrophe of my story, sometimes the sadistic undertones and stagnancy of my story, but in the end I realized that I was the saviour to my own fallen angel. Whether it is my past life karma, intergenerational karma or random allotment of fates, I would not live in bitterness and envy of those who have it easier, better and colourful. Learning to adapt to the environments of 8th and 12th houses is a real challenge, a very difficult one, not written in books but usually comes to knowedge intuitively and that is why it is so hard to understand and codify in language.
7. Finally, I do not have any advice or rulebook for 8th/12th housers, for each person has their own unique solution. I would just like to say that time is running out, you have already seen the theme of your life until now, be brave, pull yourself up and make peace with your traumatic memories. And maybe, find attract people who are also in a similar attitude as you. People who understand when you say "No I don't want to watch a movie right now, I want to journal some of my thoughts and emotions."

hi ! i would love to hear ur thoughts on 12th house as a natal placement ! :) thank u
also would love to hear your takes on 12th house stelliums if you ever have the chance!! ๐ค
Hi, I hope this resonates!
Sun in the 12th House๐
DISCLAIMER: These are all based off of my experiences with those who have this placement.
๐ Artistic individuals. They are drawn to the arts in one way or another, be it acting/theatre, music, painting etc. They tend to use this as their outlet for expression.
๐ Following from the point above they are more likely to have an eye for aesthetics
๐Very Caring and in some cases might naturally gravitate towards the role of caretaker, whether that be in friendships or any other relationships in the nativeโs life.
๐A bit more reserved and private when it comes to their personal lives. The type to sit back and observe more than talking and sharing details.
๐ I also feel like they're more likely to be the type of people to disappear, go off on their own for who knows how long and do their own thing and then randomly pop up again in their friends' lives one day
๐Empathetic. How open or easily they express this is dependent with the Sun sign itself
๐I feel that they may really get in their own head at times
๐ I wouldn't say they're all introverted but they are more secretive. You get to know them better day by day over time(if they let you) since they are not normally ones to put all their cards on the table right away.
๐ Maybe it's just the few I've met, but I think that for some, their sense of self can be quite impressionable??(let me try and explain). So I feel like people can project on them a lot. Project their idea of what they think the native is like and the native tends to not want to disappoint so they can at times act accordingly.
๐ With any water placement, they can almost soak up others' energy or are at least very sensitive to it.
Now on to.....
12th House Stellium ๐
๐With a 12th house stellium I really do believe there is a want or need for time alone. They already seem to be off in their own little world most times anyway.
๐ Again, I'm mentioning a tie to the arts and creativity as anything in relation to the sign Pisces and the 12th House usually includes this, especially if there is a stellium.
๐ I've seen that 12th House placements can at times be more open minded, especially towards foreign things/ people/ cultures etc. Not always, but I feel they're more likely to accept and embrace it.
๐ I'd say they're pretty stubborn or at least persistent people (especially when paired with earth placements)
๐ They've definitely got their own individual sense of style. Again this can definitely differ from person to person, however, on a number of occasions I've seen this lean more towards an artsy look or slightly hippie/boho type pattern or clothing
๐ In most cases I've seen those with 12th House/Pisces placements attract as well as are drawn towards those with 8th House/Scorpio placements
๐Themes of spirituality are either very significant in their lives or just isnโt regarded at all. This is something I feel happens with any stellium, you either heavily resonate with the theme tied to it or you go the complete opposite direction
Iโve always found it difficult to navigate life with my 12th House placements. I donโt really see myself too clearly sometimes. But, people seem to see and my personality, talent, interests, etc. much clearer than me. I feel like the shadow of the sun, rather than being the sun itself.
Astrology observations pt19๐ก
Disclaimer: all these observations are based on my personal observations โค๏ธ
DO NOT ๐ซ PLAGIARISE ๐ซ MY ๐ซ WORK ๐ซ IF YOU WISH TO REPOST IT GIVE ME THE CREDITS ๐๐งฟ

โ๏ธI've noticed something that even the most "temperamental" or "active" mars sign can become passive/passive aggressive if placed in the house of opposite element or opposite sign.
I'll explain boissss๐
Aries mars in 1st house -> pretty straightforward and if underdeveloped, temperamental and explosive๐ฃ
Aries mars in 7th house-> may take a more indirect form of communication or may be more prone to bottling up emotions if underdeveloped.๐ฅ
โ๏ธ i feel like jupiter in 12th house may be more prone to addiction but it doesn't always translate into alcohol and drugs. It could also translate into day dreaming, sleeping, or anything that buys them time away from dealin with too many ppl or situations ywim???!?
โ๏ธpisces placements/ Neptune Doms/ 12th house placements ๐ค their bed ๐๏ธ โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
โ๏ธi also feel that 12th house places may not even like alcohol as such or may not feel the need to drink it alot of times but can be pretty chill with others doing it๐๏ธ๐๏ธ๐๐
โ๏ธNeptune ascendant aspects can indicate that ppl may not have a very clear idea abt who you are initially cause remember in one of my observations, i had said that any planet or point in aspect with Neptune can create a blur. Neptune in aspect with ascendant may also mean that you may not be very clear abt who you are or what direction you're taking in life but somehow it makes sense even when nothing makes sense ifywimโ๏ธโ๏ธ
Astrology observations pt20๐
All these observations are based on my personal observations โค๏ธ
DO NOT ๐ซ PLAGIARISE ๐ซ MY ๐ซ WORK ๐ซ IF YOU WISH TO REPOST IT GIVE ME THE CREDITS ๐๐งฟ

๐ซง mc in cancer can indicate being viewed as a motherly/ maternal figure who's very kind and soft which leads to us being underestimated. But that's cool cause y'know we stay shocking ppl with how determined, stern and hardworking we can be once we get to it๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐๐๐
๐ซง I'm guilty of this soo pisces/Neptune Doms/ 12th house boissss forgive me ๐ค ๐ค but i remember thinkin that the ones listed above are so lost in their dreamyland that theyre probably just not that ambitious ๐คก๐คกbut nooooooooo that's the worst mistake you can make with these ppl. Underestimating them.๐ช๐ช๐ช๐ค ๐ค ๐ค These ppl are and ambitious they just don't show it/ we dont see it (Neptune effect) It's like idk how to describe them but I'll try.โ
Once they find something they rlly want to invest in something or a purpose, they become these giants with their heads in the cloud /looking up and feet on the ground just running in the direction of their goal and they rlly dont care how hard they have to work or how long they have to work. Same goes with Aquarius placements too cause they also tend to dream alot. And i mean ALOT(guilty here aqua sun๐๏ธ๐๏ธ)
๐ซง i feel like major aspects with Pluto can rlly change the way ppl perceive you.
Like if you have virgo rising normally ppl stereotype them as these boring ppl who have a very elfy clean look to them but if you have any any personal planet aspecting(majorly the harsh ones) with Pluto like moon/venus/mars etc, ppl can sense that intensity in you or you may show it to everyone when time comes. Let me know if you've actually been through something like this.๐๐
๐ซงidk if this is true for all, but saturn Pluto aspects tend to create this intense need to become more structured/ successful/ disciplined/ responsible in life and they may be extremely ambitious too. Again let me know abt your experiences ๐๐
Also, do y'all dream abt becoming extremely influential and powerful and having alot of money cause ๐๏ธ๐๏ธ
Astrology observations pt22๐ฌ
Disclaimer: all these observations are based on my personal observations โค๏ธ
DO NOT PLAGIARISE ๐ซ MY ๐ซ WORK ๐ซ IF YOU WISH TO REPOST IT GIVE ME THE CREDITS ๐

YALLLLL I HAVE A FEW PERSONAL STORY TIME MOMENTS RN I CANNOT -๐
๐ชokayyyyyyyyyy story time,
Sooo i recently started going to clg and i started liking this guy. Were gonna call him spikeyhairman. Ik. Bear with me ๐ฅฒ๐
It was like i started liking him at the very first sight. Idk how to explain it, it was like i felt so drawn to him and got a little obsessed with him. So i just checked his chart out of curiosity๐๏ธ๐๏ธ and found out he had Leo sun and Aries ascendant with Scorpio mars. Yes. Ik. That mars also had y'all๐๏ธ๐๏ธ๐ง๐ซ and then i saw my chart and i have Leo in 12th and mars in 8/Aries.
It was like we know we like eachother but aren't making any moves. I'm not cause i dotn wanna get rejected and ik he's not cause he doesn't either.
When i tell you, I've NEVER gone out of ym way to see a guy, I MEAN IT. he just brings out something in me, like i want his attention i want him i dress up for my self but a part of me also wants him to notice me. Y'know what i mean????
AND GUESSS WHATTTTTTT ๐ซ๐ซ๐ซ๐ซ๐ซ
ok sooooooooo ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ
I didn't meet him for 2 days. Like i didn't take the usual route to the other block of my uni and guess what? He started cmg around on my floor and came around to see me, not once but 6 times. Ik. Ik. Some shit out of Wattpad ik. Let that sink in.
Since I'm still an amateur, I'm trying to figure out this type of astrological side. So bear with me and if any other person who has exp, feel free to engage โบ๏ธ๐
My point is, the planet/sign in your 8 house can bring out sides in you that you may never have thought and you may attract that theme into your love life or relationships in gen.
Like im my case, i have mars in 8 house which traditionally rules Scorpio and Aries.
Aries is alot abt passion, quick attraction, chase and guess what? It s all there. I didn't even know his name for like 1 month but i still fell for him cause of his piercing. It was on site attraction.
Scorpio is abt passion, intensity, secrets and being guarded too. And once again, guess what??? I want to see him all the time but when i do get to see him, i look away cause ik he knows i like him but neither of us have verbally said it. It's like you feel it. It's intense.
So pay attention to your 8 house and 12th house too cause it is the house of hidden. You may secretly feel attracted towards those themes or may attract people with those themes.๐๐๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ
๐ช you may attract alot of people with he same rising signs as yours. Like i have Libra rising and i have attracted quite alot of libras in my life atp.
๐ช i Never believed that venus risings could be charming as fuck but GOD DAMMMNNNNNN the way my Libra rising ass gets compliments and somewhat misinterpreted as flirty just because I say thankyou or speak to them in a warm and sweet manner๐๐. It genuinely confuses me cause i have my eyes on one guy but i don't even speak to him ๐๏ธ๐๏ธ๐ง
๐ช pisces men don't let go of arguments easily. More specifically sun, moon and Mars. Sometimes even mercury. Ik it. Cause my dads. One.๐ฅฒ๐
also babies sorry for the long break, all this uni shit had me ๐๏ธ๐๏ธ๐ง
Love you guys๐คโค๏ธ
song for 12H-ers/12H placements
Planets in the 12th House ๐งฟ

SUN IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Multiple personalities and they're all confusing. Either seems like a narcissist or a wallflower but they're really not. Most of them are massive insomniacs but also can freakishly thrive on very little sleep. MUST work on their solar plexus chakra (may either be blocked or overactive). A lot of them strongly believe in past lives/reincarnation and could be very naturally tapped into their Akashic Records. Deja Vu 24/7. In the arts, they are absolute icons and trendsetters. Could be more of a leader in their creative field but passive otherwise. If their father is in their life, no one drives them crazier but there is no one they admire and respect more. If not, they feel better off without a father and don't see it as a void in their life.
MOON IN THE 12TH HOUSE: The "child whisperer"; babies and kids instantly feel safe and soothed and understood around them. Capable of 100 different moods in the span of a day. Yet will insist they're "fine" when you ask. Uncannily capable of telling when others are not as happy as they appear. CLAIRSENTIENCE. An empath who needs to protect their energy for the sake of their sanity. Must express their emotions maturely or else they get very self-destructive. Deep, deep love of movies or music that may just be a hobby. Most feel incredibly indebted to their mothers or can have a very codependent motherly bond. Messy as hell sleeping schedule: staying up late, sleeping in late, insomnia, sleeping 10 hours, etc.
MERCURY IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Throat chakra probably needs a lot of healing. Could have a speech impediment early in life or be neurodivergent. They could also be judged very harshly (and unfairly) for their accent. Knows what people are thinking somehow and it freaks them out. Clairaudient abilities. Secretly very shrewd and cunning. Learned how to "play dumb" or "say less" early in life so people can't predict their next move. They have highly communicative Spirit Guides and they're always interacting with them but they may not be consciously aware of it. Natural channelers or mediums. NOTHING is a coincidence to them. They see signs in everything because they're always in dialogue with the Universe.
VENUS IN THE 12TH HOUSE: The biggest sweethearts but may hide that by acting kind of "mean". The best connections for them are the ones who see the big softie under the tough exterior. A lot of powerful feminine Spirit Guides around them. May also be very connected to love/beauty goddesses like Aphrodite or Freya. Is either seen as a goddess type or has a strong romantic relationship with a partner with big goddess energy (regardless of gender). Major Twin Flame vibes. Major soulmate connections. A divine counterpart could spiritually awaken them or even act as a guide (in human form or in the Spirit Realm). Art = healing. Could make their best art about the one they love or in collaboration with them. Heart chakra blockages that must be addressed.
MARS IN THE 12TH HOUSE: A dormant volcano that rarely explodes but causes total devastation when it does. Recurring nightmares that may haunt them through adulthood. Might be incredibly drawn to "scary" art: horror movies, heavy metal, grotesque visual art, etc. Would SERIOUSLY benefit from taking up boxing, self-defense or any kind of martial arts. As a teenager, they probably convinced adults they were perfectly well-behaved all while secretly drinking, having sex or smoking a lot. Becomes more open about their "bad behavior" with age. If they don't let themselves rebel, they'll implode/break down/become very destructive. Probably needs to heal their sacral chakra. Knows how to fulfill all their partner's sexual fantasies/desires but needs to express theirs.

JUPITER IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Knowing that abundance is not just about money. They have an abundance of many spiritual/emotional/creative blessings (love, inner peace, talent, psychic abilities) and financial abundance follows. People constantly being jealous of them and they're just like, "Jealous of what?" Their humility and belief that everyone can win brings them more blessings. Incredibly inspirational. They make people want to be better versions of themselves. DREAMERS. Figuratively and literally; their actual dreams are like nightly movies. Constantly rescued or kept out of trouble by their Guides. Very active spiritual life. May start life very religious but benefits from exploring lots of spiritual paths.
SATURN IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Somehow super-grounded and very otherworldly, at the same time. Most likely to make skeptics see the truth or value in spirituality or psychic phenomena. Some may claim to be skeptics themselves but that's either just a phase or what they tell themselves to cope with this reality. Very powerful and natural psychic gifts that they may resist, dismiss or fear until they're called to embrace them. Although they see themselves as a hot mess, a LOT of people look up to and admire them. Major "older sibling" energy (regardless of if they actually are a big brother/sister or not). Also, "wise mentor" energy. VERY divinely protected. They have a lot of masculine, formidable Spirit Guides who do not mess around when it comes to them. One or two of their Guides or just a compassionate mentor may play a fatherly role in place of their father figure in this life, who could be absent, passed on or emotionally checked out.
URANUS IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Highly clairvoyant. As artists, this makes them ahead of the current trends and very cutting-edge. They could also have predictive dreams and visions. Raven Baxter vibes (including the chaos and calamities). Very good at convincing others that they are straight-laced or "normal" but the weirdness eventually slips through. Might be a model child and save all their rebelliousness for adulthood. Or they could be a model citizen but totally wild behind closed doors. They stand out through either controversial artistic statements or a very unique fashion sense. Really sensitive to mental health issues. Kind of like medication in human form; can help stabilize people's instabilities.
NEPTUNE IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Virtually hypnotizes people, without even trying. They have a striking beauty that is more about their aura/energy than looks (even though they may be gorgeous). Magical, mystical beings. A fairy, elf, mermaid, etc in human form. Often feels burdened/cursed by the pedestal others put them on. Humbly owns their flaws/faults while others are like, "Nah, you're kind of perfect actually". Seen as an angelic presence or guiding light to those they influence. Can go to some DARK inner places but can also heal/redeem themselves. Extremely psychic and trusts their intuition. Third eye and crown chakra are wide-open. Spirituality is the air they breathe. Highly connected to their past lives and were most likely artists or spiritual teachers in previous lifetimes, repeating those skills in this one.
PLUTO IN THE 12TH HOUSE: Often has to play the villain before they can become the hero. Get accused of absolutely untrue or unfounded things by people who are threatened by them. Can develop a very "bad reputation" that hides the fact that they're actually really nice or level-headed. However, they secretly enjoy being feared so they may encourage that illusion around them. Many of them have natural, powerful witchcraft abilities, due to a past life or more as a witch. As a result, they may be incredibly drawn to the occult/paganism or be one of those intense "that stuff is evil and demonic!!!" types. Their Spirit Guides are forces to be reckoned with, delivering retribution to their enemies yet also giving these people "cruel to be kind" lessons that change their lives. Walking bullshit detectors. Forces people to deal with their hidden truth but become more subtle and graceful about it with age.