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Huh, well that just makes this whole fiasco worse. He's also white!
So, fun facts about the Bright Family
They're Hebrew.
They're ethnically Jewish.
Almost all, if not all of them have red hair.
Evelyn (Mom) is Muslim.
Almost all of them are some form of disability representation.
None of this excuses what Duck Man did, nothing can. But overwriting the Hebrew, Jewish, disabled son of a Muslim woman in a position of power with a white brunette is a bad look
Also it wouldn't be "0963", just 963.
Um... heyyyy... maybe choose a different new character to replace Bright...
Warcraft has a whole fuckton of money right now so I would reeeaaaally advise against naming a sneaky, sus af redhead...
Elias.
Shaw.
A SNEAKY. SUS. REDHEAD.
Almost the exact same name as Blizzard's SNEAKY SUS REDHEAD who they will probably defend with their lives because if their representation goes out the window, *DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUH* less money
All I'm saying is please don't accidentally get sued for plagiarism
My salt is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Y'all know Winx Club?
Y'all know Aisha from Winx Club?
Y'all know Rainbow, the company that made Winx Club?
Well, Aisha is a dark skinned, girl, here'a what she looks like
I know what you’re thinking “but Musu, what’s so wrong with her?”
LOOK AT THE BULLSHIT RAINBOW IS TRYING TO PULL NOW
No, that isn’t Bloom. Those are all official images of Aisha and I’m losing my shit
I dare some of y'all to defend this, I fucking dare you
Honestly if you use any drawing program with an eyedrop tool you don't have any excuse.
if you use clip studio paint you have no excuse to be doing whitewashed fanart. all you literally have to do is hold down the pen onto a picture of the character you want to draw and boom you have it. you have their skin tone. simple as that.
Are the clones whitewashed in The Clone Wars and The Bad Batch? Absolutely
I support creators that attempt to correct their skin tone but I feel like I should address the other extreme.
Temuera Morrison, the live-action clone actor, is Māori. They are native to New Zealand. Tem is not white, but he is also not black! He is indigenous to New Zealand.
This is Tem as Jango Fett in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones (2002):
With this reference in mind, both of these images are concerning to me:
Trying to bring justice to obvious whitewashing is one thing, but black-fishing is another. Both are harmful to POC communities and I’d just like creators to be mindful.
Thank you
I don't know what to say, but that is not the same skin color. These are only one shot apart, so the lighting isn't different either.
I already knew that the whitewashing was bad, but they really keep outdoing themselves. And even between the clones, as if they're not supposed to look the same.
Echo is the worst obviously but i guess he's supposed to have lost all his melanin, even if it doesn't work like that.
Omega with the light blond hair is really just a little white person. They could at least given her some black hair, but i guess you can't join the bad batch if you have black hair (none of them have black hair).
I don't want to say anything about Kanan, it's just sad.
At this point i really want to thank all the people who make edits of the clones with their actual skin tones.
calling tyene sand white instead of mixed because of her fair colouring, is a big fat fuck you to poc’s{whether mixed or not} who are fair, telling them that their heritage doesn’t matter because they aren’t dark xoxo
Rant Time:
Okay, so I have seen some posts circling around Tumblr defending white-washed fancasts of the Sand Snakes, particularly Nymeria and Tyene. They try and justify the white-washing by saying that Nymeria is described as having “milk-pale skin” and Tyene as having green eyes and blond hair. First of all, George RR Martin has said that Nymeria looks like Janina Gavankar:
She is most definitely not a white woman, and is 100x hotter than Gemma fucking Arterton wearing brownface in the Prince of Persia. . Fancasting a white person to play a mixed character erases part of their identity, and that shit is fucking racist. A lot of mixed-race people can be described as having milk-pale skin, but that does not make them white. Case in point:
All of these people have milk-pale skin and are mixed, not white. Similarly, having blond hair and/or blue or green eyes does not automatically mean a character is white:
A large part of Tyene’s identity comes from being the daughter of a Dornishman. She should be played by a mixed actress in order to reflect that. I am fine with a white-passing mixed woman playing Tyene, but Gemma Arterton, Jennifer Lawrence, and Katie McGrath are not mixed and are therefore inappropriate choices for Sand Snakes/Martell women.
Seriously, stop using white actresses for these characters. Literally every major character in the series outside of Dorne is white. If you want to use Gemma Arterton, Jennifer Lawrence, or Katie McGrath in your fancasts so badly, use them for characters that aren’t from Dorne. I think that all three of those actresses could work as Lyanna Stark, Asha Greyjoy (since so many people hate the actress on the show), or Val. I also think Lawrence and McGrath could work as Mya Stone. You should use women of color to represent the Sand Snakes/Martell women. Please just fucking stop with the whitewashing.
i hate how inconsitent damian's features are, because of which his brown features are not potrayed many time even if its the same run where he was , or the writer knows damian is brown, as he was in his previous one, but nooo we give you white blue child with tim's haircut. biut its not just that its his everything. dose he have a round face or a rectangle ish one?, dose he have a button nose, a hooked roman nose, a big round button nose ,a smooth nose? is his eyes green,blue, or brown? is he dark brown, light brown, olive skined,white, or snow white? dose he have wavy short spike,spiky hair or a bowl cut or longer hair?
when people call out this inconsiteany people make the weirdst claims like" he is clone of bruce"," he is biracial biracial can look white", "he was never that coulr", "whats the big deal".
sure biracial kids can look like one parent more tahn other, but damian is so inconstent so when his potrayed which brown features and then not it feel- no it IS WHITE WASHING. iam not arabic but i am brown and i dont like that its so icositent, iam not even in a place whwere i am will be discrimanated for skin couour, well i would be berated indians do be like that but the point is i feel bad that a brown cahrecter who can look like me, is being changed agin and again to make him look moe " relatable" and/or sellable.
its not nice.
I found more.
I honestly don’t know what is fucking worse, Boris of the Snow or non-Asian artists drawing Asian OCs and characters with ‘it’s not racist, it’s my style’ CHINK EYES- I see this mainly happening w/ non-Asian artists that drool over underaged K-pop boys
Seeing "realistic" fanart of anime characters
Big Hero 6 and Whiteness
I love Big Hero 6. Whenever I rave about it to my friends, one of the first things that I talk about is how incredibly empowering it was for Disney to finally feature an Asian American lead in a modern setting. You know, because very few stories actually feature characters of color, let alone Asian characters. (http://timemachineyeah.tumblr.com/post/58648290519/this-is-a-jar-full-of-major-characters)
So when I saw the characters and the cast, it was clear that Disney went the extra step to avoid whitewashing the voice actors, which made me feel all warm and tingly inside. You know, because it's clear that portraying diversity wasn't some haphazard afterthought. It was active and deliberate, which is just awesome.
But when I read reviews and articles, many claimed that Hiro and Tadashi were half Asian and half white.These statements annoyed me greatly. Why did they have to be half white? Who was actually making these claims? And where was the evidence for this? To me, there was no reason to make the Hamadas white. Aunt Cass may have been white, but she could have married the brother of their father for all we know, so the fact that the Hamadas were raised by someone white should not be the slightest proof of their race.
Most reviews and reports were unsurprisingly written by white bloggers or columnists, so it's not a surprisethat they would try to project whiteness onto Hiro or Tadashi. But in fact, there is not a single statement made by Disney that confirms whether Hiro and Tadashi are half-white. While I do believe that Hiro and Tadashi were originally conceived as biracial characters, keep in mind that many of Big Hero 6's characters were also conceived as being a different race as well.
From comic to drawing board, Asian characters were turned white, black, brown, and then Asian again. Aunt Cass was Asian turned white, GoGo was Asian turned white turned black turned Asian again, Honey Lemon was Asian turned white turned Latina, and I can only speculate what Wasabi's and Fred's various designs might have looked like during their early stages. Clearly, there was much race-bending, and indeed much of it was whitewashing, but considering the final project and Disney's efforts to find matching voice actors (more on this soon), I am compelled to believe that Disney is intentionally being ambiguous.
I am not trying to discredit the experiences of biracial people. They go through many of the same hardships that we go through, and it is only right to empathize with their struggles. But at the same time, it is important to acknowledge how it is problematic making the Hamadas half white:
"In many instances of yellowface, the character is in fact of mixed race, hence suggesting that mixed-race offspring have a whiteness within them which white actors and white audiences can empathize." - Asian Americans and the Media by Kent A. Ono and Vincent N. Pham
Considering how Disney cast Daniel Henney and Ryan Potter, it's entirely possible that the Hamadas were, indeed, intended to be biracial. But in the comics from which it is based, Hiro is full Asian, so it strikes me as odd and unnecessary for Disney to discredit their own efforts on diversity by whitewashing their protagonist. Also consider the ways that Aunt Cass' character was changed: first she was Asian, and then she was white; first she was their mother, and then she was their aunt – and all of these at different times. There is not a single bit of evidence that definitively establishes Hiro and Tadashi's race, and Disney has only remained silent on this issue.
While it is true that the voice actors and animators have stated that they drew on their experiences of being biracial, it is also part of the creative process and none of them actually go as far to claim that the Hamadas are a certain race. Deciding on the Hamadas' whiteness is left to us, and while it may be disappointing and problematic for many Asians, I still find it a fascinating step that Disney took in the right direction.
Disney wanted all people to relate to Hiro, and there is no doubt that Disney was especially concerned with their white audience's ability to relate to him. Although it is problematic, they are still Disney's main audience, and so Disney's ambiguity allows them to project a degree of whiteness onto him. Through this, biracials also can relate to Hiro, and I am very glad that they can. But for Asians like me, who are dying to see some representation in animated films – dying to see characters who are like me, and look like me – all it takes is a little trust that Disney did actually want to look after us.
And they don't make it so hard. Because look at what we have here:
Forget the significance of Hiro not realizing Tadashi is behind him, forget the significance of Tadashi being reunited with his mom and dad, and forget the significance that they are looking after him from behind – forget that these are all symbols that are far more relevant and important to the story.
It's Hiro and his entire family reunited in a single, fleeting scene, and, look, they're all Asian.
And, in the end, I'm not surprised, because Disney wanted all people, including us, to relate to Hiro.
(so go take out your wallets and start supporting this film like crazy because it's amazing)
No, I don't think Hiro's been whitewashed. At least that's what I hope.
But there's some evidence to back those hopes up. Here's what we know:
Aunt Cass likely married into the Hamada household, last names are traditionally passed from husband to wife. That means Hiro's dad must have had a brother, whom Aunt Cass married.
So this leaves the possibility that Hiro's mom is either white or Asian (or maybe mixed, we don't know).
We have no idea who exactly is in that picture behind Hiro. But it would be incredibly out of place for Aunt Cass to hang a picture of her husband as a child among the grown Hiro/Cass/Tadashi pictures. Of course it's a possibility, but that's just weird.
The kid even looks a lot like Tadashi. We also know that Tadashi is quite a few years older than Hiro, so it makes sense that Hiro isn't seen in it yet.
So I'm willing to bet that that's Tadashi and his parents right behind Hiro. Looking after him, even in death. Considering how the animators are the ones rendering and producing the film, if that's meant to be a symbolic scene, it's made much more poignant by making it colorless as opposed to all the other colored photos.
Finally got around to playing my Big Hero 6 DVD, and I'm 99.9% sure that that's baby Tadashi with Asian okaasan and Asian otosan behind Hiro.
Can we please say YES to no white washing? :D
On a side note, I understand that some of you think that they could be his grandparents, but please consider how that would change the impact of this scene. Would Hiro be reunited with his entire family anymore? Is this scene as poetic or meaningful if they are his grandparents? Does it make sense to portray Hiro's grandparents over his actual parents? Does a childhood picture of Hiro's dad/Cass's husband make sense in context of the rest of the photos on the wall? Wouldn't it make more sense if was a treasured childhood picture of Tadashi, given how Tadashi loved and thought of his parents often?
Yes, I completely agree that the people depicted could be his grandparents, but it's my honest opinion that that interpretation is not as profound and revolutionary as what it could be. In context of the movie, that scene becomes much more poignant and symbolic, and, in context of the real world, Hiro would become a much more relatable figure to all Asian American youth.
For many Asians, it would be comforting to know that we don't have to be white in order to be seen. It would be comforting to know that our identities have validity beyond being white. It would be comforting to know that whiteness needn't define our lives. This may be a small detail, but it is critical in so many regards
I have never been a fan of rejecting things that aim to further representation. Afterall, nothing is perfect, and it's not constructive to the conversation. If you find that something could be improved on, bring it to focus and provide an alternative. Wallowing in discontent without any action is just as bad as complacency. That being said, this post is simply my attempt at offering an alternative lens through which we can view a beloved movie. For all its flaws and weaknesses, I still love it for what it embodies. Big Hero 6 is a movie with a lot of heart, and beyond issues of representation, its story is universal: love transcends all obstacles, and what is lost need not be forgotten.
Read my thoughts on why this matters here:
http://lewion.tumblr.com/post/110247950255/big-hero-6-and-whiteness
My thoughts on why this is possible: http://lewion.tumblr.com/post/110248339070/no-i-dont-think-hiros-been-whitewashed-at
Why we should be critical: http://sunrisah.tumblr.com/post/101423965579/an-asian-american-i-used-to-be-excited-for-big
And the importance of remaining constructive: https://medium.com/thinking-and-rethinking-race/a-response-to-why-freshofftheboat-is-not-asian-america-s-saving-grace-9ff202edd54b
a lot of people are whitewashing Oluwande from Our Flag means death and it’s racist
left are 3 reference images of Oluwande in different lighting conditions and different facial angles
right are screenshots of of people’s art with swatches and commentary added to them
I’ve cropped the screenshots to include much of the important information and to make the screenshots less recognizable but the prevalence of whitewashing here is extremely high, many of these are in the very top of the tags and have an upwards of 15k notes
major areas of whitewashing I’ve observed: lightening skin, wrong color highlights/blush (makes the skin look ashy and lighter, see below for more info), wrong hair texture, making the nose thinner, straightening and lengthening of the nose, giving the nose a pointed tip
several of the drawings are in bluish lighting which yes, does de-saturate darker skin tones to an extent (as seen in the middle photo left) but the drawings with blue lighting still have pink highlights/blush so no this is not “just the lighting”
lastly, a lot of art significantly changed his face shape as well as making him considerably thinner
artists do better and everyone else, call this out when you see it
The before and after of the whitewashed Marvel hero Snowbird
History fail
I'm in the middle of doing research on medieval religions for my contributions that will be part of the new edition of Dark Ages Vampire. Because I want to avoid the fail of the previous edition that portrayed Abrahamic religions as the only religions in Europe (and even then Judaism and Islam were parentheticals at best), I started trying to Google non-Christian medieval religions. It's incredibly discouraging how many results come back with "Christianity was the only religion", and then go on to detail the history of the early Catholic church.
Yeah, okay. Tell that to the Celts. Or the Finns. Or the Norse. Or the Slavs. But, you know, I guess their beliefs don't count as religions now, because they didn't "win" that religious war.
Just a reminder that whitewashing ISN’T F**king cool.
Please block this person. Their idea of “Normal” Is completely awful. As someone who is not white irl this kind of stuff hurts people more than you realize and it’s frustrating.
They look better that way, not my fault you have shitty taste.
It took me a second to realize what you were talking about, but I got it. Anyways, I won’t apologize for not being racist like you. Whitewashing is racist. Racism, is dumb, and childish, and it’s killed a lot of people. At least I have a heart unlike you. Yours is just nonexistent. 🖕