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if I see another ‘the summer I turned pretty’ fanfic with the title ‘Cruel Summer’ I might just lose it

This is why I don't like Conrad or Belly very much. Like, they're both willing put themselves first and screw the consequences. I mean, Belly knew she was with Jer when she kissed Con, and instead of saying bro we can't be together I'm with ur brother, she dumps jer!! And then they expect jer to be fine with them dating immediately. Like no duh he doesn't want to talk to either of you!! Like I lowkey don't even ship Jelly anymore because I don't want Belly to be happy with either of them. I just was Jeremiah to be happy.

HATED this scene! Like still in high school Jere is sitting there struggling with the bills and taking care of his mom, watching her fade away everyday, and Conrad wants to talk about Belly? That's what's important in that exact moment? And for Conrad to sit there and tell Jeremiah how he wants to be with Belly made me scream with frustration. Jere has feelings for her too!! Why are yours more important? And asking if Jere took a date to Homecoming, like that magically meant he was over Belly was ridiculous. Then Conrad telling him that he loves Belly but they don't want Jere to hate them, it was too much. It's like all Conrad wanted to hear was that Jeremiah was “okay” with it, but we all know he was going to do it either way.

The magic of The Summer I Turned Pretty season 1 was how it started and I was rooting for the FMC and a random male character i knew nothing about and then by the end of the season they kiss and all I could think was NO.

I love breaking down hunger games and analyzing it, and I've thought a lot about the love triangle. Particularly how there isn't really one. How the love triangle was really just marketing, but it was always peeta and katniss. And also, Gale was always borderline toxic and possessive. If I compare that to TSITP...gale becomes Conrad imo, the way gale assumes that there is some attachment due to his care/protection/ whatever from the past, having issues that make the FMC feel needed and responsible to help, (I actual started writing this in June of 2023 and just stumbled upon it in my drafts so I'll try to finish what I was talking about) saying things to make the FMC feel guilty about choosing the other guy (even in small things, not even dating the other guy, but like talking to him), letting/making the FMC feel as though she's the only one who knows him/what's going on for him.

The thing about The Hunger Games for me is that Suzanne Collins was pointing out how powerful people are (and have always) pointing attention towards entertainment, and especially romance, to distract from serious issues. In the books, the love triangle is hardly present (again, IMO) but the movies proved the point by drawing out the relationships and marketing the movies for the love triangle, which led many people to believe it was just a dumb storyline about a teenage girl who can't choose between two guys uwu, when in reality it was a social critique, told from a teenage girl without criticizing or belittling girls in any respect, and taught a generation about activism.

That is the crucial different between the two, to me. Hunger Games was meant as a social commentary in ya fiction form, which got marketed as a love triangle. Summer I Turned Pretty really is about the love triangle.

Belly in the first episode is reading the Hunger Games, in the 4th episode in the flashback we see she's watching the movie, do you think there's a connection with TSITP love triangle?

Wow , great question. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen the hunger games… it wouldn’t be fair for me to make an analysis, but I’d like to think that Jenny never does anything unintentional. In season 1, Cam and Belly went to watch Sabrina at the drive in and the plot of the movie represents the triangle between Belly, Conrad, and Jeremiah. There’s connections everywhere. My sister has seen Hunger Games and she said that there’s not even a love triangle that present. I know that Jere loves Belly, but it’s not as present and deep like I think Conrad’s love is. From what I heard, it seems like Katniss and Peeta’s relationship had the main focus and the third person of the triangle was there to spark things up between them. Same goes for TSITP, Belly and Conrad are beyond teenage love. They’re represented as a love that will always find their way back, no matter the obstacles, they’re meant for one another. The gravitational pull between Conrad and Belly is infinite, the light shines most on them. Jeremiah and Belly’s love is platonic, as teenagers and young adults that can get confused with being in love, but when it doesn’t feel right—you’ll just know. I’d love to hear your theories and connections.

YALL CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW EPISODE OF THE SUMMER I TURNED PRETTY COZ GOD DAMN!!!!!!

Spoilers don’t read if you don’t want any

THE WAY JEREMIAH HELD BELLYS NECK WHILE THEY KISSED OOOOHHHH DAMN

suck it up Conrad it’s Jeremiah’s turn ✌️

Steve and Taylor?! MY BABIES!!!!!!

okay aunt Julia ain’t that bad….judged to fast 😂

I don’t think Jere had any right to be annoyed at Conrad for kissing belly. They weren’t significant others in any definition of the term, they had only kissed a few times, which he had done with several other people that summer. Jere hadn’t been hinting at all how he felt. In fact he had many opportunities to, at the bonfire before she met cam, but some other girl called him away and he went to flirt with her instead.

Conrad didn’t break up with belly at her prom, she broke up with him. He just wanted to go home to his mum and kept saying how bad he felt for letting her down on that night, he even asked her “don’t do this” but she left him. Conrad went home to his mum as much as he could, and we saw in season one how much he took care of her. But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t allowed to spend time with belly or that he should of spent that time with his mum instead, seeing belly and being supported by her was one of the only happy things he had in his life.

I do think that Jere needed permission to kiss belly after she broke up with Conrad. Sorry but, kissing your brothers ex, two months after they broke up and one month after your mum died isn’t something I believe is okay to do. Jere also does talk badly of Conrad, he tells belly that Conrad will break her heart, he also insults Conrad to his face and says he’s not someone he would ever want to know which is horrible.

He’s constantly telling people to grow up because that’s what he’s been forced to do, so he finds it difficult that others don’t have to do the same. He’s always been told by his dad and both mums that he has to look after everyone because he’s the oldest, even though it’s only by one year. That kind of pressure is insane for an 18 year old.

Him and Nicole were never exclusive or in a relationship, he does apologise for leading her on, and accepts accountability for that. But they were never exclusive, and Nicole even says that her feelings aren’t hurt, he just wasted her time. He shuts everybody out BECAUSE he puts them first, he doesn’t want to burden them with his problems. Which is why he doesn’t tell anyone about his mums cancer. I’m not saying it’s healthy or good, but it is coming from a place of care for others over himself. He’s been told he has to take care of them all, so he shields them from his problems.

His reaction and response to them kissing I feel was justified, they were kissing on his car, and campus, when they only broke up two months ago. And were together for at least six months and slept together. If you feel that you can rationalise Jeres reaction and say it’s normal for him to be pissed, when he had only shared a couple of kisses with belly. Then surely you can see why Conrad would be upset that his brother kissed his ACTUAL ex girlfriend. Who he had a serious relationship with.

No I very much see how Conrad being pissed that Jeremiah and Belly were kissing on his car is rational. I just feel that everything he said wasn’t justified. He slut shamed Jeremiah which is not okay. And I never said I don’t like Conrad. I understand Conrad. I just think that Jeremiah is better for Belly. Also the fact that the two of them slept together should have any impact on their other relationships. It was a special moment for them but does not mean they owe each other anything.

And I do think Jere being upset at Belly and Conrad kissing is valid too. Both boys have feelings for Belly so it’s going to be upsetting no matter who it is.

Jeremiah was very subtle with how he felt but if you remember the pool scene when Jeremiah is saying that he’s been waiting for his time. He had stepped back when she went after Cam and he stood back because he knew that Belly had been crushing on Conrad for years. But he felt that it was his chance to be something more.

The prom break up I do admit was very messy and unclear. Belly felt Conrad pulling away from her and thought he was breaking up with her. And Conrad wasn’t being very clear about the situation and he was walking people out because he was going through a lot. It was a bunch of miscommunication which is what I was saying in the first place. They communicated with each other poorly.

And I wasn’t saying that Conrad shouldn’t have spent any time with Belly, they were dating and I love that he went out of his way to be with her. But Jeremiah’s frustration of having to go through it (Susannah’s death) alone while Conrad was at school is also valid. And I know Conrad loved and cared for his mom but school took a toll on that. I’m not saying that he never went to visit his mom and brother but it was definitely rough on all of them.

Yes Jere does tell Belly that Conrad is going to break her heart, and we’ll be did. He was pissed that he was losing Belly to Conrad and that his mom was dying. But he never talks bad about him to other people besides that. And yes Jeremiah says some really cruel things to Conrad this season and I’m not trying to excuse him for this but Conrad did belittle Jeremiah’s emotions. When Belly told Conrad that Jeremiah had told Belly that he had feeling for them and that they had kissed, Conrad says that Jeremiah won’t care because he doesn’t take anything seriously and flirts with everybody. But when Jeremiah was “with” Belly he was very loyal to her.

And yes while Nicole and Conrad were never really official or exclusive they were still “seeing” each other. And being led on by someone for them to text somebody else you’ve become close to that what they said earlier was a lie and he really wanted to ask her. Also after telling Nicole that he was going to ask Belly ONLY because his mom was making him.

On the aspect of him telling people to grow up though, I don’t entirely agree with you there. Conrad might of had to grow up sooner than he should have but so did Jeremiah. Jere was literally handling Susannah’s medical bills and the insurance. Which no kid should have to do. But as somebody who went through something “similar” in a way where I had to grow up before I should of had to at 9 I can’t understand fully Conrad’s behavior.

And I do agree that the parents are way too hard on him but sometimes that comes with being the oldest, which doesn’t make it okay. But Adam (the boys dad) was also never so easy on Jeremiah either. He constantly compared them to each other and made Jere feel bad that he wasn’t athletic and that he wasn’t playing football.

Conrad walling people off was not entirely him trying to protect them. I do think it was his own coping mechanism though. And I mean a lot of people do it. But I understand how the people around him felt hurt by him when he did it. He should have told his mom that he knew about the cancer, that way Susannah not Conrad had to go through all that alone. And I do think that Conrad should have told Jeremiah about it as well but I also see how it’s not his place to tell him. But again I’m not saying Conrad is doing it to be mean but that’s how a lot of people first hand may end of viewing it.

Also I never said nor will I ever say that Conrad doesn’t put other people first it’s just in a very different way and people may not know it.

All I’m saying is that Jeremiah and Belly are the better couple. All three of them have their issues and flaws that they need to work on but they also have beautiful things about them.

i can't believe the "sometimes i think you're a little too good at being fine" "isn't that what everyone wants me to be?" scene exists and people STILL think conrad is the neglected one in that family.

I'm both Team Jeremiah and Team Conrad, so I always stay winning 😎. LOL, but I do love both boys even if I may complain about Conrad sometimes.