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Wait but what if...

Every time a Dark Side shows up a Light Side just takes them under their wing.

“But I’m eEeviIil~...”

“Nope, your my best buddy now! Just deal with it.~”

Because Patton totally protected and loved the heck out of Virgil, and now Virgil totally favors him over the others (though he still loves the others of course).

And now Roman seems closer to Deceit than any of the others... (Here’s hoping they become dramatic theater nerd buds yo.)

So if that’s the case, then does that mean Logan’s next? What type of Dark Side could he be close too???

 (I’m so excited man please let this be true. Let’s Steven Universe friendship our way through everything lmao.)

Okay but Roman and Remus both being Creativity and how they used to be one being until they were split in half is so interesting and breathtaking but also raises so many questions like:

When did the initial split occur? Did it happen during Thomas’ preteens or teens, when hormones and rapid growth managed to tear aspects of his personality further apart? Or how about when he first became a young adult, around nineteen or twenty or so, when the sudden responsibility of adulthood caused him to subconsciously reject certain aspects of himself in order to become a “better adult”? 

How did the split happen/feel? Did it occur gradually over time where Creativity had flashes of the different personalities until they slowly and painstakingly split in half? Or did it all accumulate into one big shebang where they were ripped apart in a single instant and were left staring at each other in the aftermath of the explosion in utter confusion and revulsion?

Did Roman really not know about Remus before this? Or has he suppressed any and all memory concerning his twin? Or perhaps a mixture of both, where he’s had vague memories of being apart of something bigger than he is but whenever he tries to reach out to it something seems to always mysteriously deter him?

What was the original Creativity like? Were they just a straight up fusion of Roman and Remus and a perfect combination of their personalities? Or were they their own character entirely, so much so if you had met them before the split that you wouldn’t be able to tell that Roman and Remus originated from them? {Also if Roman is the Prince, and Remus is the Duke, then was the original Creativity the King???}

Ooohhh that makes the splitting process even lengthier. A lot more angstier for the two I love it.

So he probably only saw him a couple of times after the split and then proceeded to distance himself entirely and avoid him whenever at all possible? Though Remus seems to know more about Roman (even referencing his love of Disney) so he probably watched him a bit more than Roman did him due to curiosity or something?

Yeah that makes sense. So like instead of half and half the split was probably more like 2/3 Roman or maybe even 3/4 Roman? (Maybe the one of the reasons why Remus seems so unstable is because he had less of the original being to start off with? If that makes any sense at all lol???)

Yesss! Now I kind of want a poster or card designs or something based of the three of them...The King, The Prince, and The Duke. That’d be so rad.

Okay but Roman and Remus both being Creativity and how they used to be one being until they were split in half is so interesting and breathtaking but also raises so many questions like:

When did the initial split occur? Did it happen during Thomas’ preteens or teens, when hormones and rapid growth managed to tear aspects of his personality further apart? Or how about when he first became a young adult, around nineteen or twenty or so, when the sudden responsibility of adulthood caused him to subconsciously reject certain aspects of himself in order to become a “better adult”? 

How did the split happen/feel? Did it occur gradually over time where Creativity had flashes of the different personalities until they slowly and painstakingly split in half? Or did it all accumulate into one big shebang where they were ripped apart in a single instant and were left staring at each other in the aftermath of the explosion in utter confusion and revulsion?

Did Roman really not know about Remus before this? Or has he suppressed any and all memory concerning his twin? Or perhaps a mixture of both, where he’s had vague memories of being apart of something bigger than he is but whenever he tries to reach out to it something seems to always mysteriously deter him?

What was the original Creativity like? Were they just a straight up fusion of Roman and Remus and a perfect combination of their personalities? Or were they their own character entirely, so much so if you had met them before the split that you wouldn’t be able to tell that Roman and Remus originated from them? {Also if Roman is the Prince, and Remus is the Duke, then was the original Creativity the King???}

Okay so...

So far the dark sides have all been associated with long, wiggly animals, right?

Deceit with snakes, which are scaly and hissy wiggly boys.

Remus with octopuses, which are wet and slimy wiggly boys.

And we normally associate Virgil with cats. Which are kind of wiggly. It hasn’t actually been confirmed though so hear me out---

Virgil with weasels! He weasels Thomas out of going to social events (which he probably does less frequently now but I couldn’t pass up the opuntunity). He fights a snake (deceit) like a mongoose (technically different animals but similar enough for the simile). Also! Weasels are basically just like...small noodle cats...

Anyways, just an idea I had. For your consideration and all that jazz.

So we all know that Remus is responsible for Roman’s weird “Naked Aunt Patty” comment BUT what if he was also responsible for Patton’s whole “Adultery” thing?

What if Deceit’s room is literally upside down and they have to walk on the ceiling? I know that’d be hard to pull off but...that’d be kinda cool???

Also Roman and Remus should totally share a room yesss.

Okay yea I know we're all hyped about the dark sides and remus and who the next new side will be but i wanna see Romans room! Logans room! Deceits room! Remus room! Will the creativitwins share a room? Would Logans room just look exactly like Thomas's current location because it would be logical or something? Would things be backwards, on the wrong side, would the sides switch places in Deceits room? So many possibilities!

Something Neat I Noticed...

So where most of the Sides stand it looks like they have just the usual one shadow. Where Roman stands, on the other hand:

His shadows always split into two separate ones. A foreshadowing for Remus, maybe? Speaking of Remus, the same thing happens when he’s in the spot:

But when they’re both in the spot they have one darker shadow, the one farthest away from the other, and one lighter shadow that almost blends in to the other:

Perhaps signifying that even though they’re split, they’ll always have at least some sort of connection? They both still represent Creativity of course.

Remus Angst Idea(s)

What if Remus is afraid of being left behind by the rest of the Dark Sides because he thinks that they all have redeemable qualities except for him?

Counter idea, what if Remus is afraid Thomas will end up tearing all of the other Dark Sides in half one day in order to keep their “good” parts and toss out the “bad” parts just like he did with him and Roman?

You are a genius. I just need you to know that.

Hold on, so if in Virgil’s room everyone gains eyeshadow, and in Deceit’s room, everyone theoretically gains scales, does that mean in Remus’ room everyone gains a moustache?????

Ooof yes I love analyzations like this.

Have I ever mentioned how the styling of the two creativity’s collars are indicative to how they handle things about themselves?

Like Remus for example:

His collar is popped open, he has nothing to hide, and he doesn’t even bother to lie about himself or to Thomas about the things that he feels. He’s honest, keeping nothing close to the chest.

While Roman on the other hand:

Keeps everything hidden. His insecurities, right down to the fact that he even has a brother in the first place....

....

Naaaaah, I’m sure it’s not important.

Oh my god yes. I kind of noticed this but I just thought it was my mind playing tricks on me or something. If there is a flashback episode I really want to see what that possible friendship was like.

* Starts chanting ominously * Flashback episode. Flashback episode. Flashback epi-

you know that brief soft moment that virgil and remus kinda share in dwit that kind of hints at a possible past friendship? this one:

I’ve been thinking about how that kind of friendship would function? bc virgil obviously finds remus pretty unsettling as far as I can tell, so how would that work? 

here’s what I think: virgil doesn’t really like remus’ ideas and the intrusive thoughts he presents to thomas. but remus doesn’t just represent thomas’ intrusive thoughts - he represents his dark creativity. and when you think about it, virgil doesn’t really seem to have a problem with things that are dark and creepy - in fact, he seems to like that sort of stuff! he just doesn’t like the idea of any of that ever becoming a reality.

but as far as remus and virgil being friends goes, I think that’s one area definitely something they could connect over. for example, I could definitely see virgil talking to remus about the kind of stuff he argues with roman about in ‘the dark side of disney’! idk, it’s just a thought, but I’d definitely be interested in seeing their past explored more!!

Holy Cheese-it, wait guys-

If Roman can control Thomas' left arm, and Remus is also Thomas' creativity, then can Remus control his left arm too???

Maybe only part of the time? Like joint custody or something? Like maybe when he's touching things he shouldn't be? -or when he masturbates-

Or does he only control a portion of it like just the hand part or EVEN BETTER just the fingers of it???

So if this...

Is the same robe as this one.

Then did Remus raid Roman’s or Deceit’s closet for it?

Wait does anyone remember that one headcanon that was going around?

About how all of the dark sides might have heterochromia like Deceit?

And we theorized that Virgil had one green eye based on his puppet which is such a cute yet sad idea cause he probably feels like he has to hide it to fit in and look less like a bad guy.

Well what about Remus??? Does he also have it and if so why would someone so outgoing and open booked like him hide something like this???

My working theory is maybe Roman actually has two green eyes instead of brown and Remus actually has one red eye. And they both started hiding them so they’re no longer associated with each other’s signature colors anymore. That’s the only reason I could come up with so far for why Remus would hide heterochromia. But idk about it and I would really like to hear if anyone else has any ideas for it? 

(Also since Deceit has a yellow eye and we theorize that Virgil has a green one it would nice if Remus had a drastically different color from them or something. Also his eye could have an octopus like slant to it!!!)

Deceit’s Next Impersonation Speculation

The order Deceit will impersonate the sides next is probably Roman, Remus, then Virgil. Or maybe Roman then Virgil if he won't impersonate someone he's possibly currently allied with.

I have a feeling he's saving Virgil for last either because it would hurt too much to impersonate him or it's a last resort impersonation that would hit the other sides the hardest. Or some angsty combination of both.

Also Roman and Remus are probably both emotionally vulnerable right now due to their 'brotherly reunion' and would be easy to impersonate if they're spending more alone time in their respective room(s) to recuperate.

And if there is an orange side he might be introduced too late to have a chance to impersonate. Or maybe he'll do both him and Remus as a joke once all the dark sides have been actually accepted. 

Though who knows maybe the Thomas and Friends team will come out swinging the hardest right off the bat and have him impersonate Virgil next. It would especially be damaging right now with where we left off in the main series timeline(Virgil revealing to Thomas he was a 'dark side').

What if the color wheel theory is not actually the side they're supposed to be the opposite of, but instead just the side they happen to dislike the most?

First off, in the color wheel, Green and Red are opposite. Roman and Remus are shown definitely not liking each other, Remus thinking he should be the main Creativity and Roman thinking Remus is just a lesser, worse version of himself.

Next we have Yellow and Purple being opposite on the color wheel, and Virgil and Deceit are shown practically hating each other. Virgil doesn't even like seeing Deceit, hissing whenever he shows himself. And Deceit uses any opportunity he can to poke at and belittle Virgil the most out of the 'light sides'.

[I know those screenshots are from the Bloopers but they sum up their current relationship perfectly lol.]

And finally, Blue and Orange are opposite on the color wheel! This could mean the next 'dark side', Orange, could be the side that both Logan and Patton will dislike the most. 

(Maybe Logan will even dislike this Orange side so much that it's hard for him to counteract them with Logic, leaving Thomas more vulnerable to their sway. If that is true, it might be why that 'dark side' is considered the strongest/'final boss'.)

(Also, this could lead further credibility to the Orange/next /’dark side’ being Procrastination theory, because both Logan and Patton have been shown disliking it before. Logan is obvious, with his rigorous scheduling. But Patton has also been shown trying to make Thomas a 'proper adult' by doing more things for himself {I.E. cooking for himself more} and Procrastination would definitely hinder that most of the time.)

[An example of Patton chastising Thomas for procrastinating from the Too Adult episode.]

Me, browsing the Thomas Sanders merch store: Man all of these keychains are so cute but I don't really use keychains and I have no money.

Me, looking at the Remus one: Wait a minute.

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE!

Remus is shown with heterochromia like Janus!!! :D