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tw referenced suicide, abuse. warning for tadca /dsmp /rp

When Dream sees the tower, he’s a little embarrassed to admit he panics.

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I wanna do like, a whiteboard fox rp of some dream smp characters with someone/s (Mine's tommyinnit mostly). If anyone is interested, hit me up!

Day 34:

Just two teens about to cause life altering crimes. Nothing could go wrong, right? :)

It's really interesting to be watching Tommy's VODs after Novemeber 16th. Previously I had only watched Techno's and then just seen clips and heard about the other events like Tommy's exile.

The VOD the day after he and Ranboo burned down George's house is so interesting knowing what happens. Like New L'Manberg was doomed from the beginning. When Tubbo gave Tommy probation, everyone literally made fun of him for it which kinda shows that no one cared what had happened except Dream. George didn't care his house got burned down. He was just annoyed he had to rebuild it. Dream was the only one up in arms about it.

Like yeah Tommy messed up and shouldn't have burned the house down but look at everything that's happened on the server to his house. Also did Tommy even know George was the king canonically? Like I know it because Techno went to fight him when it happened but it's never mentioned in Tommy's POV until he burns his house.

It's very interesting to watch the story build despite knowing the ending and parts of it.

Can anyone guess where I am in watching Tommy's VODs?

I will admit that I have been putting off watching this part of the story for a while but I'm one stream off where Tommy's exiled.

Someone either stop me or hit me up, I could go on a rant about the storytelling of the Dream SMP and how freaking cool it is. For being mostly improv with like a outlined plan, there is some cool stuff that just accidnetal happens that just adds so much depth.

Like I could write a whole essay.

How did you all survive watching this live!??!?!?! Like seriously!!!!

Not incredibly detailed but I'm still brainrotting over the little details of the exile arc so you guys get tiny imaginary Tubbo.

tommy asking dream if he’s okay in a genuinely soft voice right before dream destroys logsted has the exact same vibes as tommy reacting to dream’s big speech about how he cut off all of his attachments for power while threatening tommy and tubbo’s lives by saying “How don’t you hurt”

and it genuinely destroys me

/rp /dsmp

One thing I see C!Dream apologists do to defend exile and C!Dreams actions during the whole arc is that if C!Tommy didn’t blackmail C!Dream it never would’ve happened.

Like did we watch the same stream? Because they act like C!Tommy was the only one blackmailing that stream cause I’m pretty sure C!Dream was trying to Blackmail C!Tubbo into exiling C!Tommy. Like obviously doesn’t make it okay but dude your leaving out a huge bit of context to the situation.

AHHHHHH ALL I FEEL IS FEAR FOR THE FUTURE

Wow I don't like the sound of THAT

we all know quackity’s stream is gonna be kind of meme-y as opposed the the relative seriousness to tommy’s streams in exile, but thinking about it, this is the first outsider perspective we have of tommy’s exile! like we’ve seen bad and puffy stream giving him presents, but never when tommy is actually there.

this stream is almost like an opportunity to see if the people in lmanburg and other places are able to identify what exactly is happening to tommy, and maybe quackity’ll be that person, considering the kind of bad terms he and dream are on.

quackity knows manipulation because he was with schlatt, if anyone could figure it out i would hope it would be him

(i drew this a week ago, but then got sick and forgot to post, hah-)

been thinking about the exile

aggie party #2!!! watched the first exile stream :(

RaccoonInnit

This child just digs out a cave “room” under TECHNOBLADE’S house and starts stealing from him like a damn raccoon. He has no fear. (Or, more likely, is just very dumb...)

What do you think of the "Tommy was 9 in the independence war" thing i personally like it since i adds more reason why Tommy feels the need to resort to violence but the pet peeve of mine is the "Dream was 13" because that gives dream apologist a reason to defend him so that's why I raise the "Dream is a Cryptid creature and ages abnormally" theory :D

@taiyoandluna09 it's based on the fact that fundy said that there were 8 years between the founding of l'manberg to sometime after doomsday (I don't remember the exact date, but it was in the aftermath !), while tommy was canonically confirmed to be 16 during his trial leading into his exile when the terms for his probation/exile were set until he was 18 and he said that that was 2 years away (and again, when his 17th birthday stream was semi-canon)

the thing about that is, different streamers just kind of say things without talking to other streamers about it, and most of the time other streamers aren't even aware that it's been said lfjkdsa fundy especially likes adding strange time skips, for instance the 8 year thing came when he took a break after doomsday and canonized that his character had been gone for a full year soul searching.

sometimes this is unobtrusive enough that it doesn't Really matter (tommy has canonized that his exile lasted months, which other characters weren't really aware of at the time. but it doesn't really interfere with the timeline of anything that happened beyond making tubbo's lack of visiting read worse), but sometimes it can outright contradict or complicate other people's canons.

so the way I've taken to handling it is pretending everyone is in their own timeline bubble, kind of like wilbur's time dilation in limbo. fundy experienced that period of time for 8 years, while any creator whose canon contradicts that has experienced that time differently.

on that note, wilbur and tommy have said that the pogtopia v manberg war took place over about 2 years, and while we can't be sure how long the l'manberg revolution was supposed to be, it was definitely much shorter. taking that into account with tommy's canon age being set at 16 when he was exiled and I think you can read him as having been 13 to 14 during the revolution. which is much more reasonable than him having been 9 fjksldaghjfdsa

the thing about 9 year olds is that you very much so know that they are 9 years old. you wouldn't put a 9 year old on a horse, let alone lead them into battle. it changes the entire dynamic of the situation if people were letting a 9 year old fight a war and fighting a 9 year old In war. not that a 14 or even 16 year old doesn't have that problem, but it's much less exaggerated by comparison. someone who's half your height challenging you to a duel to the death reads different from someone who's just baby faced doing the same.

also that 9 year old would have to be jacked to hell to do the things that tommy did, which I do not want to think about.

so ! probable 13 to 14 year old tommy and tubbo based on the manberg timeline set by wilbur and tommy. which is plenty angst material while also being slightly more reasonable (slightly being the key term here).

as for dream being 13 (or in this case 17 to 18, which honestly seems pretty reasonable), it mostly just exists to point out how silly tommy being 8 reads but it's technically not based in canon. the minors are all the same ages as their characters because both the adults and the minors have stated that they'd be uncomfortable with minors roleplaying adults. but the adults don't really have that same restriction.

wilbur's character is currently in his 40's in canon and he has an adult child and philza is hundreds of years old. dream doesn't have a canon stated age as far as I'm aware (most characters don't, technoblade could be 21 or 210) the 13 number is based on dream the streamer's age rather than dream the character. maybe dream would've been 13 if tommy was 8, maybe he would've been 47, we don't know.

though for my last point, I do want to say that I don't really like the idea that we have to age tommy down to "explain" tommy's "violence." I really don't think it's necessary within the context of canon. this is pretty long so I'm gonna put it under a cut

stealing and griefing are completely normalized actions on the dream smp, and possibly in greater canon beyond that since it's normalized to the extent that it is here. tommy's house was griefed near daily before l'manberg was created (often times by dream) and his shit was and is constantly stolen. tommy's griefing and stealing is not only completely normal in the context of the world that he lives in, it's very often tamer than other people's, even before l'manberg.

when he felt like he'd gone too far in burning tubbo's base he apologized immediately and gave tubbo practically all of the diamonds he had to make up for it. this image of tommy as having been selfish and having to learn to be better is manufactured by a fandom that doesn't seem to be aware of the climate of the server.

as for Outside of the griefing and stealing? the l'manbergians had a policy Against violence during the original l'manberg war, which was broken Because of the smp. and still it was nearly completely one sided. the smp were the ones destroying bases, stealing supplies, spawn killing, and enlisting spies. and tommy very famously used his Words to end the war. (tommy also got his position as wilbur's right had after dream grieffed tommy's base, and tommy deliberately refused to do the same to him after wilbur gave him permission to do so as a test).

and in pogtopia v manberg tommy did his absolute best to Avoid violence and killing and to protect his friends. he literally Constantly was enforcing the idea that nobody had to get hurt, nothing had to be destroyed, they just needed to take their home back. it was the key conflict between him and wilbur + technoblade.

and what came after that?

trauma from wilbur's death, trauma from months of abuse in tommy's exile, trauma from his falling out with techno, trauma from doomsday, trauma from the disc war finale, trauma from being trapped with his abuser for 3 weeks and killed for months, trauma from watching ghostbur die right in front of him and having someone he trusted turn around and threaten him for it.

tommy isn't an innocent angel that can do no wrong when he's in the right state of mind, but he doesn't intentionally hurt anyone when he is. it is Only when he's experiencing overwhelming trauma that he doesn't know how to process or escape that he lashes out, and even then that lashing out is made into more than it was pretty consistently by the fandom.

tommy killing jack during his exile is obviously, Uh, Pretty Fucking Bad. but tommy was completely unaware that jack had actually died. people killing each other Non-canonically to make them lose their things is a dick move, but it's also pretty normalized behavior on the smp. tommy immediately apologized to jack and tried to explain that he was in a bad headspace because he'd caught up to what he'd done and immediately regretted it, but it obviously wasn't enough because tommy thought he was just apologizing for making jack lose his things while jack had been Murdered.

this would continue and worsen when tommy stayed with technoblade and started lashing out more consistently. the important thing to understand about this is at this point tommy has recognized that he's actively suicidal and that dream had been there to watch him, but he had Not broken out of dream's abuse completely. he went back and forth on whether or not dream was his friend, whether or not he wanted to see him. he Knew that he was confused but he didn't know what to do about that.

and the thing is, tommy's lashing out is due pretty much completely to the fact that dream had done the work to convince him that everyone he's ever loved has never cared about him, which his reactions to oscillate between self hatred (and outright suicidal tendencies) and anger. technoblade outright encouraged both the idea that his friends were bad people And that anger reaction. their entire team up was framed in terms of getting revenge and techno completely reinforces this idea multiple times while trying to convince tommy to help him destroy l'manberg.

tommy leans into more violent tendencies both has a coping mechanism to help him Survive (pushing that anger and hurt outward rather than inward) and worsens those tendencies by the enabling of an adult figure who at that point was his only source of stability like, At All.

that said, even though he did bad things while he was with techno, he Never got to the point where he would've been okay with someone dying or with destroying l'manberg. even with the scene that technoblade tried to convince him to do exactly that he clearly and obviously emphasized that l'manberg was his and tubbo's home, how he didn't want them to get hurt. he obviously didn't Want l'manberg gone, but he wanted the friendship that techno offered him in exchange for helping destroy it.

he pulled himself out of this spiral when he hit his own limits, when he said something that hurt tubbo in a way that struck a cord with him. at which point he Immediately apologized and gave everything up to switch sides. he'd go on to continue apologizing, making the active choice to grow and choose kindness over revenge, leading up to both doomsday and the disc war finale. it was the entire Message of the disc war finale, they were saved because they made and tended to connections with other people.

tommy went out of his way to find and return mars to sapnap during doomsday, he apologized for ever making him lose something that he loved just because he'd been hurt. and he asked sapnap to join them, which he did. and when dream tried to make one last rush towards tubbo when everyone came out of that portal it was Sapnap who stepped between them and told dream to "Get away from them."

after that tommy went out of his way to try to avoid any conflict and violence. he roleplayed animal crossing while building his hotel for a month, multiple characters tried to pull him into the egg plot and he refused because he didn't want to make people upset. he was legitimately just minding his own business while people plotted his death around him.

the One instance that people point towards after this point is pussboy, and honestly at this point I'm going to kill that cat myself.

here's some things to note: 1: killing pets is normalized on the server, it's not a very nice thing to do but it's very easy to do by accident because they aren't sentient and everyone is playing a video game. literally every single character has killed someone's pet, usually multiple (especially multiple if you're sapnap). dream killed mushroom henry in front of tommy's face, he's killed tubbo's bees in front of tommy's face. tommy had been actively Warning tubbo against showing dream that he cared about his animals because he knew that that dream would hurt them for that reason, which he did.

2: killing pussboy Was an accident. he was trying to get pussboy to move onto the floor, and the only action you have to try to move an animal in minecraft is punching. he Did say "that's what happens when you care about something," but that doesn't make the action intentional

3: dream had been retraumatizing tommy on purpose for an entire week without any way of escape. dream had a history of killing tommy's pets, destroying his things, and trying to take everything he loves away from him. he took all of tommy's friends away through isolation, and then tried to do it again by killing tubbo directly in front of him and putting him in a black box forever to shake around like a bug forever. tommy completely suspects that dream got him trapped there on purpose (which he's right about). "that's what happens when you care about something" is a Reaction to dream doing much much worse to him Consistently, it's tommy trying to get dream to understand even an ounce of the kind of pain that he intentionally put tommy through (and would Continue to put tommy through)

4: no, pussboy is not the last thing that dream ever cared about. dream systematically cut off every attachment he ever had outside of tommy specifically so his attachments could never be used against him, do you think that he's going to break that for a random cat and then Openly Admit To It without a second thought to make himself completely vulnerable to the one person that he is literally obsessed with having complete control over? no, no he would not.

dream's reaction was understated and he didn't bring the cat back to life despite obviously having the full ability to do so (he canonically brought henry back from the dead for his attachments museum, it was completely possible, meaning it was a choice not to). dream didn't kill tommy out of his grief for Tommy's Own Cat (that's why it teleported to the cell, it was his), he killed tommy because tommy questioned the validity of the revival book which was dream's leverage over tommy. dream Admitted to killing tommy to make a point when tommy was brought back.

so ! presenting this as uniquely violent and using it in constant meta to justify why tommy is a bad person is Completely disconnected from the rest of the server and from dream himself. we Are supposed to understand that tommy killing pussboy was a bad thing. however. what it's meant to tell us is that being trapped with dream puts tommy in a worse mindset and pushes him to do things that he wouldn't normally do. dream makes tommy Worse, which is something that tommy actively stated in those prison streams. his lashing out was due to the Extreme trauma of the situation, not any inherent violence that has to be explained.

so no, I don't think we have to say that tommy was 9 for his actions to make sense. tommy's actions are largely normalized in the world that he exists in and the points where we see him genuinely lashing out to hurt people are the result of genuine trauma that he's been trying to make an active effort to grow from, which he's Consistently made the effort to apologize. the only time he Didn't apologize for was dream, which he was a little distracted being murdered and then having his life and death held over his head.

and no, tommy trying to murder dream doesn't fall under this. he wants to kill dream because dream wants to use the revival book to torture everyone else, which is something that he's said outright to tommy's face while proclaiming himself a god. death was the worst thing that tommy had ever experienced, he doesn't Want dream to die and the doesn't think killing dream is the right thing to do, but dream Will hang death over everyone in the server if he ever gets out. so tommy sees killing dream as the only option, especially now that he's (rightfully) lost faith in sam and the prison. that isn't tommy being a violent person, that's tommy putting himself in a self-sacrificial position to try to save the rest of the server, Again.

exile arc but every day someone puts on a blonde wig and red n white t shirt and takes Tommy’s place as they all try to gaslight Dream

quackity: Hello it is me tommyinnit

dream: you aren’t tommyinnit and you don’t look or sound like him

quackity: *in a British accent* hello it is me tommyinnit

dream: tubbo I can see that it’s you

tubbo, wearing the ugliest blonde wig known to man: what? im tommyinnit. here I’ll prove it I just need some flint n steel and the location of your house

dream: are you ghostbur?

ghostbur: yes!

Phil: oh I forgot to tell you! Tommy’s street name is ghostbur. that’s why he said that :)

dream:

dream: oh hi “Tommy” why is your hair blue?

jack manifold, who didn’t own any other wigs: I’m going through a mid life crisis

dream: Ranboo I can see that you’re an enderman

ranboo, wearing a red and white suit: im tommyinnit. I remember everything. i can definitely swim mhm mhm

Dream: you aren’t even wearing the red and white. you’re just another blonde guy

purpled, a paid actor: wdym didn’t you know there’s only one blonde person ever. im tommyinnit

dream: technoblade what I meant to think of this

technoblade, wearing a sign that says ‘im tommyinnit’: well most people think I’m annoying at first

dream: you’re literally a pig

technoblade: that’s kinda rude to say about the British

Dream: how are you here. you’re dead.

glatt, who pierced the veil of life and death in order to make fun of tommy: no im tommyinnit. pogchamp or something

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c!tommy

Think about Tommy during exile thinking about will and tubbo celebrating Christmas while he’s alone with dream with his tree and on what is supposed to be a joyful holiday is spent with him getting beat to a pulp and dream walking away to go spend his Christmas doing something else and leavening Tommy there in the cold. Think about it

y’all don’t get c!tommy like I do