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Are we gonna talk about the magic pseudo-sex that Will and James had??
Dark Heir aka the book where Will has existential crisis after existential crisis
Suppose that’s better than Lannister sibling vibes.
I can’t be the only one who got squicked when finding out that Will and Katherine were brother and sister.
Also, I've finished reading Dark Heir... 😳
Violet: *unchains strange boy so he won't drown after he saved her life*
Will, who set a man on fire at 6 years old for the woman who once gave him a slice of pie: ask me to tear apart the fabric of reality and i would do it for you
Tokyo Mew Mew walked so that Dark Rise could run
I started reading Dark Rise and was immediately bombarded with a James, a Will and a Matthew. My brain is having such a hard time keeping a blank space because it has imprinted so hard on these names already.
currently going insane about all the dark rise / lotr parallels, thoughts not coherent someone send help
characters who very calmy do the most unhinged shit imaginable all while maintaining a perfect expression of blankness — but also they loose all ability to function on any level when they get horny (often) — like there’s a thin line between “many gears turning but I won’t let it show” and “no thoughts head empty” and they straddle it perfectly
this post is dedicated to James Herondale, Wil Kempen & Kel Saren
this is really funny
but also I’ll always have some grace for Visander based on the fact it’s heavily implied he was barely older than Will is now when Sarcean took him into his bed. It’s the same with the Crispy power dynamic situation. Like I’m not gonna defend the guy but I’ll always look at him with nuance. And I’ll always be rooting for the unexpected homoerotic situation they both got themselves in lol
they're the same person 😭
i didnt mean to find/list THAT many similarities! Help
Sandy portrait by DR shoujo dept @marzipanthots
The Shadow Kings aren’t coming for me
Just the vibes of a villain thinking that he's seducing the hero but the hero is actually the bigger villain and he's pulling the other villain's strings are IMPECCABLE thank you, I'll be dining out on this for weeks to come.
Just a fun idea; whomever contributes the first letter in the ship name is the top, applying this rule, who tops in your favorite ship?
An alphabet of old language in the “Dark rise” by C.S.Pacat
Or something like this…
Disclaimer: I am new in this fandom, so I will be really sorry if the same work already exists. I did not want to duplicate someone`s work. Also, please, correct me if I miss something or make mistakes!
And remember: it`s just a theory.
"There is no sense in strange inscriptions", I thought, when I saw it in books for the first time. However, last evening I decided to compare translations with pictures in the book and found out that this language was not as hard for reading as I considered. I`d like to share my ideas about this topic and, if it would be interesting, to discuss some moments, which I can`t explain right now.
Some rules:
The main axiom is that one letter in English is one letter in this language.
“Tails” of vowels are pointing upward in every case.
“Tails” of consonants are pointing downward in most situations. (not always)
All letters add up in a line. (Part of the ship, part of the crew).
A dash line helps with selecting letters and words, but not always.
Full analysis will be only about the first example.
The key: “Rassalon the First Lion”. (Chapter 10)
This phrase is the best start for a work, because there are a plenty of repeating letters in words. Аll what I need is to find similar elements and to highlight them different colors.
Step 1 — selecting similar letters
"Rassalon..." and other words
We have double S in “RaSSalon”, so it is easy to notice similar details in the beginning. S also in the “FirSt”.
Double S are between two A, so they might stand in the edges.
R is left alone in the beginning, but it will be in “FiRst”.
L — "Lion"
O—"LiOn"
N — “LioN”
"...the First Lion"
T — in “The” and “FirsT”
i — in “First” and “Lion”
!(why “i” is small I will explain later)!
Step 2 — non-repeating letters
New letters: H, e (!!) and F.
An analysis of other phrases
“He is coming” (Chapter 11)
New letters: C, M and G.
And "e", but I will tell about it later.
“I cannot return when I am called to fight So I will have a child” (Chapter 2)
New letters: U, W, D, V and I(!)
I and i are different. Why? In my opinion, it might be because “I” is a pronoun in this case.
“Enter only those who can” (Chapter 15)
New letters: Y, E, e.
E and e are different. Perhaps, it is because “E” in the beginning?
“The horn all seek and never find” (Chapter 15)
New letter: K.
The conclusion
the illustration of the alphabet
I`m very grateful to my sister, who painted all illustrations for my article.
The investigation amused me a lot even if the alphabet is incomplete. Information isn`t enough at this moment, so I hope the second part of book will give new letters and new rules of old language. This is the new reason why I am exited of waiting for the “Dark heir”. I hope, dear reader, you share my delight of this discover.
For enthusiasts I`ll leave examples, which I created myself, below.
For others — thanks a lot for your attention!
My examples for translations :)
The first example for practice
The second example for practice
The third example for practice
One hilarious fact, before I end
English is not my native language, so I read “Dark rise” in the first time in my language. And I have two different paper editions 2021 and 2022 years.
I decided to compare pictures in books and…
There are SAME ILLUSTRATIONS every time, when there must be inscriptions in old language. If there is a short phrase, they cut THIS ILLUSTRATION and left only the begining of it. In other words, it is one illustration throughout two books.
I could understand if they did it only in the edition by 2021 year, but they did not! As well it doesn`t fit in my theory, because most of letters are different than previous ones.
Now I have some questions for other fans:
Was this illustration in the first edition?
Do you meet it in other translations? (or is it the joke of my translation?)
What is the key, if somebody know?
I tried to translate it as I did it before, but it was the mess. Therefore, I am open to new ideas.
(it is a scan from my paper book)
Thanks for reading! P.S. If you decide to share my work, please specify my authorship.
Another old language inscription from the “Dark rise” by C.S.Pacat
Just reflections of decoding
Disclaimer: this is not an analysis, but thinking of it. Although I have not found the key yet, I decide to share my reflections. And I am needed in someone`s fresh eye, because it seems as I just keep going over the same ground.
And remember: this is just a theory.
an origin inscription from paper books
The introduction
According to the latest information from Tumblr, the difference between inscriptions in different editions is just an error. My previous analysis might be based on a transliteration, and I`m really confused which version of book edition is the latest and the truest (ebook in English and paper books in my own language). Maybe this mess happens because my eBook copy is an early edition and paper books are the latest. In this post I`ll share some ideas of decoding remaining inscription, but without “result”.
Important notices: all translations in English from the book.
“I cannot return when I am called to fight So I will have a child” (chapter 2)
“Rassalon the First Lion” (chapter 10)
“He is coming.” (chapter 11)
“Enter only those who can” (chapter 15)
“The horn all seek and never find”. (chapter 15)
Ways of decoding
I made a scheme of my reflections and wrote every main steps, so let`s start from the left hand.
Level 1 — working with elements
First of all, I decided to select elements as I did it before. There are 38 ones in this inscription, if the method works right.
Then I started with a well-known algorithm: selecting same elements and finding new things. Nevertheless, the rules from previous work we can`t take in attention, because we have no enough information. Therefore, elements cannot be named as “letters”.
Selecting same elements:
Level 2
Step 1 — decoding with known letters from the last analysis
Now let`s try to decode using an alphabet, which I had already made.
As result, there is mess, because words from uncovered letters have no sense, and other letters are unknown. This chaos don`t match with phrases, which should be decoded. Therefore, this way is not as practical as I suggest. However, we found new elements! In this picture, they are with the alphabet from last post.
Step 2 — creating an alphabet/another thing from scratch, it`s possible
In this way, I do not compare English version with old languages patterns. Just thinking of how translations can fit in one puzzle.
How I noticed, there are 38 elements in this inscription, also it mentions every time, when characters read something in old language. The obvious way is just to try to compare them. For example, can the number of letters help?
I cannot return when I am called to fight So I will have a child — 50 letters
Rassalon the First Lion — 20 letters
He is coming — 10 letters
Enter only those who can — 20 letters
The horn all seek and never find — 26 letters
None of phrase fits in the inscription, and I put aside the simple transliteration for good.
The new idea came to me: what if does the illustration contain all sentences? So let`s count words. (please, correct, if I made mistakes!)
I cannot return when I am called to fight So I will have a child — 15
He is coming — 3
Rassalon the First Lion — 4
Enter only those who can — 5
The horn all seek and never find — 7
30 is the final sum — again the wrong way.
I found one curious thing, when I reviewed inscriptions in the text: all translations go hand in hand with the full inscription, excepting one case – “He is coming”. The cut beginning of the phrase is only there, so it might be the key.
Now I`m looking for the pattern and trying to develop this idea. At this moment, all ways, unfortunately, lead to a dead end. Nevertheless, I have some new thoughts:
Each element is a sentence or phase and in future we`ll see more.
Elements are as hieroglyphs or something like them.
There is another writing system.
Level 3 — right hand: something more linguistic
This field is the darkest than previous, but more interesting. If the old language is a language, the author might invent it, or it has roots from already existing languages. In my opinion, the second variant is the closer to the case, because books have historical context. But I don`t exclude the possibility that I`m wrong.
Why is historical context so important for decoding? Knowing the picture of the world (real or magical from book), we can guess where the origins come from, and it`ll be the first lead in the “investigation”. Later it can become an Ariadne`s clew. Also knowing details of old world culture, we can compare them with other real cultures and find new parts of puzzle.
I know that this is fantasy and lots of things are not connected with reality, but why are there several historical things? It`s unlikely to be accidentally added. As well, I have not strike into the subject as much as it should.
One interesting fact connects with history, but...
Janissaries
If I am not confusing anything, but “janissaries” is a special name, not just “adepts”, how they were adapted in my own language translation. Janissaries were regular infantry of the Ottoman Empire (1365 — 1826?). Perhaps, it doesn`t matter, but it haunts me. Some facts of them seem a bit familiar with janissaries from book, but I can`t say for sure that it`s true.
Is it just coincidence and am I digging in the wrong place?
Maybe some references were taken from other fantasy books. For example, old language reminds Elvish language from Lord of the Rings, how some people say.
BUT I`m not close with true linguistic, so I start to explore it. Hope, there will be answeres.
The conclusion
I`m really grateful to my sister again, she painted all illustrations for my articles.
This post is about everything and nothing at the same time. I need to systematize beginnings of ideas, hope, it`ll help to get the ball rolling. As well I`ll be grateful, if somebody take a fresh look on these thoughts, because, I think, there is obvious things, but I can`t find them. I`d like to discuss all of these topics and to find answers.
I`m thinking about this post for two weeks. I have doubts how useful is it… but a negative result is still a result, right? I`ll consider it as intermediate step, which will grow up with new flowers of the theory in future. And it shows that the work is going on.
Thanks for your attention!
I really appreciate your support for my last analysis! Thank you muchly!
See you soon.
P.S. If you decided to share my work, please, give credit to me.
Working on Old Language🤧
How did I miss the moment, when this picture became my reality?
