Chat Noir Uses Humour (flirting, Puns: Ie: Ladynoir Banter) To Deflect From Talking About Sacrificing

Chat Noir uses humour (flirting, puns: ie: ladynoir banter) to deflect from talking about sacrificing himself and i have a feeling that's only going to progress during the rest of the season.

since he does it in Guiltrip (EP 11) as well after his suicide attempt.

which, yes, was a suicide attempt.

It was already established for them that the bubbles could be destroyed with their weapons far before he got touched by any of them, so why on earth would he active his cataclysm to use on one bubble. all that'd do is set off his detransformation timer and they already knew the bubbles were regenerating through the walls. it'd just be frankly dumb of him to active his power to destroy even a handful of the bubbles.

but this is about the moment in Lies not Guiltrip skfndmsk

it averts the conversation and it's easier for him to put on his clown mask and make her laugh than talk about his frankly suicidal tendencies.

(It was just earlier this day the Truth confession happened, he knows she appreciates his humor and clowning around.)

he did it in Lies after sacrificing himself. She's distraught afterwards, and before anyone's like well the suit protects them he wasn't that hurt y'all are just overreacting,, it doesn't protect them against just plain fucking gravity ????. He scaled up this building

and then went up farther on his baton before free falling down. the moment he passed through the dome he was paralyzed like the others, meaning that there was literally nothing, not even his hands, to catch him.

He either died on impact or he was stuck lying there in excruciating pain from the broken bones he'd have from hitting the ground at that speed.

and she's rightfully upset, she's scared and distraught and mad.

and he makes a flirty comment and diverts the conversation like he always does.

and what's she going to do? yell at him? tell him not to divert the conversation? and then what? they both know there isn't anything they can do to prevent this from happening and they both know it'll happen in the future. Where it be intentional or not, Chat's the more expendable one, he doesn't have the cure. Sometimes it's either him or Ladybug, and they both know he'll never let it be Ladybug.

He's putting her first emotionally, he doesn't want to cause her more stress than she's already under, and telling her idk how much pain he was in while stuck there paralyzed isn't gonna help. arguing with her about this, something they both know can't change, is just going to make things tense and uncomfortable.

He doesn't want to argue with her during the rare moments they have together.

He's said it before, and I think this episode made it clear with the BTS moments of his daily life as Adrien, the time he's got with her is the most fun he has outside of school. The only fun he has outside of school/schoolmates.

And he barely sees her anymore, she regularly misses their scheduled patrols and while he doesn't blame her for it, he's understanding of her role as the guardian and the stress that's come with it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt, it doesn't mean it isn't a harsh reminder of a constant thing he deals with, being alone. It doesn't mean that it doesn't suck that the one positive thing he'd been getting through the day for, through the interviews, photoshoots and everything, and she didn't show up.

and she's visibly struggling emotionally throughout the first three episodes, he knows that and tries to be there for her, but doesn't want their time together to be wasted talking about him and this issue. He doesn't want to be another thing that's stressing her out, beyond the inevitable sacrifice that they both know sometimes is unavoidable. (Gamer 2.0, Timebreaker, Dark Cupid, esc.)

And I don't take her smiling as a "aw the writers are dumb and gross men and don't know how to write characters and here's my two cents on the ooc dynamic i've talked myself into believing is canon"

I take it as her accepting that there isn't anything they can do rn, and at least he's okay. He's joking and flirting and he's alive. That's good enough right now.

That's a shame, there seems to be movie that they could take inspiration from though

An English person: E-

Me: Aren’t you from that country that’s planning to build a motorist’s tunnel under Stonehenge? Y’know? The fragile 5000/4000 year old Neolithic World Heritage Site? The place that yearly sees more than 800000 tourists? A site containing ancient human remains? The monument constructed by your ancestors painstakingly rolling 25 ton stone slabs across great distances employing no beasts of burden? Aren’t you guys trying to build a tunnel under that?

Anyway the only really strong theory I have about Ephemeral is that it's going to give Adrien as much reason not to want a reveal as Marinette has. I don't think that it'll remove a source of conflict, but I think it's going to completely reroute that conflict from being caused by Adrien's trauma (abandonment issues, etc) clashing with Marinette's trauma (PTSD from Chat Blanc). Instead, the conflict will be that they are both fundamentally terrified of the reveal -- at least until Hawk Moth is out of the picture, which doesn't seem as though it's going to happen for a long time.

Ok wait take back what I said bc how great would it be if THIS scene:

Isnt actually brought up until the END of the episode, and it’s not necessarily ladybug figuring out his identity but more so her falling in love with him like she did with Adrien and then the episode ends there and it’s not reversed 🤡

It’s interesting how Glaciator 2.0 again showed that there is a big wall between Adrinette at the moment, caused by the fact that Marinette is too caught up in her own crush to really see Adrien for who he is.

Specifically, her reaction to seeing Adrien be sad is more “awesome, I can enact my plan!” than sympathy. And when her plan goes wrong because she picked the wrong gift, she never pauses to notice that Adrien was really happy to get a pottery wheel from her, even if it was unusual.

The frustrating (and fun!) thing is that it was all so close to working. It already did work, back in Gamer, when she gave him her lucky charm! If Marinette hadn’t been so caught up in her fantasy, if she had looked at the actual Adrien and his actual feelings, she could have absolutely made his day here. In fact, she did end up cheering him up immeasurably when he was wearing black and she had stopped with all the schemes and was just herself.

This matches e.g. Malediktator. Marinette was so focused on the fact that Adrien looked hot in the ad to see how it was distressing him. Her crush is in the way of her actually seeing him.

Even though it’s popular, I would not describe that as her putting him on a pedestal. She is not in love with the model and the image (at least not just); she is aware that he’s a real human boy who sometimes feels sad and frustrated. However, she is too much in her own headspace to really see what’s happening with him. And that is, in various shapes and forms, the defining factor in the Adrinette relationship right now.

I agree!

I'd like to recommend this thread on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AmeliaSamson7/status/1453883987529719820?t=atSBsHmcN0v7s4ss-mmpWg&s=19

i really have absolutely no thoughts about what's gonna happen in ephemeral the one thought I have is the umbrella scene is just her having deja vu and not her connecting the dots