That's A Shame, There Seems To Be Movie That They Could Take Inspiration From Though

That's a shame, there seems to be movie that they could take inspiration from though

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Me: Aren’t you from that country that’s planning to build a motorist’s tunnel under Stonehenge? Y’know? The fragile 5000/4000 year old Neolithic World Heritage Site? The place that yearly sees more than 800000 tourists? A site containing ancient human remains? The monument constructed by your ancestors painstakingly rolling 25 ton stone slabs across great distances employing no beasts of burden? Aren’t you guys trying to build a tunnel under that?

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I like a lot of what you said, but one if the points I don't agree with is how Marinette perceives Adrien as perfect.

I believe she doesn't, like when she said she first assumed he was pretentious and superficial. But I do believe that she thinks very highly of him and when she compares herself to him, she continuously thinks very lowly of herself and only focuses on her flaws.

adrien and marinette are perfect for each other because they're both obsessive weirdos, except that marinette is flustered because she perceives adrien as someone perfect and therefore unattainable, so she's ashamed of how weird she is, while adrien lets his dorky side out as chat noir, but he exaggerates his behaviour because of social awkwardness, so his weirdness turns into a caricature instead.

chat noir telling marinette that he likes hamsters, too, when she admitted to her fantasies and how they stunt her actions in reality, was everything. i'm soft about how adrien is so sweet and non-judgemental that he's the one person who has never laughed at her social ineptitude, has validated her anxious spirals instead of dismissing them as ridiculous, and has patiently listened to her when she messes up her words. the only time he has ever interrupted her was when he thought she was being unfair to herself. goddamn it, luka made fun of her stuttering when they met. in comparison, you can totally tell that chat noir thought marinette's 'i have three suns' confession to be a little ridiculous, but he was nothing but supportive.

the things marinette perceives as her flaws are the things adrien likes about her, or even has in common. he didn't think that her fantasies are stupid. i'm just... glad at how he doesn't dismiss marinette's feelings and ideas and takes them so seriously, when both the show and the fandom haven't done that.

I like what you have to say and I'd like to include my thoughts on Felix Chat Noir.

Actual question for y’all: is there any official confirmation that the leaked Catwalker concept art is for the villain of episode 23, Kuro Neko, whose name was changed? Or is that an assumption made by unofficial sources spreading the art around? And is there any confirmation that the character will appear in episode 23?

My first thought upon seeing this was “Felix”. Like he took the miraculous from whoever had it last and used it himself. My first reaction to the name “Catwalker” was like “skinwalker” which reminded me of the evil impostor act Felix pulled in season three, but then I realized that that was pretty dumb since that’s probably not what “Catwalker” is a play on. Plus, if Felix kept going with the impostor thing, why not make himself look more like Chat Noir? I get changing the design so that young viewers aren’t confused but the characters are due to in-universe magic, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. What does support it being Felix is that he’s supposed to appear in three episodes this season, all three of which we’re yet to see, and when this art (censor-blurred) was leaked in Lindalee Rose’s video, most people jumped to Cat!Felix.

My second thought: whoever this is is trying way too hard to look like Adrien.

I think my favorite theory, true or not, is that this is literally just Adrien again. For some reason, he loses his miraculous. Gabriel gets it in Ephemeral, but maybe Ladybug gets it back without permanently learning Chat’s identity, and needs to choose a new cat in an emergency, so she chooses Adrien. Maybe she does it because of her crush, or maybe Luka’s trying to lowkey push her, but Adrien thinks he can’t reveal himself, so he redesigns his hero persona. This leads to him having his bangs cut a lot more like his civilian self, and his name, Catwalker, being a pun on his modeling job. He chooses surface level traits that Ladybug would know about the famous Adrien Agreste to hide that he’s actually Chat Noir. My doubt here is that the pose of that 2D concept art is different from both his Adrien concept art pose and his Chat one. The concept artists typically reuse bases for the same characters, and I don’t recognize this one, although I haven’t seen many characters’ art.

There’s a popular theory going around that this is the “new visitor from the future” Winny mentioned once, and that he’s one of the future Adrienette boys. That theory is pretty cute and interesting, but this character’s face looks exactly like Adrien/Felix’s, and the character designers are pretty good at not making kids clones of their parents. Plus, if Adrien doesn’t want anything to do with modeling when he grows up, what would make his kid be “Catwalker”? I’m pretty curious about the visitor, but I’m not sure this is it. I don’t think this is future Adrien either, because he looks young and, once again, is trying very hard to resemble surface-level present Adrien.

About Kuro Neko

I’m not giving up on the sentimonster idea because the Zag influencers have said time and time again that Kuro Neko is the villain of the episode, just like every other “name” episode title in the show. If Catwalker really did get changed to Kuro Neko, he’d have to be evil, excluding the future-son-coming-to-help-theory or him being Adrien, unless Gabriel gave him the miraculous he stole and is forcing him to follow his evil plan.

This, or Cat!Felix, would be really interesting imo, and I’d love to see some angst and big brain plays. But as many have asked, why the Japanese name? This guy seems to be white, and there’s no component of Catwalker’s design that references anything Japanese.

What do have Japanese names are Mayura’s sentis this season. Optigami and Hack-San were both pretty smart plans, all thanks to her. My headcanon is that she’s been taking Japanese on Duolingo while on bed rest lmao. What also ties into Japanese culture is this character who was spoiled in a Miraculous World video, which reminds many people of a Japanese lucky cat figurine.

I’m pretty intrigued by the spoiled models all around, and I love reading everyone’s ideas. Lmk if anyone would like analysis posts about any of the other leaks, but right now I mostly want to know what information has been officially confirmed about them and what is just conjecture. I know that’s pretty hard to place when these spoilers were leaked illegally and Zag wants to cover them up, but if anyone knows, please let me know.

Edit in conclusion: to be clear, the theory I’m leaning towards the most as of right now, (being true based on what we know, not what I want to happen) is that Catwalker is Felix pretending to be Adrien using the cat miraculous. The concept art pose is what throws me off of the “Adrien using the cat miraculous but pretending not to be Chat” theory the most, as much as I like it, and the character having Adrien/Felix’s exact face plus the model pun name is what throws me off the “future son” theory.

Being a Marinette Stan and an Adrien stan at the same time is actually really easy to do. You see them as two teens that can make mistakes and learn. Also, crucial step, do NOT demonize either one of them.

Like being a Marinette stan doesnt mean you have to hate adrien.

Being an Adrien stan doesnt mean you have to hate Marinette.

If you define being a stan based on who you hate more than who you love, than Clearly you are not a stan, but a salter.

Ok wait take back what I said bc how great would it be if THIS scene:

Isnt actually brought up until the END of the episode, and it’s not necessarily ladybug figuring out his identity but more so her falling in love with him like she did with Adrien and then the episode ends there and it’s not reversed 🤡