Remember When He Did, It Was The First Umbrella Scene And That Was When Marinette Fell For Him?

Remember when he did, it was the first umbrella scene and that was when Marinette fell for him?

You know, I'm thinking about it, and as much as Marinette never looks for Adrien's inner workings and thus never sees him for who he really is, there's another side to that -- even if she was looking, she wouldn't be able to see it, because he does not want other people to see who he is. He doesn't think he's allowed to be true to himself, or he's afraid of how people will react, or or or, it doesn't matter. Fundamentally, Adrien has not shown his whole self to anyone, not

We know this, because that's exactly the reason why Adrigami imploded.

"Marinette doesn't see who Adrien is on the inside" is as much caused by "She isn't looking" as it is by "He isn't showing her."

Ok wait take back what I said bc how great would it be if THIS scene:

Isnt actually brought up until the END of the episode, and it’s not necessarily ladybug figuring out his identity but more so her falling in love with him like she did with Adrien and then the episode ends there and it’s not reversed 🤡

I am so happy that in TYoOL 2021 I was able to find more people my age still into ML. I was on the hype train from the very beginning with some buddies but fell out of the fandom around s2 due to irl stuff. Due to someone I followed way back in the day starting to post again I recently rediscovered my love for the show and I have been scouring Tumblr for people to follow since.

Anyways guess what I'm saying is thanks for being cool and I love your art style! If you have any follow recommendations for the ML fandom I'd love to hear them~

Aw this makes me happy! And thank you so much for the kind words 🥺

Here are some great people in the ML fandom! I was gonna divide them out by artist/fic writer/gifer/meta writer/memer, etc., but most people wear many hats lol so here's just like a good starter pack (some of these blogs are multifandom but still post a lot of ML and some aren’t currently active but have a lot of great content you can look at!)

@aerequets

@alteanroyals

@amimons

@anna-scribbles

@art-the-f-up

@botherkupo

@bugaboo-n-bananoir

@buggachat

@crocojagged

@danismilek

@emsylcatac

@eona-art

@gabriel-agreste-has-no-rights

@hamsternamedmarinette

@hannahyonana

@janaikam

@jascurka

@jennagrinsoverml

@jjuuppiter

@kagamitsu

@kenna-nor

@ladybeug

@ladyblargh

@ladyofthenoodle

@landturtlealyce

@lc-holy

@leviaana

@lukalunar

@mari-monsta

@marikittynoir

@marinoodles

@matchalaatte

@miraculousladrien

@miraculouslylazybug

@ouiladybug

@picayunearts

@rosekasa

@sabertoothwalrus

@sariahsue

@sha-nwa

@sketchy-panda

@smellerbeee

@sweetgaleria

@sweetjupiterr

@syeko

@syrva

@thechatsmeow

@thewritewolf

@tizzymcwizzy

@trashcatontherooftop

@verooquieremimir

@yeet-noir

@yunyin

@zivazivc

ok i could go on and on but i'll stop there lol. i know this is a lot but i remember when i joined the fandom i just binge followed a bunch of ML blogs haha so i hope this helps to fill your dash with good ML content 😌 i also recommend follow @discoveringmiraculousartist and @discoveringmiraculouswriters

I REALLY want ephemeral to be Chat noir's 'Chat Blanc'. Where he gets the trauma on an identity reveal and has to find a way to deal with things. And he remembers that Shadowmoth is his father, and he has to DEAL with that.

I can't speak on this confidently, as we haven't seen the episode "Gabriel" yet, but I think Adrien's growing resentment towards Ladybug is meant to parallel Gabriel's pipeline into becoming Hawkmoth.

I have also come to the conclusion that Adrien's whole character arc is revolved around the duality of the power of destruction, which I get is obvious, but hear me out. While destruction can cause chaos and harm to others, it also plays a necessary part in tearing down oppressive forces.

Let's talk about this scene.

What this scene has communicated to us is, despite the two of them having seemingly opposite personalities, Adrien is indeed Gabriel's son. What I mean by this is that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree; both have a tendency to get caught up on their projected fantasies involving the people they love.

The position Gabriel is in right now, being Hawkmoth and all, is a direct result of him being unable to process his grief. Much like Adrien and his fantasy of Ladybug, Gabriel clings onto the fantasy of a "better world" with Emilie to cope with his grief and reconcile his guilt. Consequently, Gabriel has now become Paris' biggest threat and he's dealing out collateral damage onto his family (i.e. Adrien and Nathalie).

Adrien is at risk of falling down the same path; Adrien's grief has led to him becoming emotionally dependent on his romantic fantasy involving Ladybug. Even after everything he went through in this episode, this poor boy is still clinging to this damn fantasy for dear life.

Right now, even after everything that happened in Glaciator 2.0, Adrien is still stuck on this cycle of hoping Ladybug will one day fall for him, Ladybug rejecting him and inevitably breaking his heart, him getting depressed and lashing out because of it, him and ladybug reconciling, and then Adrien slipping back into the fantasy again to rinse and repeat.

In order for Adrien to truly develop as a character, he needs to break the cycle. He needs to break the cycle of damage his father is doing to the environment (as demonstrated in Mega Leech), he needs to break the cycle of complacency in his life, and he needs to break the cycle of enabling his father's actions. In order to do that, he needs to stand up to his father and get him to break the same cycle within himself.

If Adrien can't break the cycle, he's going to succumb to it and end up just like his father... or worse.

I like a lot of what you said, but one if the points I don't agree with is how Marinette perceives Adrien as perfect.

I believe she doesn't, like when she said she first assumed he was pretentious and superficial. But I do believe that she thinks very highly of him and when she compares herself to him, she continuously thinks very lowly of herself and only focuses on her flaws.

adrien and marinette are perfect for each other because they're both obsessive weirdos, except that marinette is flustered because she perceives adrien as someone perfect and therefore unattainable, so she's ashamed of how weird she is, while adrien lets his dorky side out as chat noir, but he exaggerates his behaviour because of social awkwardness, so his weirdness turns into a caricature instead.

chat noir telling marinette that he likes hamsters, too, when she admitted to her fantasies and how they stunt her actions in reality, was everything. i'm soft about how adrien is so sweet and non-judgemental that he's the one person who has never laughed at her social ineptitude, has validated her anxious spirals instead of dismissing them as ridiculous, and has patiently listened to her when she messes up her words. the only time he has ever interrupted her was when he thought she was being unfair to herself. goddamn it, luka made fun of her stuttering when they met. in comparison, you can totally tell that chat noir thought marinette's 'i have three suns' confession to be a little ridiculous, but he was nothing but supportive.

the things marinette perceives as her flaws are the things adrien likes about her, or even has in common. he didn't think that her fantasies are stupid. i'm just... glad at how he doesn't dismiss marinette's feelings and ideas and takes them so seriously, when both the show and the fandom haven't done that.