Y'all Out Here Saying Adrien Is A Sentimonster Cause Of The Last 30 Seconds.

Y'all out here saying adrien is a sentimonster cause of the last 30 seconds.

You are missing the point of the scene.

THAT SCENE WAS GABRIEL REALIZING HE COULDNT TELL HIS SON HE WAS SHADOWMOTH.

If Adrien rebelled against him over something like this, what makes him think Adrien would help him when he is a villain?!

Like seriously, the scene is supposed to show the isolation that Adrien is going to be going through.

At this point? I'm all for the heroes knowing his identity as Chat Noir before people know Hawkmoth's identity. Because frankly, this secret identity thing puts a very heavy strain on Adrien's mental and emotional faculties.

The only secret identities that matter are Ladybug and Chat Noir's. It's part of their bond. It's between them.

Chat Noir doesn't mind not knowing who are the Temporary Holders. But he sure as hell mind when he learns LB accepts for some other Holders to share their identity between themselves. To him, it seems unfair Alya and Nino could have that while LB and him cannot. Doesn't she trust him as well?

The rule was initially set for LB and CN to better protect their Miraculous. That was back when Fu was still around and it was mostly Ladybug and Chat Noir doing the work.

Now, things have changed.

Now, Ladybug is the Guardian. She has full access to the Miraculous and can get anyone on the spot. Plus, now she heavely relies on Alya/Rena Rouge for support and as a spy without Chat Noir knowing. Sidelining him.

Seriously, the secret identity is just one small part in the whole miscommunication problem their partnership is facing, but revealing themselves won't resolve the initial problem caused by their respective ghost.

When you think about it, at this point in the show, if Marinette discovers Chat Noir and Adrien are the same person, it will probably just feed her trauma about Chat Blanc. She might panic and accidently push Adrien further away in the process.

In case of Adrien, if he doesn't solve his fear of abadonment and if he doesn't understand Marinette's reaction, he will think Marinette hates him and is rejecting him, thus hurting him even more.

Anyway, it is however true the Ladynoir's conflict this season is causing their viewpoint about the secret identity to clash.

Ladybug prefers to respect the secret identity rule. Sure, it is not perfect and complicates some things sometimes for them, but that rule works and she will maintain it. It's safer that way.

On the other hand, Chat Noir is witnessing more and more injustice on his end this season because of that rule. He believed in its necessity at first, but now that he knows it can be bended and broken by others, he is starting the question the point behind it. Is is really for the best that LB and him doesn't know each other identities? Is it still relevant?

But what those two need isn't a reveal. The problem is that they keep avoiding one very important conversation they should have had a long time ago. Ladybug haven't spoke of her experience of that one alternate timeline nor of Rena Rouge's new role inside the team. Chat Noir is not talking about the fact he feels sidelined. They don't bring it up because their respective traumas is haunting them.

That is the root of problem : their trauma, not the secret identity.

Can we talk about Adrien composing himself here?

It’s obvious that there’s a lot on his mind right now.

It’s obvious that he’s questioning a lot of things.

It’s obvious that he’s feeling a lot of conflicting emotions.

Yet, despite all that, he comes back to the main issue here and addresses it.

He composes himself and prioritises Nino’s feelings and problems here because Adrien knows that Nino can’t help him with his own and it’s what mattered in the moment. 

He’s not prone to lashing out all the time and he’s not dangerous (he’s a kid!), contrary to some people believing that, because he broke a chimney.

He can compose himself, he does compose himself most of the time, he represses his emotions most of the time. 

But not all the time. As he can only repress so much.

Especially when he’s told that he’s not needed in a very insensitive way (ofc no shade to Alya seeing how she was on a time limit), and after growing up with so many isolation and abandonment issues, thinking that the one position you wouldn’t feel left out in, makes you feel left out, and since you repress too much and never express your emotions, you have no outlets of expression and end up expressing it through breaking a chimney. 

Its so annoying I hate how some do this and go against what has been established in the show and justs makes for confusion. I 100% agree with @chatblancismyfursona on this one.

For anyone confused regarding the cataclysm that hit Adrien;

If Emilie kicked the bucket, he could still survive—Adrien’s life isn’t contingent on hers.

At this point? I'm all for the heroes knowing his identity as Chat Noir before people know Hawkmoth's identity. Because frankly, this secret identity thing puts a very heavy strain on Adrien's mental and emotional faculties.

The only secret identities that matter are Ladybug and Chat Noir's. It's part of their bond. It's between them.

Chat Noir doesn't mind not knowing who are the Temporary Holders. But he sure as hell mind when he learns LB accepts for some other Holders to share their identity between themselves. To him, it seems unfair Alya and Nino could have that while LB and him cannot. Doesn't she trust him as well?

The rule was initially set for LB and CN to better protect their Miraculous. That was back when Fu was still around and it was mostly Ladybug and Chat Noir doing the work.

Now, things have changed.

Now, Ladybug is the Guardian. She has full access to the Miraculous and can get anyone on the spot. Plus, now she heavely relies on Alya/Rena Rouge for support and as a spy without Chat Noir knowing. Sidelining him.

Seriously, the secret identity is just one small part in the whole miscommunication problem their partnership is facing, but revealing themselves won't resolve the initial problem caused by their respective ghost.

When you think about it, at this point in the show, if Marinette discovers Chat Noir and Adrien are the same person, it will probably just feed her trauma about Chat Blanc. She might panic and accidently push Adrien further away in the process.

In case of Adrien, if he doesn't solve his fear of abadonment and if he doesn't understand Marinette's reaction, he will think Marinette hates him and is rejecting him, thus hurting him even more.

Anyway, it is however true the Ladynoir's conflict this season is causing their viewpoint about the secret identity to clash.

Ladybug prefers to respect the secret identity rule. Sure, it is not perfect and complicates some things sometimes for them, but that rule works and she will maintain it. It's safer that way.

On the other hand, Chat Noir is witnessing more and more injustice on his end this season because of that rule. He believed in its necessity at first, but now that he knows it can be bended and broken by others, he is starting the question the point behind it. Is is really for the best that LB and him doesn't know each other identities? Is it still relevant?

But what those two need isn't a reveal. The problem is that they keep avoiding one very important conversation they should have had a long time ago. Ladybug haven't spoke of her experience of that one alternate timeline nor of Rena Rouge's new role inside the team. Chat Noir is not talking about the fact he feels sidelined. They don't bring it up because their respective traumas is haunting them.

That is the root of problem : their trauma, not the secret identity.

How do you watch the richest man on Earth go to space for 10 minutes of his own amusement while using more CO2 than a billion people in a year instead of idk helping fight climate change or poverty and not immediately radicalize yourself