This Was Meant To Be A Short Little Joke Style Theory But It Turned Into A Character Analysis So The

This was meant to be a short little joke style theory but it turned into a character analysis so the before cut is the main interesting point and the rest you can read if you want my take on Vox as a whole, and what I personally would do with him nest season.

The reason why Vox hates the past so much is because he has so many regrets/ kind of hates himself for getting into the situation he's in where every waking moment is either dealing with his public image, dealing with Vals tantrum/manipulative bs (Yes I think Vox is being manipulated by Val I believe in the "Val can secrete a date r*pe drug type substance in his saliva") OR endlessly trying to make power grabs to "prove himself". The other overlords DO NOT like this man, I reckon that upsets him more than he lets on (my theory as to why he sent Velvett to that meeting instead) .

Vox focuses on "upgrading" because facing his past and where he fucked up is his literal worst nightmare. It just so happens that part of his past that he regrets (Alastor, whether you think it was a failed romantic proposal or not it CLEARLY had a big affect) is somebody who embodies the past.

He moves away from past technology to move away from Alastor. He constantly upgrades himself/ his products because looking into his past is not something he wants to do.

Of course, that only worked for 7 years, now Al is back he's FORCED to face at least some of where he fucked up which is why when we see him, despite being an overlord, he looks incredibly pathetic. It's not that his power level is so much below Alastor, (though that could be a factor) but he's facing his worst nightmare every time the deer fucker shows up.

Alastor pisses him off sure, but what really gets him so twitchy and almost paranoid is what Alastor represents, his past.

This isnt trying to defend Vox or whatever but I do think that he's the least objectively evil out of the Vees. To me he's a "doesn't want to be evil he just wants recognition and oops, now you've got it through bad means" kind of guy who's been teamed up with a sleezy manipulative asshole who doesn't seem to have any motivation other than just enjoying being a creep. And Velvette, who while we haven't seen anything super bad yet, she clearly endorses Val (the love potion advert) and is also more abrasive than Vox.

Its even more so shown in the finale when Vox is super exited about something (it's Alastor dying, but still) and the other two are just completely uninterested until it benefits them.

I've seen some people saying that Vox and Val are the main and Velvette is the one that's off to the side out of the three but despite doing, whatever you want to call THAT in the finale with Val, Vox is more obviously the one who doesn't line up with the other two as well.

Vox probably wished he'd pursued a deal with Alastor rather than the Vees because then he'd get what he wants, to be recognised and respected. Even though Al does mostly command through fear there is respect for him among those who are more powerful than him, all save Lucifer of course. Vox on the other hand has basically no respect from anyone who he doesn't mind control, Velvette treats him like Val control and Val is CLEARLY using similar tactics that he would on one of his 'employees' on Vox. (Acting super whiny/ guilt to get what he wants, pushing his buttons to get a reaction after his initial outburst didn't piss Vox off enough, THE RED SALIVA). While the annoyance between the three seems to be just petty bullshit I'm certain that, at least on a subconscious level that Vox knows that if he hadn't got in with them that he'd be better off. VoxTech certainly seems the most lucrative out of what the three control. And the other two wouldn't exist if it warned for the tech HE supplies. (Vox is the real backbone of the Vees). This man clearly SO DESPERATELY wants attention and to be adored. Rather than hating him like I do with Val, it makes me pity him. And THATS the centre of all this, he is pitiful and so has MORE room for character development.

Its fully possible that he blames himself for fucking up whatever proposition he had for Alastor when in reality, Al is just an ass but Vox can't see that

Of course this is just my interpretation, but it'd make S2 where the Vees are confirmed to be a bigger focus much more interesting if Vox also gets this internal dilemma/ self doubt.

They could still feasibly swing in either direction of characyer development and I'd consider it well written and thats what makes him so interesting to me. He has so much potential for both good and for evil, also for general annoyance and comedy.

If it were up to me I'd do the megamind route of FINALLY letting the character win against their enemy, only to end up pissed off about it because the person they pinned all their problems on wasn't actually the cause of them, then swing in a completely different direction because this is hell and the feel good stories are reserved for characters who believe in therapy. Maybe a song where Vox prevails, only to then later reprise in a version where he loses his sense of self a little, maybe finally realises how little the other two care after he finally bests Alastor in something but it doesn't matter because he "didn't get any new territory or souls" or something along those lines. A second song could be Vox actually coming into his own more with a song all about him, nobody singing over or with him. It doesn't even have to redeem his character it would just be singling him out as Vox, not one of the Vees.

This ramble was brought to you by the powers of procrastination. Congrats on actually reading all that shit. (And lmk if you'd add anything in your opinion?) =3.

back at it with another doctor who poll bc i think this one would be really funny

physical fight, no weapons, yes you can fight dirty, who are you decking, i'd love to hear your reasoning in the tags LMAO

never trust a doctor who fan to tell you which episodes of doctor who to watch because I just saw someone on my dash say that absolutely nothing consequential happened during the eleventh doctor’s run. ive seen people say that twelve’s last season was low quality. they’ve said that nine’s season is good, but you don’t really need to see it to understand what’s going on. someone suggested that ten is overrated and totally out of character for the doctor and his first two seasons are worth skipping so you don’t have to see any romance nonsense. tons of people think thirteen’s has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and should be written off entirely. trust no one. you gotta take matters into your own hands. godspeed

That is the thing. See overlords started going missing shortly after Alastor entered Hell, but he didn’t take the credit for a while, is what was said. That’s where that planning time would fit in, thinking on the minds he knew and whether making such an open claim could work. Most wouldn’t have the audacity to make such a claim, true, but I don’t think that could be put past Alastor.

Okay I get what you mean with that. Doesn't really explain the broadcasts but they could always be attributed to other randoms he found on the street? The whole point of radio is that you don't see anything after all and Al is pretty strong on the whole "will not be seen on camera" thing.

Now I've had more time to think on it both scenarios (despite being complete opposites) both do have snippets of evidence (mostly in subtext, mind) to support him being on either extreme of power scale. I'm not convinced the showrunners will go in the alastor is a fraud direction but I personally am starting to see it a little more.

I wasn't trying to be critical btw I've just entered analysis mode because what you said brought up some stuff i hadnt really considered, including Vox maybe dying, which opens a whole other thing. =)

Now I've got 2 separate scenarios to think about. To quote the ancient texts, "holy shit two cakes".

You are 100% right that Alastor is capable of having the audacity to pull something like that though. Even if he isn't a full fraud he definitely strikes me as somebody to make risky lies to get his own way. (I'm convinced he cheated in his game with Husk).

That’s the thing: I’m not entirely sure that canon is against it, if we go solely by the text alone, in how it was he built up his power. He would still have a degree of real power, just not on the level he has claimed. Like how certain people in real life claimed to be multibillionaires until asked to show their tax records.

I get that! My main argument against it was Alastors "unclipped my wings" line. He's clearly alone in that scene so there's no need to big up his power level, but he makes it seem like he's actually even MORE powerful. Another point is how scared Husk is of him, but Husk would surely at least suspect that he was weaker. Husks comment about Al being on a leash seems to indicate that Husk knows Al is capable of more outside of this deal.

Also most of his character backstory dumps involve him rising to power VERY quickly. Fraudulent behaviour usually takes time, contacts and significant effort. It's also much more difficult to fake being powerful in a world where people are constantly trying to fight/overtake each other rather than a flippant lie about money.

Alastor displays behaviour indicative of somebody who thinks VERY highly of themselves. While he's clearly stressed about his deal, the level of confidence he has right up until the point that Adam hits him is unmatched.

Of course that could be because of his deal, but an ego like that doesn't develop over a short amount of time.

Don't get me wrong it could sill be plausible, but a few things would need to be explained or written off as holes in order to do so. Still love the idea and think it's worth asking the opinion of others who like to analyse, its a super interesting point and not one I've seen before! =3

May I present, Mother.

Export quality of this ain’t great but I don’t do complex rendering so who cares lmao.

Among all the redesigns I just wanted to imagine what a character with already decent design would look if the animation style was just that bit more complex. I like Rosie but she needed accessorising just a bit more.

Anyway here’s the annotated version if you want to see why I chose to do what I did.

Visual representation of the process.

Haven’t drawn in a while so I traced the basic shapes in black then went from there. Freaky demon proportions are more forgiving than human tho so I don’t think I did too bad. =3