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When you fall to rock bottom...
For the first few months or years, it will feel like a very lonely place.
Nobody else is there with you, for you and like you. Everyone else is doing better, living a correct life and doing things you desire to do. It may seem like others are a little too happy, unusually happier, perhaps your failure gives them another reason to be happy.
With passing time, you may stop crying and look around yourself:
And what you see is that there are many others in many shapes and forms living a life of rock bottom day after day. You were not actually lonely, if once you raise your head and look around...
What are your interests ? Movie , foods , HOBBIES , anything u like a lot , how do you spent your free time ?
Hello, I'm blushing to see your question because there is nothing much to share. My personality is transformative:
So my hobbies and interests have changed many times. My most favourite hobby was dancing.
Now I do journaling, read something about psychoanalysis, watch YouTube in free time. I don't have much inclination in music and movies although they are full of archetypes so it helps to see how they churn and influence my emotions and thoughts.
How about you? Which activities do you feel like you're pulled towards? 😊
Emotional turmoil that feels like motion sickness
Have you ever done something against your conscience? For eg, cheated someone who believed you to be honest. Have you ever done something that is supposed to give positive feelings but instead make you sick? For eg, giving a dance performance but feeling guilty and wrong about it.
Emotional turmoil is the downward spiral of negative emotions like guilt, shame, confusion, resentment. It may make one sick, physically sick like motion sickness. Motion sickness gives one nausea, dizziness, fatigue and vomiting sensations. It is something you understand with experience.
There are similarities in symptoms of emotional turmoil and motion sickness. Emotional turmoil usually happens because of internal spiritual or psychological conflicts. Whereas motion sickness happens while travelling via sea or car or airplane or swinging or when you run round and round.
"A man is ill, but the illness is nature's attempt to heal him." - Carl Jung, CW 10, Para 361
When one does not understand the nature of emotional turmoil, they resort to methods to numb or escape them. But there is so much potential in the turmoil for depth and inner realizations.
I don't want to call emotional turmoil as a tool for personal growth or self improvement or self actualization because I think that neither improvement nor actualization is lasting and permanent. The effects last for maybe 4/5 minutes and then emotions are back to the same behaviour as before.
Emotional turmoil, however, can be a tool for psychoanalysis and self inquiry.
Whenever we talk about emotions we symbolize them with water. Water is volatile, flowing and has a lot of power. Just like emotions are moving inside our body and hold a lot of power.
So, to realize that sickness is around the corner if you do certain behaviours can actually take you to a path that is more honest to your inner life: a path where you don't feel as sick anymore. Whenever you feel the sickness coming in, it is symptom that the path has to change a little or maybe a lot.
Individuals blind to the sexual opposite within them, be they men or women, never realise that the partner they choose is chosen because he or she bears some resemblance to the anima or animus. The anger and hurt felt at the true discovery of the partner's failings is really anger and hurt directed at oneself; and this would become apparent, were one to see the dark figure within one's own unconscious impelling one into a particular relationship. Like always attracts like; rather than railing at the partner, one should take a long, close look at one's own psychic makeup.
Relating
Liz Greene
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"The Midheaven/10th house is the wider social reputation and image through the public eye. Pluto and the 8th House, on the other hand, is the reputation we leave behind."
John A. Sanford, "Parenting and Your Child's Shadow"
The unconscious is not just evil by nature, it is also the source of the highest good: not only dark but also light, not only bestial, semihuman, and demonic but superhuman, spiritual, and, in the classical sense of the word, divine.
The Practice of Psychotherapy
Carl Jung
planets in the eighth house: 📝
last month, i ran a poll on twitter and my followers asked me to write a thread about pluto in the eighth house (8H). so i decided to make a post about every planet in the 8H:
the sun: these people can feel like they're constantly uncovering more about themselves and always going through some sort of transformation. they can really care about public judgment, but feel like they must go about life as if they are unaffected by the opinions of others. usually have a fluctuating relationship with attention
the moon: prone to bottling their emotions, but go out of their way to absorb the emotions of others. brilliant at dream magic and interpretation. they become more merciful as they experience hardship throughout their lives; compassion is very central to them. sensitive to misunderstanding and can take it personally
mercury: this placement makes for excellent actors. naturally very inquisitive and perceptive people — they have a somewhat compulsive need to understand the details of things, even if they're unimportant. can have a 'speak when spoken to' personality and are quite sensitive to body language, proxemics, etc.
venus: known to be tattoo or piercing lovers. exceptionally drawn to witchcraft and other spiritual practices. very contract-based people in the sense that they often examine things as a transaction; they don't borrow without the intention to pay back. they usually enjoy art that is disturbing or creepy to others
mars: these people can struggle with resentment and hide their anger from others to not seem explosive or uncontrolled. their appearance is often a subject of discussion or gossip due to jealousy. always develop abundant talent in what they're passionate about; they continuously seek improvement in their skills
jupiter: gifted at understanding agreements and reaching them — they are very diplomatic people. these placements particularly benefit from having an altar or praying to their spiritual guides. they have a tendency to look at all of their dreams as prophecies or messages from a divine entity
saturn: extremely selfless and humanitarian people; they can end up draining themselves because of their altruistic personality. often feel that marriage is a bit controlling or overly bureaucratic. they're regularly disappointed by elder figures and those around them with power due to their standards of maturity
uranus: have an inherent talent for capturing people's attention. though, they can have a complicated feelings about friendship and social expectations as a whole. they also have an on-and-off relationship with technology. these placements strive to make unique contributions to society and those around them
neptune: known to be smokers. particularly skilled at digging through their own emotions and understanding why they experience things the way they do. they enjoy finding meaning through suffering (much like 8H jupiters). as a consequence, they can ruminate over their sadness for a very long period of time
pluto: tend to enjoy psychology and love examining people's thought processes. pluto here can cause them to be especially private and protective over their personal lives; they really do not like feeling supervised or watched by others. have a love for thriller films and video game horror
do you have planets in your 8H ? let me know how you resonated with my interpretations !!
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the eighth house and dreams: 🛌
earlier in february, i quoted @liberationastro's tweet about the 8H and how it relates to dreaming — going over its connection to dream spellwork, prophetic dreams, etc.
i got several responses from my followers who are also 8H placements:
“8H cancer mercury, i literally get info shared through dreams”
“8h Gemini mercury and oo boy. Sometimes I still remember dreams I had at five years old”
“okay but not me having an 8h jupiter and all of these being me at one point or another.”
TWELFTH HOUSE VS. EIGHTH HOUSE DREAMS:
the twelfth house has a strong reputation for dreams and our unconscious state, but i feel like the qualities found in this house are a bit different !! i elaborated on those differences in the set of tweets below
THE PLANETS THROUGHOUT THE EIGHTH HOUSE:
the sun: dreams are always vivid and illuminating to these placements. even if the details are blurry, their dreams are still very emotionally impactful. the events that occur in their dreams can strongly affect how they navigate their waking life
the moon: they have an incredible sense of intuition and are keen at detecting danger through their dreams (like 8H suns and marses). dreams tend to gravitate around their family, their domestic life, bathing, pregnancy, etc.
mercury: these placements communicate through their dreams and regularly receive important information while dreaming. they often dream about work, their daily routine, their school life, conversations they've had, etc.
venus: dreams usually pertain to their relationships or hold literal visuals of their loved ones. they're also prone to dreaming about money, work; they also birth new creative or artistic projects through imagery they see in their dreams
mars: these placements particularly carry grudges, stress, and unresolved conflict into their dream world; they can be prone to violent or argumentative dreams. 8H marses usually expend quite a bit of energy while dreaming
jupiter: these placements put a lot of spiritual emphasis on their dreams and are incredibly talented with dream magic. they also have great skill in communicating with deceased loved ones in their dreams (like 8H moons and saturns).
saturn: they have a remarkable memory when it comes to their dreams, but not a lot 8H saturns dream on a regular basis. their dreams tend to revolve around hardship, control, or past feelings of shame
uranus: their dreams hold insight on their friendships and the people they socialize with. since uranus is connected to discovery and the future, they also have a gift for gaining important foresight from their dreams
neptune: dreams can often seem prophetic (like 8H jupiters), but these placements usually feel like they have to filter through a lot of confusing symbolism to reach the core meaning of their dreams. water is an important symbol for them
pluto: these placements have a very high tendency towards recurring dreams (like 8H mercuries). their dreams can be quite disturbing or frightening, so they usually stay private about them. some of the most likely to keep a dream journal
to my fellow 8H placements, how do you resonate with my interpretations ? let me know in the replies !!
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Susan Nathiel, Daughters of Madness
hi, can my feelings of sudden and unexplainable guilt be linked to people being mad at me from their self made projections about me. it's like a spiritual warfare that's going on and it's because of them not me. and lot of times i also intuitively feel the need to adapt and adjust to a different me so that doesn't piss off people (who don't know me, i get projected a lot) in order to keep the peace
i have 1st house lilith, 12th house sun, pisces rising and scorpio mars in vedic
Hello,
You say sudden and unexplainable guilt... to adapt and adjust to a different me so that does not piss off people. And that people project a lot to you.
Could it be that you feel guilt because you change yourself around people? See, every situation is different and we do unconsciously adapt to the environment and mirror the feelings of other people. This is necessity of social life. But after this trip around the town, do you come back home?
Guilt is a relatable emotion and I can say I feel guilty when I do something that is not consistent with my... values. I do not have any strict written down values but when the heart says something is not right, it wants to analyze some event or interaction.
A sudden pang in the chest, a quiet voice persistently whispering at the back of our mind, we experience guilt when our actions, or deliberate lack thereof, infringe upon our personal ethical code or societal norms.- https://thisjungianlife.com/guilt/
So perhaps the guilt is invitation to build a home inside yourself, where you feel at equilibrium, peace, safe beyond the influences of other people. How a home feels just right.
— A. Y.
The heart itself cannot break, for its very nature is soft and open. What breaks open when we see things as they are is the protective shell of ego identity we have built around ourselves in order to avoid feeling pain. When the heart breaks out of this shell, we feel quite raw and vulnerable. Yet that is also the beginning of feeling real compassion for ourselves and others.
Ordinary Magic
John Welwood
"An 8th House emphasis in the birth chart can suggest the individual has been born into a complicated legacy. Hidden powers, incarnations, and curses are passed on through this sacred 8 of eternity House. As a result, the person is susceptible to experiences in childhood involving hauntings, ghost sightings, and intense dream and nightmare states. There are usually also often themes relating to withholding secrets, or of feeling deeply disempowered in some way as a child. "
Cherry
"Intuition is a perception by means of the unconscious.
C.G. Jung, 1957 Richard Evans Interview
“How do we forgive our fathers? Maybe in a dream. Do we forgive our fathers for leaving us too often, or forever, when we were little? Maybe for scaring us with unexpected rage, or making us nervous because there never seemed to be any rage there at all? Do we forgive our fathers for marrying, or not marrying, our mothers? Or divorcing, or not divorcing, our mothers? And shall we forgive them for their excesses of warmth or coldness? Shall we forgive them for pushing, or leaning? For shutting doors or speaking through walls? For never speaking, or never being silent? Do we forgive our fathers in our age, or in theirs? Or in their deaths, saying it to them or not saying it. If we forgive our fathers, what is left?”
— Thomas Builds-the-Fire, Smoke Signals (Sherman Alexie)
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"To be in doubt is a more normal condition than certainty. To confess that you doubt, to admit that you never know for certain, is the supremely human condition; for to be able to suffer the doubt, to carry the doubt, means that one is able to carry the other side."
— C.G. Jung
This blogger is Vegan. 🐷🐮
Libbee tries to be just and fair to all. An animal, a bird, a fish can feel and suffer pain. To live without guilty conscience, Libbee believes in painless existence of all living beings. As someone who is into astrology, Veganism was a big stepping stone in my self-realization and analyzing my shadow traits. Veganism is not just about food; food is not just about hunger; food is identity, self image, habit, repetition, dependence. Veganism has shed light upon the half-truths, misinformation, ignorance and darkness that lived inside me.
Animals deserve peace. Animals deserve safety.
There was something almost agonising about speaking and being misunderstood or found unintelligible, something that got right to the heart of all my fears about aloneness. No one will ever understand you. No one wants to hear what you say. Why can’t you fit in, why do you have to stick out so much? It wasn’t hard to see why someone in this position might come to mistrust language, doubting its ability to bridge the gap between bodies, traumatised by the revealed gulf, the potentially lethal abyss that lurks beneath each carefully proffered sentence. Dumbness in this context might be a way of evading hurt, dodging the pain of failed communication by refusing to participate in it at all. That’s how I explained my growing silence, anyway; as an aversion akin to someone wishing to avoid a repeated electric shock.
Olivia Laing, The Lonely City
Astrology of Goodbye
I don't know how to see goodbye in chart. I will only share the stories of mine and my family's charts. This is in no way intended to guide someone else nor it is indication that everyone going through certain dasha will definitely undergo the same event. I only share dots I can connect from little knowledge I have.
Trigger warning: death, loss of parent, grief.
This happened in my Jupiter's mahadasha that I have been running since 2014. That year I started college. Definitely Jupiter is planet of blessings and it is luck and blessing to graduate and be able to use degree for job and livelihood. Then in Ketu's antardasha in 2022 that rules my 1st house, my father was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. For my father's chart, it happened in his Venus Mahadasha and Jupiter Antardasha. Jupiter rules his 8th house that has Saturn in it. It came to light out of nowhere, suddenly, although there was no prior hint.
On first impression, I thought Saturn in 8th house gives very long life, although it may not guarantee good quality of life. I had read that this placement can give chronic diseases. I assured my father that nothing will happen to him, trust me, this will pass for you, just keep taking medical treatment, you're only being tested by God. Once I asked him do you have faith in astrology papa? He said, I have faith in you. So I said, then trust me you will live a long life.
Time pass by, medical treatments do not work for him. One chemotherapy. Next radiotherapy. No change. Next immunotherapy. Next chemotherapy. Next chemotherapy. All these treatments for long months. He was not ready to give up. As you know each chemotherapy takes months for cycles then we wait for some days before body scan. It was test of patience and powerlessness. I stopped telling him astrology and stop seeing everything. In my culture, vedic astrology is a big thing so we consult my friend's father who sees charts. He says, is it in bones? Do not worry, nothing will happen to you, you will recover even without surgery.
Meanwhile, we do everything we know. Buying stones, doing rituals, long 9 days of rituals, donating food grains and consulting a family tantrik. My father's health deteriorates further. One day he tells me, look my skin looks so old, I look like I am 95 year old. Instantly it struck me that although he's young he indeed looks like he is very old because of the treatments and looks like he "lived a long life".
My obsession with studying the 8th house makes me realize that he is being compelled to take the path of Yogi. He eats nothing, drinks nothing, speaks nothing, cannot leave house, does not go to work, does not socialize. This means he is doing sadhana and it is spiritually important event. It is internal self destruction to the point of nothing, so that a big transformation can begin.
In rahu's antardasha and rahu pratyantardasha, dear father leaves his body and departs to the world of unknown. For me, it was my Venus' antardasha and rahu's pratyantardasha. For my mother, she was running rahu's mahadasha, rahu's antardasha and venus pratyantardasha. I have venus in my 8th house but it rules my 7th/12th house. My mother's 8th/1st house are ruled by Venus. Can you see the change in her identity, self image, social identity from this information? It makes some sense in hindsight.
So, this is the story of timeline of what happened and when. How my incomplete astro knowledge made me tell misinformation and false promise to my father. And why I will only stick to personality analysis and not predicting events in coming times. I have not touched astrology for last 7 or 8 months now. But today it feels like I need to take it seriously and begin learning things from scratch once again. Living in a rut will keep close to memories of past but life has to move on even if that means getting distant from memories and not thinking of the same things every single day.
Thank you to people who asked me how I was doing. This community is very supportive and does not forget you though one may forget oneself. My best wishes to everyone.
Moon in 3rd house Question
3rd house is that of the siblings. One dimension of this house is the relationship with siblings, coborns.
I have noticed this theme with 3rd housers that they spent lots of time with their siblings in childhood. Even as adults, they have an irrational attachment to their siblings. In the worst case scenario, even if their siblings are abusive they will not set up any boundary. They will still go back to the sibling. In best case, they will have very strong bonding with their sibling as if they are best friends.
In some ways they are like a love struck girl who cannot let go of her toxic lover. She is so intimately hooked to her lover. In the same way, these natives are hooked to their siblings. They have an unconditional blind love for their sibling.
Do you think this interpretation is true? Although all of us have love for our siblings but when it becomes a dependence then we may ask if they have moon in 3rd house?