See!? On One Hand We Have Noah And On The Other We Have Brett. Noah Could've Simply Ignored Making That

See!? On one hand we have Noah and on the other we have Brett. Noah could've simply ignored making that video but still decided to do that, while on other hand Brett hasn't even spoken a single word. Ya he should've worded it properly, but this is only the first step. There was a really low chance that he will make a video like this but he did. Have you seen other celebs do it? PR teams mostly tells celebs to be quiet and judging from Noah's comment section, that might be the case. But who knows?

I say this multiple times but gonna say this again, if you didn't felt affected by his actions or hurt by his actions, then you can't just "accept" or "deny" the apology, only people who actually felt affected by his actions can forgive him 🙏

This is just my opinion on Noah’s video, and nobody has to agree, as long as we are able to remain civil. But I’m sorry, I don’t understand the people who complain that Noah’s video is just a PR move, or damage control. All “apologies” (or statements, or clarifications, or whatever words you want to use) are damage control by default. Additionally, people would have called it damage control regardless of the situation. If he had done it immediately after the controversy — damage control. If he waited months later from now to do it — damage control. If he never did it — well, obviously he never cared about Palestinians in the first place, and is a rabid racist. Or he’s waiting for people to forget about it — thus, damage control.

The truth is, people’s minds were already made up about Noah — even long before the controversy first happened. And yes, because people don’t want to admit it, a lot of the flames of the controversy are stoked by the fact that he’s gay and Jewish. Unconscious biases still exist, and they come out in regards to getting angry at minorities. Even before Noah made the instagram post, there were people already calling him a Nazi, or saying that he was going to become part of the IDF. And even now, people make jokes degrading his sexuality — not actually focused about the things he’d done. And unless he apparently said a combination of extremely specific magic words, then people were never going to accept him.

There are going to be people will honestly never accept or forgive him. They said he spread misinformation — he deleted/archived his original “I stand with Israel” post. They said he hopes Palestinians die — he labels out in the video that he thinks the mass death and killings of innocent Palestinians (esp. women and children) was bad. Because apparently people didn’t get the memo the first time, and were trigger-happy accusing him of being a monster. Have you guys actually interacted with any hardcore Zionists? I have. They would have never responded to the situation like Noah. They would have found justifications for the continuation of Israeli airstrikes and the deaths of thousands of Gazans. Or they would be literally like Brett Gelman — you know, his castmate who is an old man and should know better than a 19 year-old college student. Additionally, Noah said he’s spoken to Palestinians to learn from their perspectives on the argument. This is another thing hardcore Zionists would not do, because they think all Palestinians deserve to die and not have a voice.

Do I think his video could have stood to say more things? Yes. I think he should have actually brought up the things like the stickers stuff, among others. So I can understand people who were disappointed over that, saying he didn't really apologize. Do I think he should have probably prepared more before the video began? Yes, but honestly people will accuse him of just being fed what to say by his PR team (not that people aren’t already accusing him of such). But do I find the video offensive? No. His political stance of hoping that Israelis and Palestinians will be able to live safely and peacefully together in the Levant should not actually be some controversial claim that have people this riled up about it.

I never expected Noah to say something along the lines of “Fuck Israel” or “I hope Israel gets dissolved.” If that is the apology or statement you seek, then I’m sorry, but it’s just not going to happen. This is not about whether or not I personally want him to say that. It’s just being realistic. Noah very likely has family who currently live in Israel. And I understand most people seem to believe Noah is just a 100% white dude, and that Israel is made up of 100% white people, but that’s not true. The majority of the Israeli population come from those who were ethnically cleansed from neighboring MENA countries. And Noah’s mother is a Moroccan woman (and if you really want to look her up, you can see she’s not “white”). Do you know how many Jews live in Morocco now? About 2000~. Do you know how many Moroccan Jews are in Israel? 900,000.

Also, one last thing. Take it with grain a salt, but according to Noah (in his comments section), his PR team actually told him to stay quiet over the situation. But he felt like that wasn’t right and thus, this video was created. That’s more mature than people are willing to give him credit for. And also, obviously, stop harassing him. Stop calling him slurs, or suibaiting him, or (and this is real) doxxing, stalking, and sexually threatening him. Noah has already (allegedly) filed a restraining order on someone. Again, you are by no means required to actually like him. Continue disliking him, if you want. But these are all horrible things to do to a person, so let’s not.

Please tell me u are not saying this seriously. India Never Occupied Kashmir, legal documents were signed when King Hari Singh agreed to join J&K with India (after the partition) . It was Pakistan who occupied parts of J&K illegally (and China aswell). Kashmir was a Hindu land before Islamic invaders converted them and killed those who didn't agreed. Go see what is happening in POK or in your so called "azad" Kashmir. People are literally asking Modi for help there. They are told by Pakistanis that India will prison them and would take away their freedom, on which they say "If this is what freedom looks like then we are happy being prisoned" . And how I'm saying this from surity? Because Pakistanis people have themselves interviewed people of POK. Israel and India had good relations because Israel has helped India so many times in past. India has provided help for Palestine aswell despite knowing that in past India got nothing in return for supporting Palestine (All Arab nations turned their back when Indo Pak war broke down). Go watch Bitta Karate interview on yt. Go watch Pakistani youtubers interviewing people of POK. And go watch the development that has happened in J&K after the abrogation of article 370.

Stop trying to divide my country than it already is, if you really consider urself as Indian. India had lost Pakistan and Bangladesh already. Stop trying to take away J&K and Punjab from us aswell.

because I am also Indian, I want to also point this out. freedom for colonized people everywhere also means freedom for Kashmiris that are under a brutal Indian occupation. the right to self-determination for all colonized people everywhere, from Palestine to Kashmir to Ireland

a good book to read to learn more about the relationship between Israel and India is “Hostile Homelands” by Azad Essa. India is looking to Israel treatment of Palestinians as a blueprint for its own crimes against Kashmiris, Muslims and Dalits. India is also complicit in furthering Israeli settler colonialism in Palestine - the Port of Haifa is currently partly owned by Adani Ports & SEZ, the founder of which is one of the wealthiest men in India, Gautam Adani (won’t come as a surprise that Adani is also very close to Modi and the BJP)

I'm actually jealous like how was he able to pull both of them 😿

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Well I see ur last answers on Byler and Mileven post and I would like to add my perspective on both of these ships realistically (because I like to poke my nose into others businesses /jk)

Well honestly speaking I love Byler, but here I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. Realistically speaking, both ships have their own pros and cons. Mileven did looked cute around 1-2 seasons (if we see it from general audience perspective) and while Byler (for me atleast) looked so much cute and healthy in season 2.

But look let's forget the fact that Mike can't say ily to El for a moment. Their ship still won't make sense, because Mike (when he asked El out) was around 11-12 yrs (as much as I remember). He cared and loved El but not romantically. He showed a genuine care for her because he suddenly founded her in woods (plus he thought she might know about Will). At this time I don't think he had crush on her. El was the first girl who had talked to him without being mean, so that is also the reason for him to act more soft towards her. But since it was first time for Mike to talk to a girl, so the other people around him (like - Lucas and Nancy) thought that he liked her. And Lucas was the one who was pushing this idea that Mike might be in love with her, and after sometime Nancy also confronted him about this. And since surrounding does affects you and it was his first time being friends with a girl, he later thought yes that might be the case. And El didn't even knew what a friend was, so how do we expect her to know the meaning of love is? In conclusion I think that both El and Mike likes this idea of being in love and they do love each other but as I said not romantically. They both don't act like themselves around each other and in last season they both lied to eachother. Both of them need to explore themselves and what they like and then should be in a relationship with someone they like.

While for Byler, I do believe it is much better than Mileven but again Mike still needs to find what he really feels and think. And as for Will, he does know that the kind of love that want is "not normal" in the sense of 90s. He do love Mike in a romantic way but he still tried to fix Mike's and El's relationship, because he cares for both of them. I'm not a Mike hater but him in season 3 and 4 just gives me mixed feelings. Mike outted Will and he during the time when he was supposed to find his "girlfriend", he started talking about how Will didn't talked to him the whole day. Which is actually kinda umm, weird? Like bro u are supposed to find ur girlfriend, so don't change the topic lol.

I'm still looking out for Mike's character development in season 5 because he has so much potential and he is more than "El's boyfriend".

I to be honest wouldn't mind if Byler doesn't becomes canon (actually I will but that's not the point here 🥲) but if Mileven becomes endgame then tbh it would be a kind of a fanservice. Like let's take bylers a side, the large number of audience are general audience and other are Milevens. Most of the general audience are homophobic and they go with basics . Not forget to mention that people still say in this date that "wait people ship Mike and Will??" El is a character who needs to be independent, her story doesn't revolve around finding a boyfriend but it's revolve around finding herself and learning the normal world. Mike is just boiled down to being El's boyfriend but he is more than that, so many people find him relatable and it's not a bad writting if something like this happens. If see from Will's perspective, then his story doesn't fully revolve around finding a partner but it still plays a important role in his character (since he thinks that he can't be loved by someone how he wants). I'm such huge fan of Will and I want what he feels is good for him, I just want to see him happy. I still hope that he comes out to Mike and Mike to comfort him, them having a heart to heart while comforting each other.

Mileven as a ship held a big potential in past but it wasn't taken serious as it should've been. Same goes for Byler, it have potential to be a good friends to lover story and duffers are giving us bit of hints but we will only what is gonna happen to them in season 5.

At the end I want all my three babies to have a happy ending which they deserve (⁠〃ﾟ⁠3ﾟ⁠〃⁠)

I'm gonna be honest with u right now, this is one of the best explained views on a byler pov I've seen!! It was really nice and you've got a point!! i love nice byler fans with all my heart i swear❤️❤️

The first thing i want to say is the fact that we all are getting so mad sometimes about these ships probably bc no one wants to be in a situation where we get to know that we believed in some delusions for years 😭😭

I personally see mike with el, I don't know if things are gonna work out for them but i hope so, yet the most important thing for me is a happy ending for my fav character- Mike, and if you're the one who has right, if byler actually's gonna be endgame, as long as mike is actually happy i think I'll be happy too (well i really hope so but i want mileven to be endgame please lord😭😭😭)

But even skipping the part about who does mike actually love in a romantic way, can i ask u something? Can you really see it, how mike and el break up and then immediately mike goes to his best friend and his ex gf brother and they become a couple? I know that you would really like that to happen but the question is do u really see it happen?😭 Because i just can't I'm so sorry i don't know how it is supposed to happen, we actually don't have much time it's the last season 😭

And I have another question like this is kinda personal but I need to know, do u have something like this sometimes, that you're starting to stress- ,,what if my fav ship actually won't be endgame? what if I'm being delusional?" Don't get me wrong I'm asking these questions to myself all the time because i have to be honest with u it's stressing me out that there's so many byler shippers like it have to mean something right?😭😭😭

Damn why can't toxic shippers like this chill out. Like bro relax no one is forcing you to ship Byler 😔🖐️

Anyways,

There won’t be a byler kiss yall are on drugs

Hello anon! If you can’t say what you want to say with the little “send anonymously” button being pushed than you know maybe you should say it… just a thought…

Anyways this post was made for the Bylers and if you’re not one of them nobody is forcing you to interact with our content or even be in our hashtag.

I am not on drugs but clearly you are on a few: heteronormativity, lack of awareness to queer coding, poor prediction skills, and lack of balls to send this un- anonymously.

Thank you and have a great day!!! <3

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Thoughts on Byler becoming endgame :

1. I would be so happy, like this is what I've been waiting for my whole life!!!

2. I ship them but no, Will deserve someone better tbh!!!

3. I don't know and I don't care :)

4. No, please god no!!

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