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Well I see ur last answers on Byler and Mileven post and I would like to add my perspective on both of these ships realistically (because I like to poke my nose into others businesses /jk)

Well honestly speaking I love Byler, but here I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. Realistically speaking, both ships have their own pros and cons. Mileven did looked cute around 1-2 seasons (if we see it from general audience perspective) and while Byler (for me atleast) looked so much cute and healthy in season 2.

But look let's forget the fact that Mike can't say ily to El for a moment. Their ship still won't make sense, because Mike (when he asked El out) was around 11-12 yrs (as much as I remember). He cared and loved El but not romantically. He showed a genuine care for her because he suddenly founded her in woods (plus he thought she might know about Will). At this time I don't think he had crush on her. El was the first girl who had talked to him without being mean, so that is also the reason for him to act more soft towards her. But since it was first time for Mike to talk to a girl, so the other people around him (like - Lucas and Nancy) thought that he liked her. And Lucas was the one who was pushing this idea that Mike might be in love with her, and after sometime Nancy also confronted him about this. And since surrounding does affects you and it was his first time being friends with a girl, he later thought yes that might be the case. And El didn't even knew what a friend was, so how do we expect her to know the meaning of love is? In conclusion I think that both El and Mike likes this idea of being in love and they do love each other but as I said not romantically. They both don't act like themselves around each other and in last season they both lied to eachother. Both of them need to explore themselves and what they like and then should be in a relationship with someone they like.

While for Byler, I do believe it is much better than Mileven but again Mike still needs to find what he really feels and think. And as for Will, he does know that the kind of love that want is "not normal" in the sense of 90s. He do love Mike in a romantic way but he still tried to fix Mike's and El's relationship, because he cares for both of them. I'm not a Mike hater but him in season 3 and 4 just gives me mixed feelings. Mike outted Will and he during the time when he was supposed to find his "girlfriend", he started talking about how Will didn't talked to him the whole day. Which is actually kinda umm, weird? Like bro u are supposed to find ur girlfriend, so don't change the topic lol.

I'm still looking out for Mike's character development in season 5 because he has so much potential and he is more than "El's boyfriend".

I to be honest wouldn't mind if Byler doesn't becomes canon (actually I will but that's not the point here 🥲) but if Mileven becomes endgame then tbh it would be a kind of a fanservice. Like let's take bylers a side, the large number of audience are general audience and other are Milevens. Most of the general audience are homophobic and they go with basics . Not forget to mention that people still say in this date that "wait people ship Mike and Will??" El is a character who needs to be independent, her story doesn't revolve around finding a boyfriend but it's revolve around finding herself and learning the normal world. Mike is just boiled down to being El's boyfriend but he is more than that, so many people find him relatable and it's not a bad writting if something like this happens. If see from Will's perspective, then his story doesn't fully revolve around finding a partner but it still plays a important role in his character (since he thinks that he can't be loved by someone how he wants). I'm such huge fan of Will and I want what he feels is good for him, I just want to see him happy. I still hope that he comes out to Mike and Mike to comfort him, them having a heart to heart while comforting each other.

Mileven as a ship held a big potential in past but it wasn't taken serious as it should've been. Same goes for Byler, it have potential to be a good friends to lover story and duffers are giving us bit of hints but we will only what is gonna happen to them in season 5.

At the end I want all my three babies to have a happy ending which they deserve (⁠〃ﾟ⁠3ﾟ⁠〃⁠)

I'm gonna be honest with u right now, this is one of the best explained views on a byler pov I've seen!! It was really nice and you've got a point!! i love nice byler fans with all my heart i swear❤️❤️

The first thing i want to say is the fact that we all are getting so mad sometimes about these ships probably bc no one wants to be in a situation where we get to know that we believed in some delusions for years 😭😭

I personally see mike with el, I don't know if things are gonna work out for them but i hope so, yet the most important thing for me is a happy ending for my fav character- Mike, and if you're the one who has right, if byler actually's gonna be endgame, as long as mike is actually happy i think I'll be happy too (well i really hope so but i want mileven to be endgame please lord😭😭😭)

But even skipping the part about who does mike actually love in a romantic way, can i ask u something? Can you really see it, how mike and el break up and then immediately mike goes to his best friend and his ex gf brother and they become a couple? I know that you would really like that to happen but the question is do u really see it happen?😭 Because i just can't I'm so sorry i don't know how it is supposed to happen, we actually don't have much time it's the last season 😭

And I have another question like this is kinda personal but I need to know, do u have something like this sometimes, that you're starting to stress- ,,what if my fav ship actually won't be endgame? what if I'm being delusional?" Don't get me wrong I'm asking these questions to myself all the time because i have to be honest with u it's stressing me out that there's so many byler shippers like it have to mean something right?😭😭😭

If this is not gay then I don't know what is it

My words might not mean anything now, but just remember one thing—even if the world turns on you, I'll always be on your side. 

Yesss

We are going to see the whole party and maybe even Eleven going to high school together 🥺🥺🥺🥺

heyyy I have a question, assuming byler will be endgame, everyone always asks byler fans how they think eleven will react to it so I've heard it many times but my question is - how do you think the whole team will react to it when mike "jumps" from one member to another, do you think that byler endgame could destroy their party a bit? I'm not asking about it in terms of the LGBT relationship ofc,but do you think they would have a problem with it because Will has been Mike's friend since kindergarten - the rest of them have known him for a long time too, do you think that making Byler endgame at the very end of the series in the last season could cause some problems in their party - and if that happened, do you think that the st fandom would start hating on Byler for "destroying" the party? Let me know what you think because I've been thinking about it recently 😭❤️

Let's go with Byler evidences rn, I think that El have kinda doubt that Mike might like Will (not saying this from surity but I just have this speculation). If Byler becomes endgame then I think wouldn't be angry but disappointed with Mike, that he never told her truth. And if that happens then I want them to have a little conversation where Mike tells her how he feels and El tells him how she feels. At the end I think she will accept him as how he is. About the party, it's little complicated for me to explain but I think they will accept him aswell (he still would have to explain a lot to Max lol).

Since I don't want it to happen so suddenly, I also believe Mike would get vecna'd (actually I want him to be vecna'd lol), there is a theory about this on YouTube by lesbianmindflayer, so I would suggest you to watch their video.

It won't break the party because they are friends since their childhoods (especially Will, Mike, Lucas and Dustin). They would be understandable of Mike and Will. Max might take some time to process all this but El would try to tell her that she doesn't mind and have already sort things out with him.

And about the fandom, well I think the homophobic ones would blame more. So Duffers have to be very careful while making them endgame.

DTIYS by @imactuallyreallycool

Finally got some actual time to draw haha. I'm still trying to find an art style, so I know mines looks crappy (no need to tell me that 😔)

I really hate colouring >:(

Will : wow this fishes looks so cool, did you see that one Mike!! Soo beautiful 😍

Mike (focused on Will) : Ya. Soo beautiful ❤️

Reblog because this needs awareness. Remember people, people from both sides have been killed, people from Israel have been held as hostages by Hamas. I have been listening to both sides atp. And so far I have came to a conclusion that all I want is that this war should end quickly. In past I have mixed feelings about this term "Zionism", so please try to understand that all people have different views on Zionism. He acknowledged his mistake and hope that he keeps it that way in future aswell.

People are suffering from both sides so please stop treating this war as a football game. One side suffered more and other suffered less. One thing I want to add is that Hamas are not doing anyone's good. They used the money to buy more weapons which was meant to help Palestine, so please stop idolising them.

P. S. Remember that it's not a apology video, and even if it was one then only people who actually felt attacked by his actions can forgive him

Noah started opening up to a dialogue about Palestine with people around him, I think it's a good step forward!

I would still be vigilant, hold him accountable to what he's saying in the sense that he has to show that he means all of this in the long run, but he is really young and went through a lot of propaganda like I said in posts before... I think people should give others the opportunity to do better and learn in general but especially when people are young and ignorant otherwise we won't go forward and no one will change their minds ever.

We also have to keep in mind that the definition of Zionism has a different meaning for some Jewish people, that meaning comes from propaganda and is obviously opposed on what Zionism is and what it has been doing, but propaganda works so well that some are calling themselves it without considering the context and believing only the direct meaning of wanting a safe place for Jewish people. They have not been able to consider the whole dynamic of power because they are/have been blinded by propaganda.

Transcript :

«Hey guys, it's Noah. I just wanted to come on here super briefly just to discuss everything that's been going on online. I feel like my thoughts and beliefs have been so far misconstrued from anything even close to what I believe and I wanted to just state from my heart how I feel. I only want peace and safety, and security for all innocent people affected by this conflict. I've had many open discussions with friends from Palestine/Palestinian backgrounds and I think those are very important conversations to have and I've learned a lot and one of the takeaways I've had is that we all hope for the same things, that being those innocent people still being held hostage in Gaza to be returned to their families and equally hope for an end of loss of innocent life in Palestine, so many of those people being women and children, and it's horrible to see, and I think anyone with any ounce of humanity would hope for an end to the hostility on both sides. I stand against any killing of any innocent people and I hope you guys all do too and I hope to one day be able to see those two groups live harmoniously together in that region and I hope for 2024 online to see people a little bit more understanding and compassionate and recognize that we're all human regardless of our race, of our ethnicity, of our background, of our country of birth, of our sexuality... of anything. We are all human and we are all the same and we should all love each other for that and support each other and stand together. And stand together for humanity and for peace.»