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Snobs: Nobody Finds That Kind Of A Story/idea Interesting, Sorry.
Snobs: Nobody finds that kind of a story/idea interesting, sorry.
Me: *points* there's people clamoring for this, so there is a potential audience.
Snobs: Those are wrong people, they are too stupid and crazy to know what good storytelling is. They should just go consume (approved thing)
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Kinda what to do of “My Reimagined Warhammer 40k” thread which is not so much as an AU but a prototype of my 40k inspired concept with the inspirations as placeholders
Basically “What if there was clear good and evil in 40k and it was more like Space Tolkien with bits of the Ransom Trilogy and Christian Theology?”
Fandom Woes: Restricting Creatives and Policing Potential Audiences

This is something of an Electric Boogaloo to my previous posts in my problems with Fandoms.
One major complaint I hear a lot from Fandoms wether be Star Wars, Warhammer, Marvel, DC, and so on, which is big companies changing these works fundamentally their unrecognizable and "fanfiction" and the solution is to GateKeep and tell others to do their own things, and plenty of YouTube personalities have pointed out the root of this problem
And this is a heavily opinionated post, so read at your own risk
But there is another factor which I briefly went over in one of my posts
A lot of literary snobs will have you dancing around between writing reimagined AU fanfic which they will chide you being "unrecognizable to the source material" and when you take what you liked and what you wanted and make it it's own thing they brand it as "derivative thinly veiled fanfiction" and will get all pissy if it takes jabs at the inspiration, all while they support creators do the exact same thing to things they don't like.
But also when you point out the potential audience, in my experience those "intellectuals" will proceed to insult them as uncultured and stupid unwashed masses or minority of freaks(and they often flip flop between the two inconsistently) who they can't stand breathing the same air as them.
For example, way back when I was younger and explained what I liked about Warhammer 40k and what I didn't like, most of the fandom used their brains and were civil with me about it in their disagreement.
But then some among the fandom told me I should just shut up and go watch Star Wars and Lord of The Rings.
And if I may repeat a point, Iconic Comics created Kamen America because they didn't like what was done with Captain Marvel, so they took what they liked about her and what they wanted, combined other elements to create Kamen America and The Kamen Corps

Which then people started screaming Kamen America was just a "porno Captain Marvel rip-off" all while supporting The Boys which has an evil Superman and nasty rendition of superheroes written by a guy who said hostile things about the genre

I expressed about what I liked about RWBY and what I didn't like and what I wanted and how I was gonna used what I liked and wanted to make an reimagined AU and OG work and got bashed as "leeching off Monty's work" and "RWBY Christian Propaganda" and I should just shut up and go watch Marvel or Disney, or if I do it, I gotta be apologetic and ashamed about it and accept the "Consequences" which to me, comes off as a threat.

Which these same people also cheer on the Anti-Narnian His Dark Materials Trilogy written by a guy who hates CS Lewis and Christianity with a passion.

These people don't want others to tamper around with what they love, but they don't want them to take what they like and what they wanted to make their own thing either, all while they cheer on those who do the same thing with stuff us "wrong people" like.

and I have a theory why this is.
The "Intellectual Elite" of Literature do not like it when "The Wrong People" take matters into their own hands, at least in ways they do not approve of, or unless the dissident does it while professing its ultimately nothing compared to what "the right people" do. Especially now that we are in a climate in which people on the fence are more receptive to indie voices.
These prigs want to lock things down and keep all dissent under their control to keep things nice and copacetic for their own ego.

And here's the reality check for these people, and I don't know how many I speak for
I do not give a pingas how "objective" and "educated" you are about these things, I and other creatives are under little to no obligation to regulate our creativity and force ourselves to change our feelings and keep our mouths shut and follow your little hypocritical rules because you think you know better than everyone else.
We are under little to no obligation to not take what we liked and what we wanted and not take jabs at the inspiration, especially when you all support creatives who do the exact same thing towards things you don't like.
We are under little to no obligation to "broaden our audiences" when in the past it left us getting the short end of the stick so many times when you refuse to do the same with what you create and enjoy.
And by your own logic, especially when you say "Its not gonna change canon or its 'trajectory'" then why do you need to come in and police everyone else and lecture how horrible we all are for liking things that you don't, while lecturing us about doing what your doing right now? If you were truly secure in what you knew to be the objective end-all-be-all, then you'd never had gone out of your way to open your mouth.
And if you decide to have us "own up to the consequences of our actions" which we both know is a veiled threat to punish people who do things you don't like, or be complacent when abuse happens towards those you disagree with, then I and a good number of people will fight back if it escalates to harassment, bypassing our "curations" and slander.
and I can hear these so-called critics say
"Well, what if you make your stuff and you turn out to be wrong?"

If we don't do so well, nothing happens, its not gonna be like Across The Spider-Verse where a big-ass hole is gonna rip through reality.
If we are wrong, it's our ass. This will be done with money out of our own pocket and at none of your expense.
Take your own advise
"It's not for you, its not gonna change canon or its trajectory, disengage the material and move on.”
Because that advise only works on Social Media, when you are fine with canon is going
Kinda funny when snobs consider your work or what you enjoy a bad because its only enjoyed by a smaller audience which then they pride themselves on they liking something thats enjoyed by the masses "it speaks to the human condition"
Then if you like something thats resonates by a larger audience, they flip it to "enjoyed by the unwashed masses" which then these prigs boast like something thats niche its because "we enlightened few understand something deeper and higher."
When it was the reverse logic 5 minutes ago

Cliche, niche, broad, what makes money, and tampering around with concepts in dissent and distaste is "bad" unless "the right people" like it and get what *they* want
These people resort to nothing buttery and labeling to stuff they dislike and we gotta take their word for it
While the likes of us gotta justify what we like and want by bending over backwards, jump through hoops, and do jumping jacks and somersaults
And they might dismiss it anyway as “subjective feelings” and “unsubstantial” which once again, they don’t elaborate and we just gotta take their word, and we’re supposed to abide to their nebulous measures of what is “objectively well written”
Reminds me how Jesus describes the Pharisees in Matthew 23: 4

“They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”
This is why I'm so skeptical of people who talk about being "objective" when it comes to these things, because their logic is fluid and conforms to whatever make their way right and everyone else's wrong. Even when they end up contradicting themselves.

Like Andrew Ketterley from The Magician’s Nephew, they’re a bunch of peddling magicians who think because they themselves are "objective" by default because they "know objective things" they don't need to follow the rules like everyone else because everything they do is “perfectly rooted in objective reality”, they alone are “objective” and everyone else is “subjective” and therefor “subject(ed)” to their “objective” will
When “Objective” mean things that apply to *everybody*
Its like Gnosticism,
They (G)now, with a “G” and you don’t, so its different when its them
Woke: Spider-Man x Morrigan
Bespoke: Spider-Man x MJ and Ghost Rider x Morrigan
Double dates of tired superhero husbands who are happily suffocated by booba of bombshell wives.
Just a thought