The Actress Of That Girl That Was In Kali's Crew Is Going To Atlanta... This Could Mean That The Whole

The actress of that girl that was in Kali's crew is going to Atlanta... This could mean that the whole crew is back theoretically but it's not confirmed!

Increasingly convinced that the last songs on Will’s playlist will align perfectly with the ending.

They practically gave Byler endgame away with this song alone.

//the first shadow spoilers

i am once again convinced that they set up byler in s4 to be a foil to hentty and give will the happy ending henry could’ve gotten with patty if things went right. will’s love for mike, his friends and family, and himself are going to be the key to the finale. if they miss out on byler after this and if they don’t give will powers then it’s just inconsistent writing.

i also think will’s powers are going to be very different from henry/el. my theory as of now is henry/el being destruction and will being creation, but that’s a lot to hope for. i do know that el and the other kids have henry’s powers because they got it from his blood, but will is a completely unique entity who has had his own personal interactions with the mind flayer and we have no idea what that means.

i wish they weren’t so subtle and quiet about will’s importance to the plot in s3&4 because the potential they have with this character is phenomenal.

people who assign henry/edward creel/vecna/one evil at birth are so boring to me. all i hear is that they can't stomach discussions around grey morality. boo honestly.

also, notwithstanding the creel family murder (which is 1. partially justified due to virginia's abuse and 2. unreliable due to numerous scenes that were purposefully kept vague and inconsistent by the creators), eleven kills her way out in S1 just like one did in S4??? which technically puts both of them on a near equal playing field, given their background of being child test subjects????

and yet henry is the evil one with no redeeming qualities... make it make sense

no this pattern is interesting to me too

When El does it, and achieves a higher confirmed kill count by age 12 than Henry had before age thirty-two...It's a girlboss moment.

When Henry at most killed Virginia, a direct abuser who was going to have him shipped off to Brenner, Martin fucking Brenner, who he had met before and was actively trying to escape...He's a monster who was born evil and never had any chance at a nice, normal life. We also have exactly zero proof that he had anything to do with Alice's death.

That's the whole point of Nancy's plan to kill him as an adult! He can't fight back when he's trancing someone! He's incapacitated, totally dialed in on the one person he's trancing. Alice was still alive when Victor's trance began. Thus, she was not killed by Henry. It's not physically possible.

Henry's kill count as of age 12 is exactly one person. And that's assuming he killed Virginia at all! The circumstances are so fucked that we can't even say that with 100% certainty.

We reassure El over and over again that she isn't a monster...Because she isn't. She's a child escaping her abusers. Somehow we can acknowledge that about her, but we can't carry over that same attitude for young Henry?

Bullshit.

When El lashes out in fear and kills a bunch of people, she's a superhero and we should be sympathetic. When Henry lashes out and kills one (1) direct abuser...he's a monster.

Make it make sense. Make the math start mathing.

And granted (timeline fuckery aside), adult Henry has a set of actions that end up being quite different from El's in ST1 (i.e. killing the children, which I have my own thoughts about that aren't necessarily relevant here).

But strictly on the basis of killing the guards and orderlies? He was completely justified.

He'd been abused by them for twenty fucking years. We see it happen. We watch him be assaulted and abused by orderlies ON SCREEN.

He deserves to get his pound of flesh from them. He is justified, just like El was justified in killing the orderlies and agents who abused her.

Same scenario. Same actions.

Anyway. Light and love <3

Spicy bylerism is growing everyday and there's nothing you annoying puritans can do to stop us. Pandora's Box has been opened.

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

I'm still on the "Dad... Was right... They were all... Right about me... " while sobbing Will coming out scene and mad bonus if they don't chicken out and include a good old "fag" there like. Ok you can separate your gay character from the homophobia that has shaped him by having other characters deliver it / have it delivered to the face of other characters for so long.

Even the van scene, as defining as it was, was coded and a large section of it was centered around Will's relationship to Mike and what Mike means to him. Will's sexuality reveal not to the audience but to the other characters is absolutely tied to byler but its root has always been Will's "being different", and while his feelings for Mike will probably accompany the coming out to whoever it is, the importance that's been placed in his own queerness and his characteristics means they must take central stage.

Imo there's a huge opportunity to explore targeted homophobia towards Will in his vecna vision via memories or vecna!hallucinations before they inevitably parallel the troy scene/show any kind of actual homophobia to him. This way his hurt over his sexuality can be more connected to the things he was first targeted about as a child other than his hurt over Mike not loving him back, towards which the van scene definitely leaned on more; for his s5 scenes, Mike should be the shorter mention and a non-coded elaboration of his queer experience in his own words should be the focus