Ascended Astarion Walks Confidently Into A Gathering Of Nobles And Politicians Only To Realize He's In

Ascended Astarion walks confidently into a gathering of nobles and politicians only to realize he's in over his head the longer he listens to everyone talk. Everything he's known before has changed. Laws and solutions are being suggested for the current situations that would have never been considered back when he was Magistrate. Half of the jargon is unfamiliar to him now.

An intense anxiety washes over him as more unfamiliar eyes fall on him and, barely excusing himself, he bolts for the exit, nearly knocking several people over.

He can't do this.

Tav doesn't have time to react when the doors of the palace slam open and shut behind them before they are nearly tackled to the floor in a tight hug. A familiar sob reaches their ears, calming the quelling rage, and bared fangs at the idea ANYONE had the gall to attack them and they immediately turn as Astarion buries his face in their neck. His fingers bite into their clothing as his knees give way, taking both of them to the floor as he hyperventilates, trying to tell them what happened.

"I knew it was too soon for you to go back to that..." they sigh, running their hand through his hair and rubbing his back while leaving gentle kisses anywhere they can reach. "Calm down, Starlight. It's not the end of the world."

It takes some coaxing but they're able to get him to his feet and guide him back toward their bedroom. Astarion keeps his head down and refuses to look Tav in the eye as they draw him a bath.

"Relax, my heart. All in due time," they whisper as he settles into the tub and they wrap their arms around his shoulders from behind, nuzzling him as they run a hot washcloth over his pale, heaving chest. "You have the first part of your wish. The second part will take time and work. You're rusty with socializing, crowds especially, and a lot has changed in two centuries. You only have to brush up on some of the newer norms, that's all... We can make a day of looking for books and scrolls that can help with that. You'll have Baldur's Gate in the palm of your hand in no time, Darling."

After some time and the tub water cooling, Astarion gives a deep, stable exhale and turns his head to lean against his consort's, his hand wrapping around the one holding the washcloth. This earns him a kiss on his temple.

"What would I do without you?"

"Go cry in a corner somewhere and lick your wounds until you get angry and sassy enough to try again," Tav sighs, making him roll his eyes.

"Ha, ha. Very funny," he replies dryly before bringing their hand up to kiss it. "Thank you, my greatest treasure."

Ascended Astarion comes home from a meeting with the town leaders one day and finds that Tav is nowhere to be found. He does not catch their scent outside, indicating that they did not leave, and tearing apart the palace yields nothing.

Furious, he grabs one of his fanatics, who tells him that Tav is in their shared bedroom. They've been there the entire time. They hadn't been feeling too good lately, citing the intake of bad blood which made them stay home. Astarion believes this to be impossible since he has already gone through their room. He drags the fanatic to the room and practically throws them in, demanding they point Tav out if they are so sure. The fanatic stares at him out of fear and points up to the high ceiling. The glare on Astarion's face melts upon seeing something small and silver in the corner of the room.

Surprised, he quickly begins climbing the walls, his eyes fixed on the spot. He slows when he realizes he's looking at a small fuzzy bat sound asleep, much smaller than his own bat form. Tav's scent is all over it and Astarion is now convinced that this is his beloved consort.

"Tav...?" he whispers in astonishment. "You... You figured out how to...?"

He wipes his hands on his chest before carefully reaching out and gently scooping the bat up. It chatters some as he jumps down and starts looking it over. Its small body feels hot in his cool hands, perhaps a fever. He moves to the bed and lays the sleepy creature down, tenderly rubbing its small back with his thumbs. When it opens its eyes, it gives something akin to a small hiccup and in a puff of black smoke, Tav lays before him in their humanoid form with wide eyes.

Before they could speak, a wide smile spreads across Astarion's face and he scoops them into a hug, excitingly talking about how they could now go for nightly flights and how cute they were as a bat. He prattles on about how they must be able to learn other abilities while Tav feels sick and heaves the contents of their stomach onto the floor beside the bed. Astarion pauses and clears his throat.

"Oh dear... First things first. We'll bring you fresh blood to replace that..."

True!

I'm hoping for more expanded interactions with companions and with Lord Astarion in the next patches, maybe Definitive if that happens.

*Aggressively looking at the artwork with Briarwoods* THIS MOOD YES

I think if we were allowed to hug Astarion more and show non-sexual affection in both forms, he'd get that twig out of his ass once he ascends B/

Oh, to just walk up and hug him after ascension, echoing the hug we gave him after he confessed. Wonder how'd he react. Words are nothing compared to actions, and that hug proves it.

So much can still be done for him in this form and too many people are sleeping on it.

Why can't we be the next Briarwoods? That woman will do anything for her vampire husband and that is a MOOD.

Okay see you get it though. I hope you don't mind if I go on a bit about my thoughts about ascended Astarion because I feel like a lot of his character gets misinterpreted.

First off one of the things I see most in fanfics for him is that he's changed and lost himself, or that he's all of a sudden evil. I don't think that's true, he's always been possessive, controlling, and evil it's just now he has the power to actually act on those things.

for possessive it's clear that once you romance him he’s not much for sharing but may put up with it out of fear that the first person he's ever cared about will leave him if he doesn't bend to them, on top of that even if he did act on those tendencies not only would the party back Tav up, both verbally and physically if it got to that point as most of the party doesn't trust him, but Tav is also scary to fight 1v1. In becoming an ascendent and Tav becoming his bride/groom he actually has the power to push and sway them with little to no repercussions as by that point there's very little anyone can do to stop him and if Tav has agreed to become his spawn, literally dying for him, it's safe for him to assume he has them wrapped around his finger

The controlling and evil part is more obvious but also glossed over as you need to make persuasion checks for him to give up control in certain situations while a lot of his approval choices are just cruel or evil. Be it because he was like that before he died, he's a spawn that normally becomes evil by D&D rules, or he's just had so much abuse and cruelty inflicted on him that seeing it done to others for once feels good. He actively dislikes being kind because it's something he needed but never got, so much so that the only way he really becomes “good” is because Tav has the choice to gently push him into becoming so. Without Tav and them being kind or growing close to him if he had theoretically been able to do everything on his own, he absolutely would have ascended without even thinking twice.

Also the idea that he no longer loves tav after ascending makes no real sense to me either, while I havent confirmed it for myself apparently if you're bit romancing him its easier to convince him to stop the ritual then it is if you're romancing him. To me that speaks volumes because while he's scared and looking power to protect himself, he's also now doing it because he loves and cares about someone. He wants to protect tav and in his mind this is the best way to do it. A lot of people at this point point to the whole “he’ll always view you as degrading yourself” line but to me, that's always felt like him knowing that you could walk away, and be something greater than just his. Is he powerful? Yes, but that doesn't mean the scars have healed no matter how much he may pretend, that leaves a lot of fear and self-hate to linger. Tav as a character is either set up to be a believed hero or a ruler as the absolute (either in bhaals name or their own) so by choosing to become his spawn you are essentially giving up the power and glory willingly and I think on some level he knows that even if at the point he doesn't know exactly what is being given up.

I think this is reflected well when he says “you have given me everything. Thank you” its the most sincere we hear him after he ascends because he's right. As the player we've given him power, love, and are willing to tie ourselves to him forever thus forgoing anything else we could have been or done. As to why that's the most sincere we hear from him? Because it's private, he can be vulnerable with the person he loves and who's never turned their back on him but for others, he doesn't have that assurance and thus in his mind he can't afford to show weakness so, of course, he's going to come off as a bit colder and distant, he loves the player but showing weakness and vulnerability to anyone but them puts both him and them in danger.

I've pointed out that Astarion is not a good guy in the beginning. People want to play him off as some kind of prince when he's the exact opposite. He's the guy your family will disown you over, possibly the guy who will convince you to kill them for disapproving of him too.

When Larian's interview stated that Ascended Astarion is still Astarion, I was convinced that this wasn't a change at all. This is just who he was, only amplified and over time, he will come down from it. To what level, who knows, but with "mortal pleasures", possibly leaning into feelings, mixed in, he's not going to be able to keep that up without sheer exhaustion following. He feels LONELY after only 6 months.

I mean, if you look back at him throughout the game, it's basically foreshadowing what you have on your hands, and still do if you go the spawn route. There's no telling if he will act this way if you bring him back to life as he would have more options for seizing any kind of power, something he's been trying to do the entire ride. It's ten times worse if you're romancing him as you've been pulled into that fold. It feels like no matter what you do for him, he's always going to be vying for power, even if he doesn't outright say it. You would LITERALLY have to sit on him to make sure he doesn't kill someone or go bolting for some artifact with rumored power behind your back given his personality. The temptation will ALWAYS be there.

I'm not sure if DnD vampire rules even apply to him becoming evil or not considering they don't really touch on his life BEFORE Cazador. All we really know is he was a magistrate and he did something to piss the Gur off and it got him killed, though I'm more of the camp that Cazador 100% staged it to get ahold of him. I am also of the camp that the way he approves of things hinges on the fact that he's been conditioned that people in power have to be cruel so he will be the same, like faking it until he makes it.

If Tav wasn't an adventurer or someone who didn't prove themselves throughout the game through wit and strength, I'd say, yeah, Astarion could get away with hurting them and all and not have to worry about repercussions but that isn't the case. Any Tav can CRUSH and outsmart him and has made enough allies to do it. Wouldn't matter if Tav goes along with the abuse, if word gets out that Astarion is hurting them, he will have a POWERFUL army at his door to take him down and talk sense into Tav. He'll have another Karlach on his hands if Tav wakes up. Reducing Tav to this meek, weak little victim and that being their only personality under his rule after everything they've been through is just... I don't know, strange? And I'm not minimizing anything either. I've seen relationship abuse before, even written fics highlighting it in the past, and how it can happen, it's just this comes off more as projecting than anything we've seen in-game.

Even if Tav was an embraced Dark Urge, Bhaal is NOT going to stand for his Chosen to be treated that way. They are his avatar, after all. One word from Bhaal and DU is going to kill Astarion, no questions asked. The Dark Urge isn't going to risk angering their father now that they're back in his good graces AND have been gifted the Slayer form, something Fel says they've been wishing for for so long. Being ascended is nothing in the eyes of the God of Murder. Astarion has a lot more riding on how he treats Tav than one thinks and I don't think he's dumb enough to put his own life in danger like that. He's self-preserving and that would come first and foremost despite having any kind of power. Villains tend to build up their defenses.

I do believe Astarion, ascended or otherwise, loves Tav. There isn't a doubt in my mind that he doesn't. The separate difficulties in talking him down during the ascension and the fact he wants them to live their best life give it away. It's silly to think that he'd lose all feelings for Tav JUST because he ascended. If anything, it magnified them. It's not like if Tav turns into a Mindflayer without a soul or anything when it would make sense lore-wise (I mean, even Withers points it out and the idea that Mindflayers only retain memories, they're no longer the person they once were) and he'll end up mourning their loss. He's still got some stuff to work out, but it's still there. He has an issue with that word which is another thing that goes over people's heads.

I do agree with you on the whole degrading thing. It's not in the way Tav is sullying themselves, it's just them giving up so many other, potentially more powerful options which could be toxic for Astarion and make him try to push himself to be more powerful to make up for it if he thinks he can to strive to be something Tav may want or deserves. It's on the same level as Gale trying to impress you with magic and such and you have to tell him that he's enough to have your attention.

I think Astarion is a mostly private person forced to be out in the open in general, which is why you can only get genuine and sincere reactions out of him in private. Everything else is announced otherwise as he's used to being essentially a prostitute for all to gawk at.

Let's face it too, if Tav can "gently" push Astarion into doing "good" before, like most "good" Tavs do, nothing is saying they can't do that after he ascends either. His personality has not changed that drastically. It's only amplified. You grounded him as a spawn, he'll need the same treatment after ascending too as he's riding that power high that hits him with everything he hasn't felt in 200 years. He needs to get that out of his system.

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