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“Why is it always Rhaegar that fans talk about when it comes to what happened to Elia and not Tywin or Gregor?”
Because Tywin and Gregor are presented unambiguously as villains in the text. Gregor does not have any depth to him at all. He is cruel, violent, and evil. There is not much more to say about him. He did something absolutely horrific without remorse. Tywin is more interesting but still entirely unsympathetic and unambiguously evil. Even Cersei, who idolizes Tywin, thinks he went to hell. Plus we saw both of them alive on page, so there’s less speculation to be done. Meanwhile Rhaegar never appeared alive on page and we only have information from various characters. He’s more of a mystery to the reader, and he’s not presented as an unambiguous villain. Most characters think about him positively. The only one to really speak ill of him is Robert, who is awful. The kind of person Rhaegar was is more up to the readers to decide. There is simply more room for discussion.
Second, Tywin and Gregor are held accountable by characters in the narrative already for the death of Elia and her children. Their culpability is not something to be discussed. It’s obvious. And characters already find it vile. You could make the case that since we don’t get a lot of animosity towards Rhaegar in the Martell POV chapters, that Oberyn’s anger was directed at Gregor, that they don’t assign any blame to Rhaegar. But two things: 1. Rhaegar is dead and gone, whereas Gregor and Tywin were still living and able to be held accountable. For the readers, all three are fictional. And, now, dead. And 2. The characters not blaming Rhaegar isn’t an indication that he’s blameless. The readers are often invited to come to our own conclusions about what is wrong or right, evil or righteous. Jaehaerys is regarded in universe as a good man and great king. But we the readers know that he slaughtered his teenage daughter’s lover while she watched. We get to decide for ourselves if Jaehaerys was a good man regardless of the opinions of the characters.
Gregor and Tywin are undoubtedly the most culpable for the deaths of Elia and her kids. One ordered it and the other did it. This is known and nobody is going to contest it. It does not erase this fact to say that if Rhaegar had not absconded with Lyanna, leaving his wife and kids in King’s Landing, they may have survived. It was short-sighted of him. He didn’t know he would die. He didn’t know that his wife and kids would suffer—but he knew that what he was doing would cause political unrest, and he knew that his father had no love for his wife and kids. Perhaps Rhaegar truly believed that having a child with Lyanna was the key to saving the realm. Even if this is true, he still bears some responsibility for the deaths of Elia and her children. I’m sure he did not think they would be harmed—but therein lies the problem. He should have thought more of them, even if his intentions were noble, because he knew he was going to incite political unrest and he knew his father didn’t care for Elia and her kids.
Saying that Tywin Lannister, Amory Lorch, and Gregor Clegane are evil and culpable in the deaths of Elia, Aegon, and Rhaenys is just very “water is wet.” It’s preaching to the choir. We can all see this. The characters in the story see this. Trying to understand the kind of person Rhaegar was, including the BAD, since we’re given mostly positive views of him, is something to actually talk about. The only one really speaking ill of Rhaegar in universe is Robert and it’s most certainly NOT because he cared about Elia and the kids. Elia’s end was tragic and it echoes through the story just like Lyanna’s. Speculating about her relationship with her husband (which GRRM himself has said was complex) and what he could have done to protect her is just a matter of investigating a series of events that is still rather shrouded and thus is actually worthy of discussion







Sansa stark & Podrick Payne : the lions, A Lady and a Knight
Princess and the squire : a princess who aspires to be the ultimate image of a lady, a squire who "trains" under a brave chivalrous knight
Crush : its layed out that Pod probably has a crush on sansa or is shy around her,she's completely oblivious to this however.
Pets : Sansa's direwolf being known as lady for her personality, Pod had a dog named hero it kinda makes me cry
Orphaned Hostage : Both parents being dead or absent . Sansa's been in an hostage situation since book 1 and podrick...He's FINE ok , maybe Podrick has been taken as a hostage by lady stoneheart thats a reason why Brienne goes along with the deal of bringing Jaime to stoneheart.
Lions : For house Lannister , sansa is surrounded by Lannisters,almost married Lancel and now is married to Tyrion,Podrick’s house is sworn under Lannisters , he squires for Tyrion might be knighted by a Lannister. Lannisters have their colours as red and gold, it’s unconfirmed why house Payne has gold coins on their sigils but might be related to the saying of “Lannisters always pays their debts”
Slaying giants (?) : for sansa its self explanatory for eventually slaying petyr but for pod....OK hear me out before you stone me i think i'd be sick if Pod was the one to slay(or help slay) lem lemoncloak in the same way jaime helped slay the smiling knight as a squire of Arthur dayne, he already pushed a knight in the rivers🤷🏽♀️. There’s a chance Jaime will knight brienne and podrick once they defeat stoneheart’s brotherhood. He constantly talks about killing people who want to harm brienne that’s my baby✨
Yvain, the Knight of the Lion : mostly allusions as he squires under 2 Lannisters (Tyrion and Jaime being there as a possibility in the future ) but could also be taken for brienne’s travels/relations with Jaime in the riverlands and cersei as the spurned lady, strangely brienne teaches a Payne to fight and a Payne trained Jaime for awhile, if podrick is turning 15 in twow he’d be the same age as Jaime when he was knighted. yvain also slayed a giant, killed 3 knights and his cousin was killed in an enchanted forest (Cedric in the riverlands) and had a story involving coins.
rhaena targaryen parallels: im DEEPLY reaching here but consider the allusions and opposite parallels of sansa and rhaena targaryen, in the end she marries Garmund hightower unexpectedly , garmund was also a noble squire ,both came from families who hated each other, both podrick and sansa are around the same age as were garmund and rhaena
Courtly love : Sansa's story involves LOTS of arranged marriages,plans and schemes without much care for her happiness or done for political gain it'd be nice if she at least gets to choose her lover in the future, courtly love in medieval romances/poetry often involved a Lady who's arranged marriages were mostly out of obligation/economic value and a knight who's romantic love or devotion was experienced outside of the marriage, the Knight was pious,brave,often of lower status and chivalrous while often having quests in the lady's name or affection, Podrick is currently on his own quest to find tyrion in relation to brienne's quest to find sansa, it’s not marriage but courtly love could also be an answer to sansa's wish of romanticism that's been denied to her throughout the story.
Roman de la rose : a poem related to courtly love depicting a Lady as a rose, Sansa's often associated with flowers, she's given a red rose by loras tyrell
Princesse lointaine : related to courtly love of an unattainable princess, Pod is often extremely awkward with sansa,she's closed off emotionally in king's landing and she seems far away while he's trying to find her but they haven’t met up again in the story how they interact later on is yet to be seen
It was Aerys' fault. Dragonestone was the safest place for them. It was not him who brought them to kingslanding.
There is no one person at fault. To say it is Aerys’s fault alone is just as wrong as saying it is only Rhaegar’s, Tywin’s, or Gregor’s. The tragedy of Elia and her children may have been avoided if any one of these men had acted differently. Had Rhaegar acted differently he may have been able to prevent his family from being brought to King’s Landing. If Tywin hadn’t ordered the murders, they almost certainly wouldn’t have happened. Had Gregor and Amory not so being gleefully willing to kill an innocent woman and her small children, they may have been able to survive. Aerys created the situation; Tywin, Gregor, and Amory killed them; and Rhaegar failed to be there for them. Doesn’t mean that there is no honor in Rhaegar wanting to save the realm from the Others. He’s a fascinating character. It’s more worth talking about what Rhaegar could’ve done to protect them because, of all 5 of these men, he’s the only one who would have. His relationship with them was dysfunctional but I do believe he did care for them. That sets him apart from the other culpable characters. He cared enough to let Elia in on his council and even tell her about the prophecy to some extent. If rumors are to be believed, he cared enough to try to get rid of Aerys. He still could have acted with more caution to ensure the safety of his family. If he could hide Lyanna in the tower of joy, he could’ve hidden Elia and the kids. Being on Dragonstone is not hidden when you are married to the prince of Dragonstone.
Actresses who should play Targaryens:
LADY GAGA and I am so serious about her as Shiera

TILDA SWINTON: Elaena, anyone? Or actually even Visenya. I know everyone loves making gifs with that one woman from Vikings but Visenya is said to be austere. Elaena is a great choice too because I think Tilda really could embody “more beautiful at 70 than at 17”


Mia Goth: she’s got that otherworldly look. Could be Daella or Deana the Defiant


Hunter Schaefer: she has a very striking facial structure and with her smile that’s a bit angled up to one side, I think she’d be a great Alyssa

Gemma Ward: EXTREMELY ethereal. I’d pick her for Daenys, Rhaenys the conquerer, Naerys, or even Dany

Julia Garner: perhaps Rhaena the black bride or Deena the defiant?

Abbey Lee Kershaw: perhaps Saera as an adult? She has such striking features and a real intensity to her

Bella Heathcote: Rhaena daughter of Aegon III, perhaps? Could also do Naerys or Dany

And these are werewolf movies like come on
Revisiting Ginger Snaps because I’m making a Ginger costume and actually Katherine Isabelle and Emily Perkins at this age are the perfect Sansa and Arya fancasts to me. Katherine has the light auburn hair and blue eyes and Emily has the dark hair, long face, and grey eyes





