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I’m unfortunately talking about the flip side again (I can smell the comments now so I’m is gonna say I’m joking when I say unfortunately. I’m talking about it because I want to, not because I think it’s necessary. If I relish thoguht the game was THAT terrible, i wouldn’t put effort into talking about it)

So I made a post on TikTok about this game and how bad it was, and I wanted to talk about some of the comments I got/saw under other posts.

1. “This game was from Jeckas perspective, that’s why everything was so out of character and different”

I find this to be a dumb counterclaim for a few reasons. One: the only different thing we see was how Nicole treated Jecka during that foot ending + the Jeffrey dying ending. every other character,personality, setting, style was the same. Nicole had similar references to pedophilia and men, Jeffrey literally liked feet in the re up and it’s just carried over, the teachers being freaks, Ari being a girl kisser, Emily being a druggie, everything was the same besides Nicole in BOTH foot routes.

2. “Every character acted different, they were just showing their true selves.”

I also find this to be a dumb counterclaim considering they’ve already had two whole games to show their true selves, and have. Like I said previously, Jefferey still likes feet, Ari is still gay and would kiss any girl, all of the male teachers are still freaky to kids. It would make zero sense to say this game specifically is where they acted like the,selves since we see everyone THE MOST in the re up. It was purely this game that was different.

3. “Nicole is petty/a sociopath, she’d absolutely do that to Jeckas dad”

While I do agree that Nicole is petty and sociopathic, she still wouldn’t have gone that far with Jecka. It’s not a “what she did” argument, it’s a “who she did it to” argument. As my prime example: Ari stole an excuse Nicole commonly used to escape homework, and as a result Nicole mentally and verbally abused her. This small thing Nicole took as an attack turned into Ari literally not dating women again out of fear of abuse. Meanwhile, Jecka wouldn’t let Nicole crash with her when Nicole was homeless, and Nicole just guilt tripped her. This wasn’t necessarily an attack, but Nicole did take it personally. Yet all she did was tell jecka how shitty being homeless was. Plus the aspect of effort. Nicole only seemed to want to put in effort into ruining people’s lives when it came to not knowing or not liking them. Why would she put in all of the effort to ruin Jeckas life not only because it’s Jecka, but also for something so small as not telling her how she got into footwork? I also think people are forgetting what sociopaths are. Sociopaths don’t real,y reel empathy or understand people’s emotions, but that in no way means they can’t form connections or care for those around them. Nicole, while not maybe understanding why Jecka would be upset, still protects her feelings and defends her. So yes, Nicole is a sociopath. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t care about Jecka. This leads me to my next comment.

4. “Nicole doenst actually like Jecka, it was just fun for her”

I fully disagree, point blank period. Nicole clearly cares for her. We see this at LEAST two times. 1: when Nicole literally bullied Jeffery’s to the point of YEAR LONG COUNSELING with the PEDOPHILE TEACHER her gains absolutely NOTHING talking to just so Jecka could smoke without getting gawked at. It benefited her absolutely nothing to do that, but she did it anyways specifically for Jeckas well being. (Even though Nicole and others have stated that Nicole only does stuff when she gains from it.) and the other instance where she helps her steal a CD/ shirt. Again, something that didn’t benefit her in any way, yet she did it FOR Jecka. I’m in no way saying Nicole is a good friend, because she isn’t, I’m saying she cares for jecka at least a little.

5. “The feet endings were on brand for class of 09, it was just shock value.”

to some extent I do agree. Class of 09 was made to shock and uncomfort people, it was the creators intention to make it edgy. However there’s a difference between South Park dark humor edgy (like it’s trying to be) and full on fetishizing. The dark humor aspect of it all wasn’t there in my opinion because it wasn’t even funny, it was JUST weird. I’ve seen some argue that it’s supposed to be that weird, and I get it. But compared to the first two games it was just distasteful. Clsss of 09, and the re up were shocking and weird because you never ever see games talk about how creepy adult men are towards kids or that it’s areal world issue that we’re ignoring. But what was the issue supposed to be in the flip side with the feet endings? That people with foot fetishes exist? Wow so funny guys! But in all seriousness, at first I couldn’t quite place my finger on why this one was different. In both Nicole and Jeckas sex work endings, they experienced weird men obsessed with their bodies, informed the other one of their sex work, made decent money off of it, benefited from it if even just a small amount, and felt disgusted with themselves sooner or later because of it. But then I found out why Nicole’s story was so much more consumable and entertaining. It was because in the end, she accepted her struggle, she realized it fucked her up and she’s coping with it, she’s genuinely trying. But with Jeckas ending Nicole literally gets hired by her dad, purposely makes sure they get caught, and laughs in her face at how pathetic her and her dad are. And then, Jecka kill’s herself. The entire ending was fucked up, even for the usual dark humor edgy aspect of class of 09. I’m not saying the creator should’ve made it funny, beaus he shouldn’t have. Nicole’s ending was bitter, and portrayed as such in a way that was hard to watch but still made you think “wow, that was good,” I’m saying I think it would’ve been better if they didnt show such graphic details of Jeckas sex work. During Nicole’s ending, it was breiefky mentioned what she did, and they went into detail later on. But with jecka, they actively showed if I can remember 4 and a half graphic scenarios of her with these freaks, the weird shit they said to her, and then still showed how happy she was with the money after? This part is probably more opinionated than the rest, but it genuinely felt weird to me how they played this out, and I would’ve personally enjoyed it if they went more in depth about how gross jecka felt about the whole thing instead of just being like “oh yeah, she didn’t like it but her breaking point was her friend doing it to her dad. NOT the selling her body” which was a stupid choice in my eyes considering jecka breaks down to a therapist about how gross she felt. Why only make it sometimes that she feels gross? Why JUST that one part? And then during that therapy session she isn’t taken seriously because how much she makes?? That felt so stale.

So while I guess what I’m saying is it wasn’t technically out of class of 09s boundary set, I’m saying this time they did a shitty job conveying it in a way that was both entertaining, funny, sad, and bittersweet. It was all just bitter.

6. “I liked the game though!”

that’s perfectly fine! I’m glad you enjoyed it and you got your moneys worth. I’m in no way saying everyone has to agree with me, I’m just saying my opinion. If you liked it, good for you, I just personally didn’t. The few moments I did enjoy were the 7 seconds joke, the hatman scene, and the killing Ari route. The rest was kinda meh

Im hoping and praying that , the flip side gets retconed and the anime doesn't have weird foot fetish sexualization of Jecka

BUT has ; Jecka's dad geting killed and Jecka dancing on his grave , Ari gets more then THREE FUCKING SCENES, the jokes not being fucking ass, THE STORY NOT BEING FUCKING TORTURE PORN

And the characters (Mainly Nicole) not being write so badly , no amount of pityness could drive Nicole to do weird foot fetish with some geriatic ass pedo, SHE LITERRALLY FINDS THEM REPULSIVE

You ever think…

That you could do something better than the person who originally made something? Like when fans replace sequels with fanfiction, or when people mod a game that could’ve been better if it just… added those things they’re modding in.

I feel like this a lot, & I mean A LOT a lot. It happens with everything, shitty sequels, mediocre games, dog-water adaptations, everything.

I felt this way with Class of ‘09 The Flipside.

Now, although many people would already be on my side by now, some of those people I don’t really want on my side. What I mean is, I liked flipside. I thought it was good & well written, it was still decently funny & all but… it was missing something… it was missing a LOT actually.

Basically, what I mean by ‘I could’ve done it better’ is I mean I could’ve made it more funny, & give Jecka at least ONE actual happy ending. I mean, the endings make sense to me, they’re just as dark as the previous game but felt much worse considering it’s not Nicole making a joke about it at the end. This is the same problems, trials & tribulations viewed from the perspective of someone who feels emotion, causing you to feel it too. A good piece of media makes you feel the same as the characters in it, & SBN3 did that perfectly.

I just feel like I could’ve done the same, but made people less mad about it… that’s all…

agreed, i just wish it wasn’t ENTIRELY jecka torture…

Controversial opinion but I actually think that the flipside was pretty damn good

can i do it?

will you guys please let me do this? i promise i’ll do good, i can write an application just please let me re-write this shit…

There needs to be a rewrite of flipside just so we can all pretend it's the actual canon.

you got it, boss! i’ve already made a community post, & i’m gonna make a regular post now announcing it.

honestly, i was not expecting you to react so genuinely excited. i was expecting a ‘i’ll take anyone to do it, tbh’ or a ‘go ahead’ not an exuberant “YES!” so thanks, that’s def gonna motivate me for this!

There needs to be a rewrite of flipside just so we can all pretend it's the actual canon.

so we're all gonna pretend the flip side isn't canon right? right??

flipside would've been better if we had more shit like jecka seeing the hatman and less foot fetish and jecka getting trafficked

Just finished the flip side…it fucking sucks

Class of 09 The Flipside

I honestly didn’t like it that much, I liked Class of 09 but I felt like the Flipside prob had new writers because what the fuck? 😭 like I get that class of 09 is edgy and such, but at least in Nicole’s endings there were good endings but none of the endings with Jecka were good? It was so dark with no humor, like I like dark humor but it felt like watching a depressive ted talk or something. I don’t know how to explain it

@roverlord-233

we might have a secondary job

We should have a 4th Class of 09 game called

“Class of 09: You either kill yourself or get killed”

and the game ofc stars Emily, the real main character of class of 09

But instead of it being official it’s a fan game cause SBN3 is a piece of shit

Class of '09 the flip side was amazing oh my god! i love sad shit

JECKAA thati meabt to post yesterday to celebate the flipside(ft wipka)...but i didnt finish the coloured ver so i didtn.... BUT JECKA!!!ILY JECKA!!

In honor of the new class of 09 game coming out this hear, I drew jecka from the title screen! She was so fun to draw

Under the cut is the original picture and the drawing without the logo (if you wanna use it as a pfp please credit me!)

We flipped to the side with those fucking endings.

The foot fetish one was so fucking random, random foot fetish Nicole scene with Jecka's dad.

Jeffery dieing again which I couldn't care less about

Ari dieing for no point.

The only good ending was her finding out that Nicole is dead.

It felt like fan service being delivered over and over again.

TW: venting, possible the flip side spoilers

It’s been 6 hour since i watched the flip side gameplay and i still have that uncomfortable feeling in my gut. I shudder every time i remember the scenes from there. especially the foot fetish scenes... I was shocked, I've never felt so uncomfortable before.

And then I thought that I wanted to go back to the first two parts over and over again, to learn new interesting details, carefully reading the dialogues.

But things are completely different with the flip side. I hate even thinking about the flip side events, let alone reviewing them. I don’t fucking know how it was possible to make absolutely all the characters in the game disgusting but the flip side and SBN made it. But that's just a little part of what made me feel absolutely unpleasant.

Maybe that was the point. Maybe not. I still hate it with every fibre of my being and i'd rather ignore this part of the franchise as if it never existed and keep drawing what i like. But i think i'm still gonna need a little break to recover from the shock

Wasted endings man?

My whole months of waiting has been wasted. Thus not the best apology for grooming allegations fan service was horrible and so were does random ass endings

No Karen (she played an important part in her life)

Ari dieing?

Foot fetish endings (not needed)

Wasted ass game bro the fuck did I just watch...

This game never existed to the franchise okay. Let's play pretend 😒

This ending I hate this less than the foot fetish ending but this is the ending when she is trafficked by the Taliban.

God any other edgy as ending...

SNB did face serious grooming allegations to underage cosplayers he didn't say any.

It's not that we're sensitive and should have seen the titles. It's that it was disgusting. Just because they are 18 now doesn't mean you can draw them half-naked. Like rule 34 fan service is so kind.

The Jeffery ending just shows SNB's insecurities about him being a Gooner because SNB3 is Jeffery as a teen so he better not think he is the greatest because it shows the type of freak he is.

Wasted endings man?

My whole months of waiting has been wasted. Thus not the best apology for grooming allegations fan service was horrible and so were does random ass endings

No Karen (she played an important part in her life)

Ari dieing?

Foot fetish endings (not needed)

Wasted ass game bro the fuck did I just watch...

This game never existed to the franchise okay. Let's play pretend 😒

SNB trying to find a girlfriend in a sea of minors. Took this off reddit. This guys a freak.

Spews awareness that the creator is a creep!

SNB trying to find a girlfriend in a sea of minors. Took this off reddit. This guys a freak.