Aw Shit Im Crying Over Clone Wars Again. Another Aw Shit Because Im Creating Cw Ocs But Theyre Gonna

Aw shit I’m crying over clone wars again. Another aw shit because I’m creating cw ocs but they’re gonna end up dead 😎

//I have to say it even tho I love the meme- Phil has not adopted Ranboo as his son. He- on the request of Technos and loyalty of Ranboos actions came to get him. Techno said Ranboo a good "kid" and they (Phil and Techno). Talked a little about him and Techno felt "bad". Phil moral system is kinda hard to pin down. But he goes to get Ranboo because lets be honest no one gave a fuck enough to get him. He was homeless but even the "bad guy" came back for him.

// Philza and Wilbur are the only canon family. No if and or butts about it. Ghostbur is a sore spot for him that no one really asks about.

I think it really stuck out how Phil switch between too modes with Ghostbur.

When he screams about friend, Philza stand his ground he does not regret helping in destroying L'Manberg. But quickly tires to sooth him. Because he can't quite dissociate Alive Wilbur and Ghostbur. He openly admits that he has been looking into bring Wlibur back. But he doesn't go into detail and Techno does not push him.

When Ghostbur comes back (talking about the kill me again to bring me back.) He tires (the way Philza plays his character can be read in so many ways. This is my interpretation of it.) To distances himself vocally from Ghostbur. And becomes eerily quiet, at the talk of him having to kill Wilbur again. On a whim, on a chance that MAYBE it brings Wilbur back. A connection he still see ghostbur as his son- then Ghostbur talks about remaking L'Manberg and Phil disassociate again, he hards and flat out disconnects (from voice chat lol). Not My Son.

We talk about betrayal but Phil was never on a side. He was with L'Manberg at the start because it was something his son created. Not for his own personal gain the one to gain was Wilbur.

Heres a prefect example, Fundy and Niki of their own accord fuck over L'Manberg in its final moments. That is real betrayal, Phil who floats between who ever needs him allies with no one.

Expect on one motive to destroy L'Manberg after he has silently gone through his own trauma. It ruined his kid- and in a way, proved GLatt right. (Without him everything would be destroyed.)

Let me round back to just how broken up Phil feels about Wilbur. And how him killing him was not Phil fault. (To save some from my long ass post heres a summary.) There was not a single out for Wilbur after he destroyed L'Manberg. He beg for death because Wlibur could not live with the guilt and tinge of madness. To confront his friends after a sweeping victory that he single handedly ruined. No- even ghostbur says everyone hated Alivebur.

And its true- they won he couldn't just let it be. (Back to phil-)

No one notices, Phil doesn't hate the individual person. Its not that personal, its the government. And in a way he tells them it has corrupted them all. This isn't him trying to justify his actions. Its the truth. He held the blade that killed his son. And he watched as people torn each other apart over L'Manberg. Exiling people, the fight over who would rule, the literal public execution, the countless betrayals, the manipulation. Lets not forget the favorite green boy who stirrs the pot from the sidelines doesn't help neither.

We don't see Phil reaction after Wilburs death by his hands. He disappears. (besides some goofs and gafs but im talkin hard canon.)

When it came to sneaking into the Festival. Its like he's telling himself, more than he is to anyone else. "I wasn't invited so I'm not going." (It's like he's trying to convince himself.) But I think he knew no one was really invited. He is building a farm in the middle of the fucking artic for goodness sake. That is 100% busy work to keep his mind from spiraling. He didn't want to go and he just listen to what happen from Techno. He doesn't get involve social personal relationships like Techno. Techno build friendships and get betrayed.

Phil builds nothing because it never meant to becomes personal- until destroying L'Manberg is put on the table. Phil agrees but not for Techno cause- not for Dream, not really because of the government. Government only plays a small part and then it finally gets personal when he he brings up Wilbur.

Wilbur won hands down, they got the victory. They got L'Manberg back as Phil tries to reason with Wilbur who still clicks the button anyway. Other than that, he doesn't share the same hatred as Techno. No investment like Tommy, Tubbo and the rest. Phil sits in limbo, until someone ask something of him.

It was Wilbur his son and Techno his close friend. No one else. One he had to kill because of his own madness. The second he allied himself with for his own personal reason.

Cause I can guarantee, Techno, nor Dream, nor Tommy even thought about Wilbur during the end. But Phil sure did, he showed just a small glimpse of his true feelings.

You can really tell how much Carolina cared about her team in the beginning. Season 10 when Wash is getting chased by the car and she’s like “oh no you don’t” and I’m like :tears: cause she cared she really did.

Haha I am totally not matching the Montgomery Ricky with Clone Wars related stuff.  Pftttt- what I totally am not.

So like I’ve been thinking bout Fox a lot lately. And honestly, he’s a very hard character to like or dislike. Because his moral views and story telling are slightly flawed by the actual storyline that has been preset.

Realistically, we all knew that the Jedi never really found out about the chips before the order (this is canon verse idk if legends has something where they do). So knowing that, Fives was most likely going to die because he knew about the chips. So thus putting Fox in a position where he HAS to kill Fives. And it ain’t just a character choice, it’s a storyline choice.

So really it’s hard to judge his character since one of his major choices is preset. Of course this would apply for any character if they were in Fox’s position, but we as viewers don’t know if Fox was chosen for a specific reason or not.

Anyways I just wanted to share some brain ideas of mine. Personally I like Fox as a character. He sticks to his morals and everything as we have slightly seen from before.

Also

Philza Minecraft and Wilbur are the only ones in SBI that are canonically family and they are DEFINITELY an adult Father and Son.

It may be hard to really conceptualize a time in your life where the stuff that goes on between those two can happen.

But it does happen. Parents and children can be at odds with each other to the point of devastation, to the point where their actions and words go against everything the other believes in.

Phil entered the server and was immediately met with his severely mentally ill adult son about to destroy everything he cared about. Phil tried everything within his power to convince Wilbur not to press that button and Wilbur did it any way. Not to mention that after that Wilbur was suicidal, begging for his father to kill him on the spot, and Phil initially refused to do it before giving his son his last wish.

That moment is a character defining moment. Wilbur started the first government on the server and it broke him completely. Phil 100% blames the existence of that nation for breaking his son and, even if indirectly, causing his death.

Ghostbur is a completely different person than Wilbur, the same memories but in no way the same. With those events in mind the very very careful way Phil deals with Ghostbur makes sense, the man is sympathetic but distant. He is 10,000% still mourning and Ghostbur is a stranger.

The actions that L'Manburg took with Phil are even more harmful when taking these things into account. They were already living in the shadow of Wilbur's death but then they place Phil under house arrest with the intent to blackmail Phil's best friend and then execute Technoblade right in front of Philza's house.

L'Manburg already took one person he loved away from him, no way was Phil going to let it happen for a 3rd time.

So when Phil and Techno destroyed L'Manburg and Ghostbur's everything was unrecoverable, yeah it's sad. It's sad to see Ghostbur lose everything when he didn't take any action against them intentionally. But the destruction wasn't about that. It was revenge, and justice, and a message, and an attempt to stop anything else from happening like it did again. Ghostbur's tragedy was a very very unfortunate side effect. Which it shouldn't have to be. I don't think anyone is arguing the opposite, but to Phil, the man known as the Angel of Death, the man who will desperately protect what he has left, it's an acceptable loss.

Both Ghostbur and Philza are in the right here and they can't really say sorry or try to make things better because they are an adult father son duo with different perspectives and reasonings that make them both correct.

So miss me with the Phil is a bad dad BS, Wilbur is a grown up dead man and parents/kids can be on opposing sides in conflict and often are. This isn't a matter of their relationship, it's a matter of conflict and war and how every action has a consequence.

Thank you for coming to my tedtalk.