Liam Payne
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Liam in the interview for Sugarscape: “…when I first started producing a little bit and stuff, track beats were the first thing I ever really made because they’re quite easy and come together quite nicely. The first time I did it I was in this hotel in Argentina and I was there from like, midnight to eight in the morning and I didn’t realise my A&R was sleeping there, I thought we had the whole room to ourselves. So I was just doing this massive, really nasty rap song for hours thinking he’d be so pissed off if he knew, but he was actually like, “I heard what you did last night, it was really good actually,” and I was like, “Wow, ok.”
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Liam in the radio interview about Zayn: “I’m dead excited to hear some of his stuff,” Payne said. “I did a lot of work with him in the studio when he was in the band. We used to stay up late and do rap stuff, which is quite interesting - because I like to produce rap beats and stuff.”
Any guesses who the we who were making the nasty rap songs in the middle of the night were…? :P
The first and third answers are related and you cant tell me otherwise
I wanna know what the hell Larries want from Ziammies, like, the fuck, leave me alone. You had your babygate and Of CoUrSe Freddie isn't Louis' son but if we say that Gigi's daughter is not Zayn's we are fucked up? Like, for real? Only Larry is ok? And I'm the first one who believes that Larry are in a committed relationship, but Ziam is not beacuse you think so? Do you even listen to what you say?
If you don’t think ZIAM is real how do you explain the story of ziam
tbh it's not how touchy-feely zayn and liam are with each other that got me into believing they were real (all the boys are EXTREMELY affectionate with one another). For me it was small instances and moments that weren't meant for cameras and mics but accidentally got out anyway, like for me, it was at the NJR awards in 2013 where zayn was leaning into liam so much you'd have to blind (or straight) not to interpret that as romantic/non-platonic
I actually agree with you on that one. The boys are all extremely affectionate with each other for sure, but I would argue that how Ziam are with other is different from the other boys [X X]. But I would definitely agree that the most undeniable moments are the ones not meant for cameras and mics that accidentally got out anyway, or the ones where Zayn and Liam seemed to not give a fuck or just happened to forget where they were.
Like, as you mention, the 2013 NRJ Awards. I totally get what you mean, anon. You really would have to be totally oblivious (or heteroblivious… bless the straights’ hearts) to interpret this as platonic. Husband levels reaching critical mass…
Zayn was leaning right into Liam. Right casually resting on him. In this video you can see him doing it (he even acknowledges the camera for a second).
This was also the time when Zayn told Liam “I love you” in front of a live studio audience. Excuse me while the flesh melts off my bones.
Intimate gestures at award shows are not unheard of, like when Zayn whispered into Liam’s ear as he rubbed his thigh at the 2013 VMAs, which the overhead camera caught when 1D won an award:
There are little hand holds and finger touches, like in this moment where they were taking a photo:
They even sneak these touchy-feely behaviors in the middle of taped interviews, possibly because they expect them to simply not be focued on or edited out, or because the editors simply missed the moment, or some combination of the two. Like the MUZU.TV interview, which is 13 minutes of pure pain:
Really? They look like freshmen college students trying to sneak touches in the middle of a seminar. Maybe they just could not help themselves, or most of these little touches and lean-ins were subconscious. Maybe they expected these moments not to make the final cut and they did anyway.
That’s the thing though: some of these intimate gestures happen in public, in situations where Zayn and Liam probably do not expect to be recorded and/or just deadass do not care—and it is their ordinariness that gives them away. Like all the times that Zayn has held Liam by the waist or the small of his back:
As they say and I always make it a point to reiterate, queerness is an open secret. It can be happening right before our very eyes and as long as there is enough plausible deniability and heteronormative conditioning [X X X X X], trust, know and believe that people will and do go through the mental loops and machinery to explain away the gay.
Because again, some of these unambiguously not platonic and very casual moments made the final cut, and I cannot help but think that Zayn and Liam were so casual about them because they simply figured that they would never make it past the editing and “fixing”—but due to shoddy editing, they did anyway. Like the infamous lap sitting moment from 1D Day:
Which again, happened multiple times, in public. Like it was no big deal. I get the feeling these moments somehow slipped past the publicity machine and reached us:
We know that the boys are all cognizant of their own behavior in public, because they occasionally break form and make some indication of it. For example, when Liam leans into Zayn after Zayn picks him up off the floor and presses his lips into Zayn’s arm, only to stop after he looks off camera where a handler is—as if he realizes that he is doing something that he “should not be,” and that he could get in trouble for it. (In the video the handler’s voice is heard at one point and the boys respond to them by looking their direction.)
And we know that they can get in trouble for being “too touchy” in public, like when an off camera handler seems to gesture to Liam to stop leaning into Zayn, which makes Liam do so, but not without loudly sighing exasperatedly while looking rather sour:
Some of these very non-platonic moments happen in the middle of concerts, where literally thousands of people with recording devices are watching. As if they are subconscious, or they think they can get away with it and that no one will notice, or they are already covered by heteronormative biases and straight-is-the-norm goggles [X X X X] and the well-wrought machine of closeting and publicity [X X X X X | X X X] that encourage people to explain these moments away:
What makes these moments particularly intimate is that they are not just gentle face touches, but that in the first moment Liam is clearly down (a relative of his had died the night of that concert) and in the second Zayn is obviously annoyed with Liam.
More small gestures of intimacy, like Liam and Zayn’s “fist bump”:
Or gentle caresses of the neck, or more fiddling around with their fingers:
Remember when Liam fell on stage and Zayn rushed to his side? And rubbed his inner thigh? Totally not an invasion of your platonic bro pal’s personal space.
The small instances and moments are perhaps the sweetest. Ah, the little things. [Zayn and Liam’s duet in “Little Things“ plays]
Look at Zayn laughing and liking when the DJ said “he’s lived the movie”. Though I can totally understand his reaction over that. I mean–
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You can't tell me that Safaa doesn't know what she's doing.
She completely ignores that her brother will have a baby girl soon, but then she congratulates a couple? Who btw isn't Z*g*? This girl doesn't want to have anything to do with the pregnancy stunt.
Hii, do you have a tag or master post about Ziam tattoos? I'm starting looking into them and I was wondering is they have some related to each other? thanks
Hi! I don’t have a post, although I’m positive someone has made one. I do know:
Liam has been linked to wolves in the past and Zayn’s wolf tattoo is believed to be for Liam, people believe he wore shorts right after he got it so that he could show it off
Liam has a feather on his arm for his grandmother and Zayn has wings on his chest, but a feather is believed to be missing on one side and that’s believed to be a space for Liam’s feather
Zayn’s wolf also has a feather and Liam got feathers all along his right forearm as well, so feathers seem to be a common motif with those 2 specifically
There’s some speculation that Zayn’s snake tattoo is for Liam since it was gotten in October 2013 around when the famous snake habitat incident happened
it was made to look like Zayn’s girl tattoo was for Perrie, but that was after the fact, and there are a lot of signs that it could be a female version of Liam
Liam has “I figured it out” from You & I, he’s stated it’s one of his favorite songs from MM, and Ziam have a strong habit of singing to each other during You & I
Zayn’s mandala tattoo is similar to temporary henna tattoos the bride has at Pakistani weddings where the groom’s name is hidden within, Zayn’s tattoo has one irregular spot and the initials L and P seem to be there
this last year, both Zayn and Liam suddenly got a lot of work done on their hands and on one specific arm for each- right for Liam, left for Zayn. They also showed these off in matching Instagram pictures and Liam continues to show his arm off at every chance
Zayn’s checkered finish line flag tattoo was gotten at least a week (possibly around two weeks since we didn’t confirm the hand tattoo until the flag one was also seen) before the Zerrie break up announcement which claimed they’d broken up 2 weeks ago
It now seems that Zayn may have gotten the cover for Liam’s first solo release tattooed ahead of time
Zayn’s lotus tattoo was gotten right after the Zerrie break up was announced and lotus flowers have the meaning of rebirth
Liam’s eagle tattoo with a rising sun can have the meaning of freedom and new beginnings (like the lotus tattoo)
both Liam and Zayn seem to have a sun rays theme in the background around their new arm tattoos
Liam’s banner on his hand is unfilled unlike the similar one above, indicating there’s something he intends to put there eventually, maybe something he’s not allowed to right now
Liam’s “we are the quiet ones” is thought to refer to him and Zayn as they’ve identified themselves as the quiet ones in the past
Liam got his X Factor number tattooed in roman numerals last year, Zayn is the only other one with his X Factor number tattooed, his is scattered around his arm in separate numbers
Liam also got a skull tattooed on his arm, Zayn has 3 skulls, 1 similarly realistic one on the same arm
Liam’s new rose tattoo on his hand has 3 roses which have an unambiguous message of “I Love You” according to flower meaning sites, Ziam have a history with “I Love You” from saying it onstage to Liam commenting on how ILYSM could stand for “I Like Your Skirt Mary” and Zayn wearing a hat that says ILU
Liam’s roses tattoo and Zayn’s mandala extension seem like they may go together and cover the same area on the left hand for each of them
Liam has a 4 on his ring finger which is similar to the IV tattoos that the well known industry power couple Beyonce and Jay Z have, given the rings he and Zayn have been seen wearing during the last year…
Zayn’s tattoo for Mind of Mine seems to have a weirdly shaped “e”, making it look like an “a” beside the nearby “i” and “m” and the tiger’s tail that looks like an “L”. It’s speculated this could be spelling “Liam”
That’s what I can think of off the top of my head with a little research thrown in. You can view all the tattoos I’m talking about here.
Remember when Liam said that "4" tattoo on his (wedding) finger is an angel number and when he wears the ring that it looks like a halo and yet he never wears the rings on that finger on public?
Zayn posted the poem about "love and marriage" a year ago and tattooed this on his left hand (where his mandala tattoo)
Check this post please, so many connections between Zayn and Liam's tattoos, nose ring, 🌹 and very interesting and important information 👇
Remember when Liam nearly said that he is already married?
Yeah, they're married.
Inexplainable Ziam Moments
Got to be this one where liam puts his lips on zayn’s arm so casually like... come on
Reblog and add your inexplainable ziam moment :')
Ok but let's talk about this freaking babygate 3.0.
THE PLANNING
Let's start by saying that this was well planned, and for sure the news didn't got leak as an accident. It's well planned for 2 main reasons:
1. The most obvious one, the news got leaked in the same week as the appearance on Fallon, and after a day ^that the news got leaked^ they also said the sex of the baby like, for real?
2. Look at her bday party, if she didn't want to let everybody know she have could. But she WANTED so I'm not surprised about the brooch or all that PINK.
And also, I don't know if she's really pregnant or no, but for sure it isn't Zayn's daughter.
REASONS SHE'S NOT PREGNANT
But here comes why people think she isn't pregnant:
1. She has been horse riding that is actually not recommended for pregnant women
2. People say that she has a small bump, but about that I have to say something. For people in the beauty industry is pretty normal to try to have a small bump because they have to keep their image and make it easier to lose the weight gotten with the pregnancy. In Italy we had a similar case with Chiara Ferragni.
This is Chiara 6 months pregnant, but she isn't a model, she just works in the beauty industry. So I don't know, it could be or not. But, in my honest opinion, Gigi doesn't look pregnant at all, just look at the birthday photo where you can see how she's dressed, not even a small bump. I don't know, complicated. I also wanted to say that in her last post she didn't include her belly in the photo so we can't actually see if there's a bump or not.
3. She went grocery shopping during the lockdown (I can't find the source sorry). That's what makes me say that maybe she is unconscious of what she does, because during a global pandemic the last thing a pregnant woman should do is going out of your home.
4. She has been drinking lots of coffee, that is actually not recommended during pregnancy.
5. ZAYN IS NOT WITH HER. He just isn't, I don't care if you believe in Ziam, Zarry, Zigi or whatever the fuck, he is not with her. We haven't got a single photo of them two together, the ones during her birthday were fake, not even on Jimmy Fallon he appeared. I mean, she's talking about the pregnancy and you are so happy and shit but you still don't say anything and don't even make an appearance just so people can say "at least he is with her during this hard moment". If he is as overwhelmed as she says, why he isn't with you? C'mon, nobody is believing this shit anymore. Zayn is in London, stop it.
For sure Zayn doesn't give a damn.
THE SHADING
Some hours before the news got leaked, The Weeknd posted this on his Instagram story
I don't know how he knew and I don't think it's just a coincidence.
The same day after the news blow up
And a pair of days after
So actually nobody, not even Maliks, liked that.
WHAT ABOUT ZAYN
What I personally think is that Zayn doesn't want anything to do with that. Nobody has ever said that he is the future dad, Gigi used the "we", Yolanda the "they", nobody ever pronounced Zayn's name. So I think Zayn is actually trying to get out of this uncomfortable situation, and if she is really pregnant then it will come out that she isn't Zayn's daughter but someone elses and they are going to not make it look like Gigi cheated on him. I think that they also didn't mention him so it can be easier to say that this isn't Zayn's children, because they never told that clearly. They confirmed the pregnancy, but never confirmed the baby was Zayn's.
JIMMY FALLON
Let me tell you something: she looks more excited talking about the cake than the baby. Like, look how excited she is. I also wanted to point out that when Jimmy says "Zayn" Gigi didn't say anything.
THE MISCARRIAGE THEORY
So, a lot of people has been bringing out the theory of faking a miscarriage.
Of course, if she really is pregnant, I wish her the best, literally. But if she isn't and she fakes a miscarriyng she is gonna lose the dignity she had. I'm not against abortion, but women that want a baby and then they lose it aren't happy at all. It's a very sad moment of everybody's life and the woman feels bad with herself. And if she really fakes it, than she'll be looking like she is joking about losing a baby accidentally. And, of course I repeat, if she really is pregnant I wish her the best, for real.
DUA LIPA
Recently Dua Lipa, a singer but also Gigi's brother's girlfriend, released her album. Before this happened it got leaked and Dua was really sad about it, she cried during a live. Everybody felt so sad for her of course. But now that her album came out, she is doing some interviews.
I mean, make up your own opinions. She was there to talk about her album and they started off with the pregnancy. Obviously I'm not blaming Gigi for this, but you can actually hear how Dua is pissed off. And she says that she didn't know that from a long time. Also in this interview too, when the interviewer says "Zayn" Dua didn't say anything.
I think that's all. If I forgot something or I made a mistake please let me know, I'd love that.
Also tell me what you think about this and your theory. Obviously, I'm still a Ziam, duh.
Have a nice day/night,
Giorgia xx
A guide to Ziam:
Hi guys,
I’ve decided to create a post outlining the basics of the Ziam ship. This post will incorporate all the stages of Ziam, from their experiences before meeting each other to where they stand now. People need to understand that most relationships don’t happen over night, Zayn and Liam are more than just “fuck buddies” nor are they obvlious of the other’s feelings (anymore that is).
There are a few things I wish to outline before I begin an informative timeline
Ziam is not the same as Larry, though they share commonalities in their relationships they are completely different. Please do not compare any of the couples in a negetive way.
If you don’t believe in Ziam by the end of this post, please just respect the ship and leave my blog. Hate shouldn’t be tolerated in this fandom, it will only trigger ship wars.
Ziam did develop slowly so this is quite a long post but it will summarize pretty much all I know about Ziam.
I must stress, Ziam is not a bromance. However, if you’re a twitter fan please keep your distance from Zayn and Liam when discussing the ship. Management keep track on Liam and Louis’ twitters and occasionally tweet on Zayn and Niall’s accounts.
And the most important thing, if you decide to board the ship, we are a family. Ziam shipper stick together and although we may have ups and downs families stay strong.
Continua a leggere
Why do you think zigi is being called out as fake? I don't recall any other beard/pr relationship being called fake.
I’m not really sure to be honest. I think other couples have been just as fake, obnoxious, and tacky, so I don’t know why Zigi is getting targeted.
paynegerouslyinlove thinks Zigi has always been about Gigi and Zayn’s had the disadvantage, which is probably true. However, the way things are going, I’d rather have the focus on her than him.
I'm making this because I want to say that my main goal is not making you see that I'm right, it is sharing with you my opinions and wanting to know yours. So if now I'm going to talk about, I don't know, burgers, I want you to have your own opinion about burgers and not just take everything I say as right. I want you to think with your own head and not with mine.
I'm telling you this because everything I say on my posts is my point of view, and I always let you know the source of my photos or whatever so you can make up your own thoughts.
Anyways, I'll start talking about the babygate because I'm tired of this bullshit. I'll let you know the different points of view and my own.
I don't know if today or tomorrow, but one of those days the post will be up.
Love u all
Giorgia xx
Omg Zayn is so cute because he's surprised but so happy at the same time because Liam is actually right because they are married and I love them so much and please I need to breath
anyways #throwback
You asked for it and I thought this was such a good idea, so now I'll talk about Yolanda, Gg's mum.
Let's start by saying that she and Mohammed, Gg's dad, aren't in a relationship because they divorced in 2000.
Anyways, Gigi and Mohammed seem to be in a happy and sincere relationship, because he is so proud of her and often post picture of her. Like, just go on his account and you will find A LOT of pictures of her. Just some examples -please give a look at the dates to understand what I mean by saying A LOT-.
You can't tell me they have a bad relationship.
BUT he doesn't know she is pregnant?
It's not that she is 1 month pregnant, but 5. In 5 months you didn't tell your father about that? And what did he say about that? That he was sleeping?
Look at how magazines fuck up everything as they want. Like, for real? Wtf
But, what happened after this live? I mean, we are fucked, he didn't know about that (maybe because he is so proud of his little girl and wouldn't them to that) but we need people to believe this.
That's what she did.
Your little secret got leaked and you are so calm? I mean, it's supposed to be someone close to the family, if not someone OF the family.
And you are that calm?
THAT CALM?
But let's remember that Yolanda once said that a "pregnancy news" would be confirmed only by her daughters (I can't find the interview online, does somebody have that? Tysm) Why this time not? Maybe she needed to confirm everything so quickly after what Mohamed said during the live? In Italy they say, "who does for himself, does for three people", meaning that who does it himself does it better. I think that's the case.
Last hour a news went up, and I'm so tired about this situation that just started
Credits to @/zigi_isfake on Instagram
I think this doesn't need any explanation.
I don't like all this, and I still don't like the fact that Gigi didn't say anything about that, probably she will confirm it herself tonight on Fellon. And if she doesn't, she will have a lot of people going against her because then it will be SO obvious that she is doing this just to catch more attention.
Last but not least, I just wanna say that it's so disgusting how she is using her "pregnancy" to promote her shit. Reminds me the babygate 1.0, doesn't it?
Oh and yet, nobody said this is Zayn's baby. Yolanda confirmed the rumour, never said this is Zayn's baby. Neither did Taylor.
I think this is all I had to say, if I said something wrong or miss something let me notice, I'd love that!
Have a good day/night,
Giorgia xx
You should really do a post about Yo***da. I just saw that she isn't married to Mohammad and it justifies a lot his funny reaction to the pregnancy announcement.
Well, that's actually a very good idea! I knew that she wasn't married with Gg's dad, maybe I'll do that in a pair of hours. Thank u so much for the idea! Have a good day!
Yet I'm still waiting for Zayn to confirm the baby is his. I couldn't care less about what Yolanda says, this woman is SO fucked up. Let's also talk about the fact that even G*gi's dad didn't know anything about the pregnancy. Gosh, I really hate it here.
Why do you think this isn't Zayn in the video that G*gi posts?
Hey! I'm gonna list all the reasons and see if I can get any pictures and I'll try to explain you my point of view.
*videos and photos below don't belong to me but to the owner*
This is the video I'm talking about for those who don't know.
Just look at the video itself. It flinches so much, look at the fences.
Look at who-is-supposed-to-be-Zayn's face. I think we can all agree that it isn't him, just look simply at his eyes. Zayn has a particular type of eye. This looks just like a regular pair of eyes.
This is how his face appears with the computer effect.
Apart from the face, look at his neck, where are his tattoos? And look at what he has on the chest, seems like somebody really tried his best to put some-kind-of-chest-tattoo-related-to-Zayn.
Also, where are his hands tattoos? There's not even one.
Look how Zayn's shoulder enters both G*gi and B*lla's armpits. Like wtf.
And last, but I still don't know why, look at his legs. They have some kind of white border and I can't find an answer to that.
Not only Ziam or Zarry or whatever is pissed off by this video, also a lot of Zigi. Think about it and tell me your opinion!
All the love,
Giorgia xx
What fake video do you refer on your latest post?
Hey! I was talking about Z*gi video that she posted oh her insta account during her birthday! If you give it a look you will find it and all the people (Ziam or not) are so pissed off because it isn't Zayn. Give it a look and tell me if you want any references. Have a good day!
Just wanted to point out that after this supposed babygate nobody is talking anymore about the fake video. This isn't a coincidence. I feel like they did that on purpose, then they are going to deny the pregnancy (I'm not sure if today on Fellon or in a few days) and nobody will ever again talk about the fake video. Let's hope for the best.
Have a good day,
Giorgia xx
29.04.20: G*gi's mother confirmed the birth, I guess I was wrong. I don't know how this will go on. We'll see.
Seems like some people forgot that Zigi's "love story" started like a week after her "love story" with Joe Jonas ended.
Like remember how many times they were papped around her apartments? Don't you dare to say that it's not celebrities buying paps for a promo. It's 2020, for a fucking sake, stop being that blind and stupid.
Remember that it's always Zayn's fault after their breakup? Zayn's "issues", Zayn's "toxic behaviour", Zayn's "problematic behaviour"?
It's so sad that people calling this "love" when it's nothing but promo for Gigi since 2016. For her and for her shit family.
Zayn deserves so much better. And i hate that people believes that he is with someone like her.
FREE ZAYN.
I won't talk about Zigi's child until one of them conferms the rumour. Nobody said anything and everybody is like "OmG iS gOiNg To BE a MaStErPi3ce". After they will conferm or deny it -that I think is going to happen in a few days- I'm going to say what I think about them, I already have a theory. Have a good day/night.
All the love,
Giorgia.
You should watch Liam's new video on YouTube to know what I'm talking about, but you can do whatever you want so...
Okay but let's be serious.
I loved Liam's video and I kinda lost my breath when he said "Ziam" but I'm not here for this. I'm here to talk about a second that really made my head go
This one (minute 11.29)
Listen very closely.
After he says "I find it funny too, I understand it" there's a cut and he is laid on his chair. Right at that moment you can hear a voice. Listen carefully to this voice. Because it has a pretty heavy accent. And I don't wanna say bullshits, but this sounds like Zayn. Tell me if I'm wrong.
I mean, I feel like he did that on purpose, because he could've just cut that part and just start with "I hope you enjoyed this" without that pause.
And I wanna think he did this because of all that Zigi drama (and yes, I don't think it is Zayn and maybe if you want I can make a post about that), but I actually could be wrong.
What do you think about that?
Maybe he didn't even edit the video himself, maybe it was just a mistake, maybe he wanted it to be that way. A lot of maybe, we're never going to know the truth.
Well, hope you are doing great and staying safe, trying to enjoy the quarantine. I'm in that phase when I'm always hungry but I hope I'm going into the fitness phase.
We'll see.
All the love,
Giorgia.
