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i beginning to see why people confused the two in sa2...
Elon Musk IS Lex Luthor. Especially the Young Justice version of Lex
Has the Generations Black Doom VA been announced yet?
Knuckles would like this
I'm on chapter 10 of Sonic Chronicles and only just found out I've locked Omega out of the game. Chat do I restart everything to get him or do I get the bad ending where Shadow has no friends
Breaking News:
Local Shadow the Hedgehog fan enjoys Shadow's characterization pre-2010s. Never before seen feat
resting after a long battle
Okay but why didnt anyone tell me Sonic Chronicles was a genuine banger? Good Shadow characterization? Options to be rude Sonic? Team Dark Combos? Guys this is a 10/10 game we're sleeping on. Shame the lawsuit happened because I would love to see more like this.
But seriously are we not gonna talk about how Shadow's only motivation for most of the game was finding Omega? The fate of the world is at stake and Shadow is rushing to find his friend. The world can wait. Sega let them be friends.
Only crime is that I haven't seen Rouge and Shadow chat but to be fair, almost all of the dialogue revolves around Sonic because it's his game (and kinda Knuckles')
I had a vision
Way to break my heart with that (I love it so much it hurts)
I always kinda thought Chip looked a little like a chao... then this comic happened! (Not a reincarnation situation or anything, just a chao that looks like Chip in the same way that some chao can look like Sonic, Knuckles, Amy etc.)
Probably brings back some memories for Sonic!
This too shall pass but like holy fuck
my dumb? founded. my flabbers? gasted. my gob??? smacked
Omg he looks so cool
doodle
I miss Kaldur's season 1 characterization.
we should all get to vote for the us president ngl
This looks sick as hell
I painted some pictures of Final Fantasy 7.
People should start writing fanfiction about the things I wanna see so that I never have to learn how to write
I should be writing and definitely need to be asleep right now but I just saw a comment and realized, "I haven't bitched about this yet," so let's go. Spoilers under the cut btw. And again, same thing. You disagree with my opinion, talk about it somewhere else.
The popular excuse I'm seeing people use right now to explain Li Jing's portrayal in season 5 is, "It's a children's show, obviously they can't show him being a bitch."
And I think it's laughable at best because if Lego Monkie Kid was "just a children's show", they most certainly wouldn't have such insane world building and lore at this point. I'm certain half of the fanbase are adults, myself included, that have stuck around this "children's show" because the lore is better than even most shonen anime nowadays.
I can see why the excuse makes sense. Nezha's story in the original was if I'm not mistaken about filial piety and just obedience and all that, but well.
It's also stupid, if you recall the fact DBK (under the influence of Lady Bone Demon) was absolutely nasty to Red Son in season 1 episode 10. (PSA on this; I recall a comment on a Red Son fic I wrote on AO3 where someone said the English version made Red's parents a lot harsher than in the Mandarin dub too, so there's that). There's also Spider Queen's death + the other spiders in season 2 as well and how they went out gives you horror movie vibes definitely not suited for children. Then there is season 4 and the ink demons vs MK, bringing back good old fashion trauma. There is also, within s5, a lot of elements you wouldn't see normally in a children's show like PTSD (I think), and yadda yadda.
And you can tell me the points I've brought up are absolutely fine for a children's show because they're not THAT bad, but.
The point I'm trying to make is. Li Jing's character is absolute dogshit.
Before anyone complains, no. I am not saying I hate Li Jing because of the treatment he gave Wukong, because by that logic I should hate Tripitaka too, but I don't, because from a writer's perspective, of COURSE they're going to put a circlet on the guy that literally beat up Heaven. Wouldn't you put a collar and leash on a dog that constantly bites??
Making Li Jing act as this tough, loving dad persona makes me incredibly annoyed because it just doesn't make sense, at all. His entire presence in the show made no sense. He provided very little to the plot aside from helping and-slash-or taking over Nezha's position if I'm not mistaken in keeping the Jade Emperor's power safe. And aside from suddenly helping the team fight Xianglu, that was about it. Li Jing and Nezha together had very little relevance to the plot, and that alone is disappointing.
But, I'm getting off topic. I'm a fanfiction writer but even I could've thought of subtle ways to hint to the audience that Li Jing is an awful FATHER without actually showing abuse going down. There were so many ways to show Li Jing being an absolute asshole not counting doing his duty- subtle ways like belittling/berating Nezha whenever they're on screen, refusing to listen him even coming down to episode 8 to 10 because Nezha had shitty judgement in the past, he's done enough, blah blah.
"But he DID do that-" No, he didn't. Li Jing was doing his JOB in the show. And even then, I'm still trying to process WHY he was chosen, and not someone who has more relations with Sun Wukong AND Nezha, like, I dunno, Erlang Shen perhaps??
Genuinely, I don't understand people trying to defend the writer's sorry excuse at their portrayal of Li Jing. I don't understand how anyone can actually sit behind their screens and admit they like whatever this thing is.
And see. I think I could've worked with Li Jing being this tough loving dad if Nezha had a different personality in the show. Li Jing unable to express his feelings but attempting to be a good father would've worked if Nezha wasn't a stressed, on edge grown ass man that has a short temper.
"B-but- he's so stressed with all the duties he has-" be so fucking for real, that's a stupid ass excuse. Nezha's portrayal personality wise in LMK is the sole reason why I've always wanted to see Li Jing in s5, because it made sense. It would've made sense Li Jing put so much pressure on Nezha-; not because he's trying to be a good dad or doing his job, but because Nezha has two older siblings that had never brought him shame like Nezha had. Nezha wouldn't even BE Li Jing's favorite at this point. Wouldn't it have been so much better to add Nezha's brothers as well, to show the favoritism? And even then, if the show didn't want to add them, why couldn't they have, again, SUBTLY HINTED AT IT??????
LMK Li Jing feels like the writers saw the Nezha 2019 movie, and decided that they wanted to try copying that Li Jing to make it work in the series, and it ultimately fucking failed.
I'm not even gonna complain about the characters that could've made this season better, nor would I bring up characters I'd like to see, because LMK writers have a bias. I thought of it for a long time and now, it's confirmed my suspicions. They just pick any random characters from JTTW or whatever and sometimes, like in the case of Lady Bone Demon, it works!! This time, like Li Jing, it didn't, and it's pathetically sad at this point.
I may have gone wildly off-topic here (yikes), but I genuinely stick to what I said. Li Jing's character is absolute dogshit. I absolutely hate how he's portrayed, I despise it with every fiber of my being. To the rest of you dick-riders fighting for excuses about why he deserves to be written like this, I wish I had a simpleminded brain as you. Genuinely, I wish I could look at LMK Li Jing and think, "God yeah, this guy is so well written-" I wish. I so, so wish I could be like you.
But I can't and I'm glad that I won't be. I don't want to hear the nonsense excuse of LMK being a children's show because can we even call it that when the show's popularity is insane with adults specifically?? Can we even call it a children's show when the lore is better than so many other pieces of media??
Again. I'm not bitching about Li Jing because of his treatment to Wukong. If any other character had done it, it's the same reaction as a huge Wukong fan; I don't care. I love Wukong, but if I had a dangerous dog known for biting strangers, I WILL put a collar and muzzle on him. I'm bitching about Li Jing because dickriding fans think using the excuse of the show being aimed for children is plausible for his pathetic character.
Any comments I see whining about how I'm wrong, your ass is getting deleted and blocked. I don't care about what you have to say at this point. You people in this fandom genuinely sicken me as is. I've already come to terms that the only people in this fandom are me, myself, and I.
Lmk season 5 spoilers:
I need to talk about Nezha and Li Jing right fucking now
As much as I didn't like how the show wrote Li Jing, specifically the part where he pulled a complete 180 on his entire characterization for the sake of rushing the one plot I was most excited about, I really like the way Nezha was characterized (as long as we pretend Li Jing's the tyrannical asshole he was in mythology and was introduced to be in the season). Nezha's guilty that Li Jing hurt Wukong and Macaque, and he agreed with MK that his motives were suspicious, but as always, he places his duty before his feelings, connections, and physical needs. But he draws the line when Li Jing starts trying to hurt the kids. He stops him, no hesitation, and at the end of the season he even snaps at him, using Li Jing's own controlling rhetoric against him.
They could've used this in the season, that Nezha without hesitation will violate his orders to protect the kids. This is good characterization, considering the fact he was basically a soldier as a child, himself, and he had nobody to protect him. Even in the special at the end of season 3, when Nezha barely knows MK, he's still leaping to protect him from the mind-controlled Wukong.
Nezha tends to be treated as a warrior or a soldier by his peers, when in reality, he's a guardian. A protector. And this duty will take priority even over the fear he has for his father. He's been conditioned to believe the celestials and their leaders are above all, but his protective nature breaks this programming instantly.
Season 5 would've been better if Li Jing hadn't stopped to listen, because we would've seen this characterization front and center. We could've gotten Nezha fighting his dad (who Wukong commented was "a little stronger than Nezh-ie") and it would've been such a powerful moment, for all of the characters, too. This destiny stuff is assigned by the Heavens, and Nezha fighting against them on MK's side will show that MK should be against these pompous fuckers.
Li Jing could've been a major villain. We can have the Nine-Headed Demon as a major villain, too. Extremists on both sides, and it's up to MK to find that balance between order and chaos. MK represents the concepts of choice and will in this conflict. Willpower is a great mixture between chaos and order, because it defies the control others give and it fights the chaos trying to shatter it.
Back to the topic of Nezha and Li Jing, we could get Nezha becoming part of the group, and he and Pigsy could have a cool dynamic because Pigsy doesn't trust the gods, and he's a very unconventional father in comparison to King Li Jing. They'll disagree, question things, and idk maybe Nezha becomes like a big brother to MK, just wishful thinking there. Either way, Nezha and Pigsy would not get along (at least at first) and it would be really funny and interesting.
All I'm saying is that Nezha has the potential for dynamics with everyone. He and Wukong could also reference the fact that Au Guang (the Great Grand Dragon of the East, he was in season 3) kinda hates both of them. Idk, again, just some fanfic-y things. Maybe the show wouldn't write these things, maybe it would just stay plot-relevant, either way, there's lots of character dynamics to explore