Octavian!

Octavian!

Do I know what I am going to write in this? Vaguely. More headcanons because I want to take a break from that rendering of Octavian because I want to work and make something better than putting effort into something I won’t be proud of or whatever.

Also I just want to keep talking about him but whatever,

Octavian never been outside of Camp Jupiter/New Rome is canon in my mind. There have been very few times he has been outside the little bubble, which were,

The Wolf House: where he really just stayed close to the house (obvi. Course I’d love to talk more about the exacts but since we get no information about the wolf house though it’d be a pretty good way to start SoN and then seamlessly blend us into a timeskip of the Gorgon chase but whatever- we are given no information about the wolf house either and aaaaa-) but the Wolf House Octavian mentality was survive through with his wits and try to survive enough to run out of there as soon as possible when he has the training done.

His quest: we get no information on it, but we know that he had to do a quest to become a Centurion (Can confirm this is a rule, check the Senate scene near the beginning, I believe it was Larry the legionnaire that yelled it) though we also, sadly, get no indication what this question was. But I’d like to introduce the idea that it was a duo quest with Michael and Octavian and they became Centurions together (I’ll probably re-read this and then add more on later) but I’d assume this Question also has them steeped pretty deep into the mythological side of the world and they didn’t get much down time. But what little of the mortal world Octavian saw he thought was pretty cool- though he still thinks New Rome looks better. (Because if anyone walks up to me and says the current era of architecture we’re in is better than anything that predates the freaking 1950’s is lying to me and trying to make me buy a house. We have fallen as a society when we started thinking ultra minimalist boring homes that are devoid of any depth or visual interest was the best route to go for our buildings. But that’s another rant from me for another day-)

Siege of Mt.Tam: they had to travel the smallest bit for this but again, didn’t interact with the mortal world much, they all stayed pretty self contained to the temporary camp and the mountain itself.

The cross country trip to go attack the Greeks: this is the one we’re shown in canon or whatever. But this was probably the most chaotic of the times that Octavian had been out of Camp. It was a lot to deal with, really overwhelming to be stuck with everyone with no where to move or anything. But this would be the most he would really interact with stuff like fast food chains, gas stations, all the stuff. And New York, that was a thing that happened. I believe they briefly passed through New York (we know that at some point they’re inside of New York from the Rachel scene if I remember properly) and that meant Hotels, it was similar enough to the barracks that it was fine. Though I think that the whiplash from New Rome to this made Octavian a lot more hesitant about stuff like these cities. He likes modern culture to some extent (insert another Build-a-bear joke. And if anyone asks, I believe he totally gets them delivered to calcedott tunnel instead of going out to a physical store. He has never had the experience and childlike splendor of making one that that needs to change.)

Anyway yeah. I would also like to say that Octavian is okay on a string instrument. However I would like to say that he put all his eggs into one figurative basket when he was a small child by learning one full song only. A 6 year old Octavian skipped over learning reading notes and whatever and just copying the motions until it sounded okay. He doesn’t really know how to read stuff like notes or whatever but has a pretty okay sense of Rhythm.

Don’t ask him to dance though. Octavian may look a little more elegant moving around or fighting but he is an actual newborn giraffe.

Okay that’s all I have for now. Have a rad time and I’ll get out the next couple passes of the CJ map.

Hot hot hot hot chocolate

HEY WE GOT IT

*Guys this is a silly little post and don’t take anything I say very seriously, if I sound upset or angry in my tone I’m not I just sound like that when I talk about opinions on Octavian that I don’t agree with lol- didn’t need to make this post and it’s long for like no reason but whatever, I am a blabberer so I have to blabber when I get excited*

*also me from the future; i just like talking about my silly little opinions and this a great stepping stone for me to wave my hands and talk about Octavian and Luke- and give a little insight on why I like Octavian more than Luke, even if there isn’t much reasoning for why I like Octavian as much as I do*

I’ve come across this post and as my two top favorites are being pitted against each other I feel a personal responsibility to finally go on my Luke rant.

I like Luke- the weird pedophilic actions that were in TLO.. funky and gross and I don’t like it and I hope that it doesn’t happen in the show (if we get that far). But in writing (again except for the weird Annabeth stuff), characterization, being an actual threat. Luke does it better.

Do I like Luke more than Octavian? No. As soon as I saw Luke I knew he was going to be my favorite in the PJO first arc, he still is my second favorite. But Octavian took the throne. I still think about Octavian on the regular, Luke doesn’t cross my mind.

Octavian’s writing, DOG. I’ll be honest, I have said it before, I (and if I may be so bold to say; nearly everyone) hates his writing. Things that Luke do better Octavian’s writing fails at.

Of course pretty much everyone except the niche tumblr corner I’ve found almost unanimously agrees that they like Luke and hate Octavian.

Luke and Octavian are like trying to compare something like a orange slice and a Orange blossom bud (guys I just ate an orange they’re on my mind and the first fruit that I can use in this comparison)

Luke is the orange slice, he’s made it full circle in his great (not including later Annabeth plotlines-) characterization, he had his bud- he bloomed, and now we get to eat and enjoy it and savor it.

Octavian would be the orange bud, he had the potential for having the characterization and care (except for the Annabeth thing and I won’t shut up about it because it’s weird and makes me dislike things for messing with a character that had not had anything in that area of characterization at all until his last breaths-) that Luke had. Octavian could’ve been something, but the ball was dropped. That blossom bud had the full potential to be the orange slice but didn’t.

Okay sorry if the orange rant was weird, but long story short they are different things that are hard to compare (like trying to compare PJO Atlas and PJO Orion or something)

I like thinking of concepts for Luke, I like deciding to drop that little Annabeth line and making concepts for him.

The only reason I probably don’t talk about Luke is because Octavian, Bryce Lawerence, and Camp Jupiter had taken me by storm and enamored me. Luke may be objectively better than Octavian, but for the purposes I use either of the characters. I think Octavian has more potential to look into and has more depth because he was absolutely butchered. Luke is a good character to like and enjoy and then you can’t do much with him- he has solid characterization, he has a story that is harder to build on in my opinion.

And for my reasons for liking characters and how I pick characters I see as ‘better’ for me to put time into, that is why I like Octavian more than Luke. Do I think objectively Octavian is better, no of course not. Do I think that Luke can give me any of the satisfaction that I get from yapping about Octavian, also not-

This is so unserious but I just like jabbering on and blabbering. I love Octavian and Luke they are my 1st and 2nd favorite characters in the series (my 3rd is Bryce Lawerence if anyone would like to know) and I wanted to take an opportunity to talk about them and this argument that seems to have been happening for a while. I like Octavian more because apparently I forgot Camp Half-Blood was a thing and only talk about Camp Jupiter and it’s residents and those characters just make me so much more interested than a lot of Camp Half-Bloods. I think Luke is fun and serves a good purpose but that’s like- it. I just like Octavian more, big shocker I know lol.

That Camp Jupiter powers post is uh.. somewhere? I haven’t gotten around to it- If anyone wants insight to my creative process for things like the posts that I talk about my hc over things in Camp Jupiter it’s literally me through the day just saying things as they come to my mind and fit into my hc world

craziest thing a pjo fan has said holy moly

Gonna work on some schoolwork but I’m gonna get a post out about my thoughts on how Camp Jupiter views powers/Godly inherited abilities soon.

Also map will probably be drawn.. at some point :D

Newest renditions of Camp Jupiter

Map!

I was chugging along in my Science class while we sat through a video and I decided to work on it a little more. I’d like to say this is the final ‘I’m just winging it guys on the draft based on my current knowledge’ type sketch. When I get home I’ll work on the last finishing touches and then I’ll get it on a bigger paper and all Inked out :]

Some obvious things here is stuff like the gate placement and whatnot. But from all I’ve read and chose to interpret as such (and not have other buildings randomly across the via principalis*?*) and if I remember correctly many recreations of maps for these legionary camps (that I’ve taken inspiration from) they do similar things, (as shown below),

Of course these are just reference pictures- I took my creative liberties and also looked through actual written articles and stuff, but I figured I’d also mention the whole Principa thing because it confused me too but for the sake of the map looking nicer and whatever I’ll follow along the more historical angle.

But the map should be officially drawn out, labeled and stuff before the release of the PJO tv show!!

I’m rendering that Octavian drawing because I thought it was silly enough to do so,

And I’m actually going to try to render something for once!! Anyway here’s a eye sneak peak,

Okay I’m gonna keep at it

*Update I hate drawing lips with all my heart and soul and I swear the next time I go look at this picture and have to draw the mouth im going to cry