
re-imagining HoO. Dionysus kid, Mars legacy. Sometimes proud member of the Octavian Discord Server
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*note From The Future: Ive Realized This Couldve Been A Joke Post Or Sarcasm, If That Is The Case- I
*note from the future: I’ve realized this could’ve been a joke post or sarcasm, if that is the case- I have been tomfooled. But hey, there’s some reasons that Octavian could get to be the Augur and Senior Centurion!)
Okay, okay! I’d like to present a possible answer. If I’m remembering correctly; Octavian can see the future (like in SoN with the whole ‘the Greek has arrived’ and the whole smoke and special affects) Apollo also notes that Octavian was contacting him when we talk with Apollo in BoO; So in some case he has prophetic powers that could land him in the Augur position, and secondly,
We are drawn attention to in SoN the fact that Octavian is stated to be a good Orator. Now, Oratory skills are nothing to brush off- a bunch of people have come into places of power throughout history due to being good Orators! So could it be safe to say he managed to through being a skilled Orator, making sure he had majority of his cohorts favor, and adding the fact that he was the Augur on top.
Okay that last paragraph was written weirdly, I just woke up. But yeah; his See the future stuff wasn’t stopped until Python took control of the Delphic cave and Apollo got blasted from the sky.
And this answer (i think at least) works okay because it gives him genuinely good reasons to get into the positions of power that he has. Rather than just getting through from money.
But, Augur: could reasonably see the future if looking at the objective fact parts of canon (in my opinion at least from what I remember, and it wasn’t all of one of the POV’s going ‘Welll, can Octavian actually do that?’)
And rising to being the senior Centurion: he could’ve rose through his Orating, careful strategic planning, and generally trying to show himself to look like the best option.
That’s my idea at least, it’s from what I remember from the books- and maybe it does give a okay explanation.
Okay but if Octavian couldn't see the future then how the hell did he gaslight gatekeep girlboss his way into being not only the camp augur but senior centurion of the best cohort because yes he's got money but money doesn't tell the future!!
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Okay! I’ll be honest, I haven’t taken the actual story itself into account for most of my uh just general thought process lol- more the basic traits were told lol-
But yeah, the Centurion system is actually something that we aren’t told like anything about which is kinda weird lol- and sadly Franks thing is a weird situation we can’t pull anything off of, sadly.
I don’t know what I’m trying to get at at the moment lol, I haven’t been awake for a long time today-
But it is an interesting concept to think about, and it does open up a lot of questions that can be asked that sadly weren’t expanded on in canon, and I think it shows somewhat on the distinction between what we’re told about Octavian, and what is presented for Octavian (if that made sense?)
But yeah, I uh, don’t really have any thoughts to like expand on your points, but the Octavian blackmailing I feel at least (I will note I have not read SoN in months and when I did read it I read it in one day so all of the info is like squished in my head) but the whole Octavian blackmail thing is shown blatantly, though it wasn’t really mentioned in the rest of the series(?) or like it wasn’t really expanded upon? Like we got one scene of Octavian blackmailing Hazel and then like from what I remember that was it.
But yeah, I haven’t really made any formative thoughts this entire time lol but yeah, Octavian really had somewhat conflicting between being described or implied to be a good orator and in text never being shown to be that great at it,
Again I haven’t read the books in a while lol- and I don’t know what I’m trying to get at anymore but like- yeah? There’s probably some actual thoughts here but I don’t know how to like format it outside the brain thoughts l
Okay but if Octavian couldn't see the future then how the hell did he gaslight gatekeep girlboss his way into being not only the camp augur but senior centurion of the best cohort because yes he's got money but money doesn't tell the future!!
Listen, Michael Yew, Michael Varus, and Michael Kahale in a Heathers au.
extremely upsetting that the ancient romans didn't have zoom because i would pay serious denarii to see mark antony mute cicero's microphone while he's giving a speech
I’ve been drawing for around 2-3 hours straight. I was gonna draw some runaway Luke, Thalia, and Annabeth stuff- since I had been drawing a lot, then I look to my hand, and the most egregious like writer’s bump or whatever is engraved into my finger like a mouse just shoved its nose there and my finger forgot to snap back into place, I decided to draw my artist rendition of what I saw,

I would like to note that I am left-handed but that face seemed to have eluded me while drawing this.
But I did get to draw some Dakota and Gwendolyn artwork, which got me actually thinking about Gwen- I don’t think we ever knew her Godrent, I think making her a child of Fontus (idk if that conflicts with any established lore or any actual mythology I just like the concept of child of obscure god that no one usually bothers to mention being a Centurion and leaving right after the other water-related kid is brought to camp is funny)
Anyway I think I’ll take a break on drawing, and I might want to actually talk about the new trailer because I saw it and ASHFBSINFEJSKAN- I know people are worried and cautious of it, but other then all 4s Minotaur (and Mrs.Dodds but it’s Disney) I think it looks pretty rad, I’m really excited, the split second shot of Medusa also looked sick, and I’m super excited to see them all in a relatively good live action, my bar is that it’s above the 1st Peter Johnson movies- which, opinions, the 2nd is only a little better if you don’t watch the like extra 50 minutes of dragged out runtime and just end it after Luke Luke’s everywhere and says the funny things.
ALSO THE MUSICAL
NOTHING ELSE BUT ITS RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD
I HAVE EVERY SONG MEMORIZED THIS MAY BE AN ISSUE
Guys I was scrolling pintrest for Patroclus stuff when I saw a quote from Song of Achilles and it almost made me cry- like I swear to god I’m not emotionally ready to read that-
Literally like if it wasn’t also because of how hard it is for me to get into reading 1st person books and how much I don’t want to sit there in school, burst into tears and then have my teacher walk up to me and be like,
“What’s wrong?”
“Sob T-they were so in love.. AND THEN THEY HAD TO DIE-“
Also reading the possible mischaracterization of characters that I love with all my heart and soul makes me too afraid to read it
(Please guys I beg of you all Thetis isn’t mean she loves her son to death- WAIT NO-)
But yeah. I guess that is an update, now that I have finished the Julius Caesar book. I am going to try reading TSOA.
ALSO I now that I’ve posted the bare bones draft I’ll probably just have the next update post be more of my notes for everything because my family is gonna go out and look at Christmas lights!