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"Fire is love, fire is passion, fire is sexual ardor, and all of these things." ~ GRRM "If the sky could dream, it would dream of dragons." - Ilona Andrews □icon by perlamarina •header by Melanie Delon

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I Have A Suggestion To The Anti Targaryen People In Fandom Who Bemoan (Wrongly BTW) That The Targaryens

I have a suggestion to the anti Targaryen people in fandom who bemoan (Wrongly BTW) that the Targaryen’s are evil colonizers.  If you are so goddamn pressed about colonization, maybe you should help out your fellow indigenous people.  Maybe if you are so goddamn pressed about a fictional feudalistic family who you wrongly perceived colonized Westeros, you can give back your land to your local indigenous people.  If you are a white person whose ancestors benefited from colonization, you need to shut your mouth about what YOU think is colonization, because guess what?  What the Targaryen’s did was conquest.  However what the First Men and the Andals did was actual colonization.  So either look at the proper definitions of things so you can speak accurately about them, or you need to shut your mouth about things that you don’t understand.  You misrepresenting colonialism is you cheapening the word, and cheapening the generational trauma and the near eradication of religion and culture from real indigenous groups who faced countless horrors and forced assimilation and are still suffering from it.  So educate yourselves.  However, I suspect that the vast majority of you are clinging to the word “colonization” as a reactionary excuse to justify your dislike of Dany and by extension House Targaryen.  Because if you all actually cared about colonization and imperialism and genocide you wouldn’t be misusing this word, and you’d actually be trying to help your fellow indigenous people one way or another, which you all aren’t.  So as a fellow indigenous person who actually understands colonialism, I’m kindly asking you to back off and stop trying to justify your hatred or dislike of something by misappropriating this word.

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1 year ago

“Jonerys has no foreshadows, no parallels, nothing other than them being Targaryens”

Yes, that’s an actual thing Jonsa shipper said to me, talking about all their Oh sO CoNviNcing metas and “foreshadows”. So HERE WE GO, ALL THE ONES I AM AWARE OF AND I HAVE SOME NEW ONES THAT I HAVEN’T SEEN BROUGHT UP SO STAY WITH ME TILL THE END.

1. Both bring their sigil animals, believed to be extinct, back to the game. Jon is the one to convince Ned to save the pups, and he found Ghost himself. Dany literally brought dragons back.

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2. Both start as secondary characters, underastimated and both gradually came to being leaders and one of the most iconic characters in both the show and TV as a whole.

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3. Both are the underestimated sibling. Jon as a bastard, Dany as a female. Both looked down upon by their family members. 

4. Despite being the undestimated one, Jon is said to have more of North in him than any of his siblings. Tyrion was the one who said that to him, I believe. And Dany ends up being the dragon, so more of a Targaryen or a Valyrian in a way than Viserys.

5. Their first loves died in their arms.

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6. What’s also interesting about that ^ is that Drogo dies because of the witch and Dany in books is sure that was the first betrayal she had the vision about, and Ygritte is killed by Olly, who later betrays Jon.  Ygritte in books isn’t killed by Olly, but still by men who end up betraying him. And again, both Ygritte and Drogo were savages, both killed by people who the savages have hurt

7. Both are believed to be The Prince Who Was Promised. They are the two main theories, for sure. And both kinda fit, but not entirely. But when you think about them as whole…They fit much more.

“I believe you have a role to play as does another. The King in The North - Jon Snow.“

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8. Both taken hostage by savages, who they end up leading. Both are attached to those savages, and are accepted by them, despite being outsiders. 

“You were the first one to bring Dothraki to Westeros, he was the first to make allies of Wildlings and Northmen.”

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9. Both start their journey in the first book, Dany with Dothraki, Jon with the Night’s Watch, which both have a bad reputation, as rapers and thiefs and such. And they both end up as their leaders, both trying to stop the flaws of their packs. Jon trying to help the Wildlings, Dany not allowing them to rape, or steal from in example Qarth, before the shit there goes down, that didn’t go down in the books if i remember correctly. 

“She protects people from monsters, just as you do.”

Both face many setbacks and become increasingly frustrated with their roles as leaders.

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11. Both feel so lonely and sad at first. Jon after seeing what NW really was, and Dany does not need to be even explained I think.

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10. Both, at some point are given the chance to literally make their dreams come true. Jon being proposed by Stannis to be legitimized as a Stark, and Dany being offered all the ships and money she needed to go to Westeros. And both decline because of morals. Jon keeps his vows, Dany stays to free the slaves.

11.  “One to bed, one to dread, one to love.” Jon is Dany’s third love interest, Daario was more of a bed partner (”to bed”) and Drogo was someone Dany was at first sooo scared of (”one to dread”).

12.  “ A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness… . mother of dragons, bride of fire … “ Blue flowers obvioulsy symbolizes Jon, that’s certain. And who is at the Wall???   

13. Ok so Dany being called “Moon of my live”, moon is strongly associated with her bc of that, “Dragons come from the moon” thing, like think about a moon in GoT and tell me you don’t think of Dany, and being the only female with silver hair, that being her most iconic trait. ( “ The old woman washed her long, silver-pale hair and gently combed out the snags, all in silence. The girl scrubbed her back and her feet and told her how lucky she was.”)  and this:  “The light of the half-moon turned Vals honey-blond hair a pale silver and left her cheeks as white as snow. She took a deep breath. The air tastes sweet.”

MOON TURNED HER HAIR SILVER.

So three things that can be considered to be about  Dany in two sentences. And the thing about Jon not smelling the sweetness, which some antis point out, is obvious. He is the sweetness.

14.  “Sometimes she would close her eyes and dream of him, but it was never Jorah Mormont she dreamed of; her lover was always younger and more comely, though his face remained a shifting shadow.” - Dany, ASOS

Targaryens are prone to having prophetic dreams, Dany has them as well.

“For the rest of his life –however long that might be– he would be condemned to be an outsider, the silent man standing in the shadows who dares not speak his true name.” - Jon, AGOT

“The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered name Jon Snow. His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain.” - Melisandre, ADWD

15. “Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger’s hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. “Ghost,” he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold … “ - ADWD

“Off in the distance, a wolf howled. The sound made her feel sad and lonely, but no less hungry. As the moon rose above the grasslands, Dany slipped at last into a restless sleep.“  - ADWD

Are wolves in Essos a common sight???? 

16. “…  but the Usurper’s dogs had murdered her brother’s son when he was still a babe at the breast. If he had lived, I might have married him. “ - ADWD

“The best way to make alliances is with marriage.“

“If he does rule the North, he’d make a valuable ally.“

17. “He might as well wish for another thousand men, and maybe a dragon or three.” 

GRRM clearly making us think about Dany, like come on, possibly helping Jon.

18. Both were sneaked away in order to keep them save from those who would harm them - baby Targaryens (Jon from South to North and Dany West to East)

19. “ Even with Ygritte sleeping beside him, he felt alone. “         “Her captain slept beside her, yet she was alone. “

Find me another example of someone in GoT feeling alone while sleeping next to their lover, for reasons. Also both mentioned during times when they had to choose. Jon between duty and Ygritte, Dany between duty (marrying Hizdahr) and the man she wanted - Daario.

20.  Both have Mormonts as mentors, Jon has Jeor and Dany has Jorah. Also, Jon wields the Mormont family sword Longclaw which once belonged to Jorah. That’s less powerful, but the only Mormonts we really know until Lyanna are with them, helping them, showing them the way.

21. “A Targeryen alone in the world is a terrible thing” guess what two Targaryens met and made an alliance and found love oops

22. Both were seperated from their animal for a long time, until they came back and helped to kill some bitches.

23. Both are seen as somewhat godly, Jon coming back from the dead, Dany being the Unburnt which gave us this visual parallel:

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24. Both share some moral rules, Dany being more a dragon ofc, but still like:

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the last one didn’t go unnoticed by Jon either, like WORD TO WORD

25. These two iconic scenes, that even Kit mentioned being weirdly reflective of each other

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26.  “Well, of course, the two outlying ones — the things going on north of the Wall, and then there is Targaryen on the other continent with her dragons — are of course the ice and fire of the title, “A Song of Ice and Fire.” ‘ - George RR Martin.

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27. “If destiny has brought Daenerys Targaryen back to our shores, it has also made Jon Snow King in The North.”

28. “These are two people in love…” Kit Harington

29.  “She didn’t feel she was missing anything [in her love life]. It took someone coming and forcing her mind to be changed,” - Emilia Clarke

30.  “He walks into the room and doesn’t expect to see such a beautiful young woman of similar age to him,” - Kit again. It was important enough then to make that point.

32.  “[Martin] did sort of say things that made it clear that the meeting and the convergence of Jon and Dany were sort of the point of the series.” - Alex Taylor  in an interview with Deadline

33. “However, as she meets and becomes more familiar with Jon Snow (Kit Harington), Dany’s outfits appear lined with fur, a staple of Northern attire that feels symbolic of her growing affection for the King in the North. “There is obviously some chemistry at work!” Clapton said about the relationship between Dany and Jon” 

34. “I think when she sees him return on the back of Coldhand’s horse, that’s a big moment for her in terms of the way she feels about him.”

 “It’s kind of hard for her at this point for, I think, not to look at this guy and not realize that this is not like the other boys”

   - D.B Weiss,  Game of Thrones: Season 7 Episode 6: Inside the Episode

35. “I don’t think either one of them really knew exactly how powerful their feeling were towards each other until these moments. Just the notion of falling for someone, that involves weakness. That’s not something a queen does, but she feels that happening and he feels it happening for her. I think both of them are on kinda unfamiliar ground and especially because it’s with an equal,” 

- David Benioff,  Game of Thrones: Season 7 Episode 6: Inside the Episode

36. Wars of the Roses were an inspiration for ASOIAF, Aand that war ended with Henry VII and Elizabeth of York joining the roses. Henry was an heir in staright line, that had lived his entire life in exile, Yorks were inspiration for Starks. So yup Dany and Jon work p e r f e c t l y. The war they will end might be The Great War, or the War for the Iron Throne. 

Henry - the red rose Elizabeth - the white rose

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37. And if the book version of HofU visions does not convince you how about the show version, where Dany almost touches the Iron Throne, but turns to go beyond the Wall instead, where she finds her lover and a child . SOUNDS FAMILIAR? Plus, just before she touches the Iron Throne , doesn’t she hear a dragon cry that makes her turn?

ADD ALL THE OTHER VISUAL PARALLELS THAT I DO NOT HAVE THE GIFS OF, SORRY AND HOW THE SHOW CREW NAMED THEIR SCENES “A DATE WITH DESTINY” AND “UNION OF ICE AND FIRE"

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Yeah, why do we even ship that.

credits to @midqueenally for all the parallel gifs


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1 year ago

Why are people obsessed with Daenerys getting pregnant? And specifically having Jon's child? Like they need her to bear the child of the main romantic hero. Like they think she will gain more importance through that because it's the Jon Snow's and no one else's, cause everyone else is beneath her.

Hello anon,

You must not be a book reader or else you would understand why I like some others have been saying that Dany and Jon will have a child together. I’m pretty sure that I’m one of the few bloggers who was pretty outspoken about the idea of Dany getting pregnant with Jon’s child early on. If I dig up my internet history I can probably find post from 2013 talking about this.

You see in the books there is an ongoing narrative theme through Dany’s arc and that is that she’s the Child of Three. Almost everything of importance that happens to her happens in threes. Three dragons eggs, three dragons, three awakenings after her fevered dream, three wise people come to meet her in the Red Waste, the three walls of Qarth she walks through to enter the city center, the three slave cities she conquers, etc.

If we go by what we learned from the HOTU, Jon will be Dany’s third and final husband and therefore the father of her child. Dany has been pregnant twice, once she had a stillbirth (AGOT IX) and once she had a miscarriage (ADWD X). Now, she is due to have a living child.

There are a lot of similarities between Dany’ final two chapters in AGOT and her final two chapters in ADWD. Here is an interesting one pertaining to this topic:

AGOT Dany IX “Mirri Maz Duur was there, the maegi, tipping a cup against her lips. She tasted sour milk, and something else, something thick and bitter.”

ADWD Dany X “Its flesh was tart and chewy, with a bitter aftertaste that seemed familiar to her.”

Mirri most likely gave Dany an abortifacient in AGOT and Dany in ADWD consumes perhaps the very same aboortificient thus miscarries/stillbirth in both instances.

As to your final statement, get off you ridiculously colored pink fuchsia high horse. Those of us who have been saying this for a while are just applying logic.

Jonerys baby for the win!

TTFN


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there's also the aspect that motherhood factors hugely in Dany's character it is a constant running theme in her story this is one of very very few times that I will say a female character almost seems incomplete without a child because Dany feels incomplete without motherhood esp in the books is this a constant point of reference op's ask couldn't be further from the truth since grrm made it a point to say dany+her dragons are the fire in asoiaf & the others are ice ntm dany is azor ahai/the prince who was promised/the stallion who mounts the world/aegon come again/aegon the conqueror with teats while drogon is balerion come again & her dragons are lightbringer so by op's logic asoiaf is Daenerys' story as grrm is a feminist who+ +has a theme of subverting traditional gender roles especially for men in a way that he makes his main female character the classic fantasy+ +classic fantasy hero instead of following the same old tired overused tropes & archetypes without at least subverting inverting+ +deconstructing or reconstructing them since that's the type of writer grrm is & his style as a 'gardener' rather than an 'architect' dany doesn't even need to have a baby either let jon's especially since her significance doesn't relay on the norm women are expected of but +grrm might as well do what he does best considering jon & dany both always wanted their own child & motherhood is really important to+ dany's arc anyway as a motherly figure (Mother of Dragons/Mhysa) they both cannot have so it's within grrm's nature to make so they+ +ultimately do in the end for the sake of irony which is why grrm uses why they can't have children & their mourning of broken dreams as+ +foreshadowing & part of the set up that they will along w/ the house of undying prophecy & qarth legend about the origin of dragons & dany+ +as “the dragon's daughter daughter of dragons mother of dragons bride of fire the fire is mine don't you see?” & “they wanted her the fire+ +the fire the life & dany stretched her arms out towards them“ & ”he would have you & the one who makes them [dragons]“ ntm dragons & the+ blue flower growing in a wall of ice symbolizes jon & the air filling w/ sweetness is how dany perceives it & it the winter rose blooming+ +out of ice also symbolizes reproduction as well as dragons not only in a literal sense since Targaryens & their offspring are called+ +dragons too for their connection to them as they are said to be descended from actual dragons & dany is consistently associated w/ the moon +throughout the books & told in the 1st book dragons come from the moon & even her 1st husband called her 'moon of my life' & aegon who dany +also shares many parallels w/ had two wives/partners & the dragon has three heads which dany is already one of the heads & jon is one of+ +them too so dragons & that flower from ice also symbolizes reproduction (out of what is 'barren' & 'infertile' & unlikely rare it should be impossible which represents what dany actually isn't too but seemed) especially since lyanna is associated w/ winter roses & jon is her son dany & her dragons also symbolize hope freedom prosperity & good fortune likely inspired by chinese culture while fire is sacred &+ +symbolizes life besides love passion sexual ardor etc ntm dany is a mother to her people she took under her wing as champion of the people besides all the many other parallels between dany & jon Daenerys Targaryen is the only ruler of the key five main characters of the most pov chapters unlike typically males in fiction🤡🤦🏾‍♀️🙃🙄
1 year ago

Daenerys & Jon Snow: ASoIaF Foreshadowing v.2

We know that Dany and Jon share many parallels throughout the series and I’ve noted many of them here. But in this post I’m looking at moments that tie the characters together with more than just parallels.

This first quote is from The House of The Undying. The visions shown to Dany here are believed to pertain to the three men she will marry. The first is a clear reference to khal Drogo, the second is a bit more ambiguous, I believe it is in reference to Hizdahr and that Victarion will tie him to the prow of his ship as Euron has tied Aeron (I predicted this back in 2014). The third is clearly Jon Snow. The blue flower is in reference to Lyanna (Jon’s mother) and the wall of ice is The Wall of ice where Jon serves in the Night’s Watch. 

DAENERYS ACOK

Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness… . mother of dragons, bride of fire …

~*~*~*~*~

These quotes make a subtle connection between Dany and Val.  Jon as we know is very attracted to Val. He first describes Val’s hair as pale silver; Dany of course has pale silver hair. In fact it is one of the most distinguishing features about her. So the connection here is that Val is a substitute for Dany. Also, note that the moon is mention, which as we know is strongly connected symbolically to Dany throughout the series, ex. “Moon of my Life”.

JON ADWD

The light of the half-moon turned Vals honey-blond hair a pale silver and left her cheeks as white as snow. She took a deep breath. The air tastes sweet.

DAENERYS AGOT

The old woman washed her long, silver-pale hair and gently combed out the snags, all in silence. The girl scrubbed her back and her feet and told her how lucky she was.

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In these quotes we find a connection between a dream lover of Dany and Jon Snow. In her dream/vision Dany’s lover is a comely young man whose face is hidden in shadows. Jon is described by Ygritte as having a sweet face (comely) and in the two additional quotes below we see Jon describe himself as being in the shadows and we see Mel describe his face as hidden in shadows. These descriptions associate the young lover Dany sees with Jon Snow.

DAENERYS ACOK

Lying abed in her narrow bunk, she found herself wondering how it would be to have a man squeezed in beside her in place of her handmaid, and the thought was more exciting than it should have been. Sometimes she would close her eyes and dream of him, but it was never Jorah Mormont she dreamed of; her lover was always younger and more comely, though his face remained a shifting shadow.

JON ASOS

Ygritte helped pull him up. “He’s bleeding like a butchered boar. Look what Orell did t’ his sweet face.”

JON AGOT

Tyrion Lannister had claimed that most men would rather deny a hard truth than face it, but Jon was done with denials. He was who he was; Jon Snow, bastard and oathbreaker, motherless, friendless, and damned. For the rest of his life –however long that might be– he would be condemned to be an outsider, the silent man standing in the shadows who dares not speak his true name

MELISANDRE ADWD

The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered name Jon Snow. His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain.

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This pair of quotes make an interesting connection between Jon Snow and khal Drogo (the man Dany has loved the most). Dany describes the khal’s face as hiding the thoughts within, while Tyrion describes Jon’s face as giving nothing away (hiding his thoughts).

Like the quote above where Jon describes Val’s hair in the same way as Dany’s hair is described, we see Dany describe Drogo in the same manner as Tyrion describes Jon. Making a connection between Jon to Dany and Dany to Jon and what they are attracted to and who they love.

DAENERYS V AGOT

“The khals face did not often betray the thoughts within.” TYRION II AGOT

“Tyrion notes that Jon has the traditional Stark face in everything but name long, solemn and guarded a face that gives nothing away.”

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Although the timeline is unclear, Jon was stabbed and presumably killed within the same time that Dany found herself alone in the Dothraki sea. Dany hearing the wolf howl could be the author making a connection between Jon’s death and how Dany would feel about it.

If Dany knew who Jon was to her, his death would be incredibly sad but most importantly it would be lonely. Jon of course is Dany’s last living relative, although she does not know this. That this wolf howl brought such strong emotions to Dany is definitely something of interest.

JON ADWD

“Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger’s hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. “Ghost,” he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold … “

DAENERYS ADWD

“Off in the distance, a wolf howled. The sound made her feel sad and lonely, but no less hungry. As the moon rose above the grasslands, Dany slipped at last into a restless sleep.“ 

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This quote is a lot more obvert then the previous ones. Here Dany is pondering what her life would have been like had her family lived. She considers that had her brother’s son Aegon lived he would have become king. 

The interesting part of course is that goes on to ponder that had “her brother’s son” lived they would have married. We know of course that one of her brother’s son still lives and she very well might marry him after all.

DAENERYS ADWD

“A crown should not sit easy on the head. One of her royal forebears had said that, once. Some Aegon, but which one? Five Aegons had ruled the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. There would have been a sixth, but the Usurper’s dogs had murdered her brother’s son when he was still a babe at the breast. If he had lived, I might have married him. “

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These two quotes work twofold I think. First they note the absolutely yearning that both Dany and Jon have to have a family of their own. This is something that is very important to the two of them. And second, there want of having a child, Jon yearning for a boy and Dany yearning for a girl.

For Jon he believes this has been denied to him by being a bastard (he wouldn’t want to father any other bastards by having children) and also by being a member of the Night’s Watch where he has vowed not to have any children.  And as we know for Dany she believes herself to be barren due in large part to Mirri’s curse/prophecy. This is especially traumatic for Dany as her identity as a mother is very important to her and a large part of who she is.

JON ASOS

“I might someday hold a son of my own blood in my arms. A son was something Jon Snow had never dared dream of, since he decided to live his life on the Wall.”

DAENERYS ADWD

“I will never have a little girl. I was the Mother of Dragons.”

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Here the author winks and nods at us as Jon is wishing for the very same thing Dany has, three dragons. 

JON ADWD

“He might as well wish for another thousand men, and maybe a dragon or three.”

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Finally, this pair of quotes is both a parallel and a connection between Dany and Jon. Both find themselves laying next to the person they love/are attracted to, as Jon ponders his lost of Ghost and Dany wakes from her nightmare not even the presence of these people they care about can drive the deep loneliness that they both feel.

This is also important thematically to Dany and Jon’s arc. As mention above they have a deep yearning for family, most specifically a family of their own. Both have always felt isolated to an extent from everyone else and so it seems that we are being told that something is missing for the two of them, and this perhaps is one another.

JON ASOS

Jon wondered where Ghost was now. Had he gone to Castle Black, or was he was running with some wolfpack in the woods? He had no sense of the direwolf, not even in his dreams. It made him feel as if part of himself had been cut off. Even with Ygritte sleeping beside him, he felt alone. 

DAENERYS ADWD

Beneath her coverlets she tossed and turned, dreaming that Hizdahr was kissing her … but his lips were blue and bruised, and when he thrust himself inside her, his manhood was cold as ice. She sat up with her hair disheveled and the bedclothes atangle. Her captain slept beside her, yet she was alone.


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1 year ago

Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow, parallels.

Both are orphans. Both lost their fathers before their birth, during Robert’s Rebellion, and both mothers died bringing them into the world.

They were smuggled away from their place of birth - Daenerys went in exile to Essos, Jon was carried to Winterfell. They both suffered abuse: Jon by Catelyn, and Daenerys by Viserys (Daenerys case is much worse of course). Dany was in the shadow of Viserys; Jon was in the shadow of Robb.

As Daenerys is sold to Drogo and starts her life with the strange culture of the Dothraki, Jon joins the Night’s Watch and struggles to adapt to the law standards of the life at the Wall. Later Jon has to join the Wildlings, the “savages of Westeros”, just as the Dothraki are the “savages of Essos”.

misslalwen also pointed that both Jon’s and Daenerys’ journeys in ASOIAF start with a feast: Jon’s very first chapter is the feast at Winterfell, when he takes the crucial life-changing decision of joining the Night’s Watch. Daenerys’s very first chapter is the preparation for her wedding feast with Khal Drogo; her second chapter is the feast itself. It happens at the same time as Jon’s story.

Their first love relation: Daenerys was sold and raped by Khal Drogo; just as Jon was forced into his relation with Ygritte - he had to sleep with her under threat on his life. Mance made it clear that if Jon doesn’t sleep with Ygritte, he would kill him (as it would mean that Jon remains true to his Night’s Watch vows and therefore is a Crow).

Yet every night, some time before the dawn, Drogo would come to her tent and wake her in the dark, to ride her as relentlessly as he rode his stallion. He always took her from behind, Dothraki fashion, for which Dany was grateful; that way her lord husband could not see the tears that wet her face, and she could use her pillow to muffle her cries of pain. When he was done, he would close his eyes and begin to snore softly and Dany would lie beside him, her body bruised and sore, hurting too much for sleep.

“I never asked you to lie for me.”

“I never did,” she said. “I left out part, is all.”

“You said - ”

“ - that we fuck beneath your cloak many a night. I never said when we started, though.” The smile she gave him was almost shy. “Find another place for Ghost to sleep tonight, Jon Snow. It’s like Mance said. Deeds is truer than words.”

 Both Jon and Daenerys develop affection to their companions.

When Drogo and Ygritte die, it’s in the hands of Daenerys and Jon. 

Both Jon and Daenerys feel guilty about their lost first loves, and mourn them.

Both Daenerys and Jon rose to power quickly, and at a very young age. Daenerys is Queen of Meereen at 15, Jon is made Lord Commander at 16. Note that it happens at the same time: Daenerys takes up residence in Meereen and becomes Queen, while Jon becomes Lord Commander, both at the end of Storm of Swords.

They are the two best examples of young leaders in the novels. How they rule, the difficulties they are facing, the trials they undergo. Their stories illustrate the battle against their inexperiences and will to move forward “kill the boy and let the man be born” “if I look back, I’m lost”.

 Daenerys was offered the chance to return to Westeros, but she decied to stay in Meereen to rule and help her people. Jon was offered to be made a Stark of Winterfell, but he refused because he knows he has a duty to the Night’s Watch, and because he feels that as a bastard, he doesn’t have morally the right to be Lord of Winterfell.

Both want the best for all the sides, and both struggle to be accepted by those they rule. They both turn their attention to the outcasts of the society,to those other people refused: Jon cares for the Wildling, and is the first Lord Commander in history to make peace with them and allow them to cross the Wall; while Daenerys releases thousands of enslaved people and does everything she can to keep them alive.

Both faced assassination attempts, by those who disagreed with their ways of ruling. While Daenerys escaped her poisoned locusts by luck, Jon is stabbed by his Brothers. And again, these events happens at the same time, at the end of A Dance with Dragons.

Both are connected to magical legendary beasts: a direwolf for Jon, and 3 dragons for Daenerys.

Both think of their family they never knew: Jon quite a lot of his mother, and Daenerys of Rhaegar and Aerys, and her ancestors.

Daenerys feels the need to carry her Targaryen lineage and fulfill the duty to her House, Jon also want to impress his adoptive father Eddard. 

He was no true Stark, had never been one … but he could die like one. Let them say that Eddard Stark had fathered four sons, not three.

“Remember who you are, Daenerys,” the stars whispered in a woman’s voice. “The dragons know. Do you?”

Daenerys tries to think of Rhaegar as her idol, while Jon’s idol was Daeron Targaryen the Young Dragon.

That night she dreamt that she was Rhaegar, riding to the Trident. But she was mounted on a dragon, not a horse.

When Jon had been a boy at Winterfell, his hero had been the Young Dragon, the boy king who had conquered Dorne at the age of fourteen. Despite his bastard birth, or perhaps because of it, Jon Snow had dreamed of leading men to glory just as King Daeron had, of growing up to be a conqueror

Both are gentle and kind people. And both are very melancholic

Finally, Daenerys’ prophecy from the House of the Undying:

A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness. … mother of dragons, bride of fire …

 The obvious reference to Jon (blue flower in a Wall of ice) is part of the prophecy concerning Daenerys’ love interests, symbolised by the word “bride”. 

 And there are subtle foreshadowings when Jon and Daenerys think of the magical beast of the other (unbeknown to them of course)

He might as well wish for another thousand men, and maybe a dragon or three. - Jon, A Storm of Swords

Off in the distance, a wolf howled. The sound made her feel sad and lonely, but no less hungry. - Daenerys, A Dance with Dragons

And I am sure there are more parallels, perhaps less obvious. Parallel lines are meant to never meet, but in the case of Jon and Daenerys, I feel these lines are sliding straight toward each other.


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1 year ago

Contrast & Parallels: Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow

-Both of their fathers died before they were born. -Both of their mothers died giving birth to them. -Both were sneak away to a geographically opposite location from the one they were born in order to keep them save from those who would harm them (Jon went from South to North and Dany from West to East). -Both grew up emotionally abused by someone close, Dany by her brother Vuserys and Jon by his stepmother Catelyn (Dany’s abuse was greater of course, Jon’s was more neglect). -All Dany had was her name and her brother, she had no home and no security. Jon did not have a name but he had a family, a home and security. -One was educated by Maester’s and Master at Arms (Jon), the other one was mostly self-thought with some education by her brother (Dany). -Both are methodical but in completely different ways, Jon is more analytical and Dany is more intuitive. -Both are described as highly observant, especially throughout AGOT. -At the beginning of their arcs they both embark on adventures. Jon goes North to the Wall and Dany goes East towards the Dothraki Sea. -Both receive/find their magical companions at the beginning of their arcs. -Both of the magical companions are the alpha’s of their pack. Ghost the wolf is white with red eyes, Drogon the dragon is black with red eyes. -Both have dreams about their animal companions. -Both reluctantly join cultures that are considered barbaric by others. Both are forced into a relationship from a members of these barbaric cultures. Both fall in love with these “barbarians”. Both are indirectly responsible for the deaths of their lover’s. -Both think of these lover’s often well after they have died (especially throughout ADWD). -Both have resided in extreme climates. Dany in the dessert of the Red Waste and the heat of Slaver’s Bay and Jon at the Wall and beyond the Wall. -Currently, one is in the South and one in the North, one is in the East and one is in the West. -Both long for home and the family member’s they didn’t know. -Both encounter abandoned cities in ACOK (back to back chapters Daenerys I & Jon II) described as white cities, Whitetree and Vaes Tolorros. -They both come to leadership at a young age. -Both try to change long standing institutions, Dany is trying to abolish slavery while Jon is trying to change the Night’s Watch -Both are trying to right wrongs committed by their ancestors, Dany is fighting slaver with her dragons, where once upon a time the Valyrians used their dragons to enslave people. Jon is trying to bring the Wldinglings back into Westeros while once upon a time it was the north lead by the Stark’s that left the Wildlings beyond the wall and kept them there. -Both encounter great resistance from the establishment, those who wish to maintain the status quo. -Jon tries to change the system from within (as he is a brother of the Night’s Watch and a Westerosis) Dany tries to change the system as an outsider. -Both face many setbacks and become increasingly frustrated with their roles as leaders. -They are both betrayed by said establishment and face assassination attempts. Dany is able to escape her would be assassins by flying away a top her magical animal companion while Jon’s assassination attempt is successful because he locked away his magical animal companion.

-Both yearn for the child they cannot have, in ASOS Jon lament that he will never have a son and in ADWD Dany laments that she will never have a daughter.

Jon:

“I might someday hold a son of my own blood in my arms. A son was something Jon Snow had never dared dream of, since he decided to live his life on the Wall.” When considering Stannis offer to become Lord of Winterfell, which he rejects.

Dany:

“I will never have a little girl. I was the Mother of Dragons.”

ETA: A few more

-Both have Mormonts as mentors, Jon has Jeor and Dany has Jorah. Also, Jon wields the Mormont family sword Longclaw which once belonged to Jorah -While Jon wants to be like his father Ned, Dany is the opposite, she doesn’t want to be anything like her father Aerys.

-Both have chosen to place duty over love, Jon with Ygritte when he chose the Night’s Watch and the realm over her and the WIldlings and Dany with Daario (problem more lost) when she broke things off with him to marry Hizdhar for the good of Meereen.

From masha-russia:

-Both start their journey in AGOT with a feast. Jon’s first AGOT chapter is during the feast for King Robert. Dany’s first chapter in AGOT is the preparation for her wedding feast to Khal Drogo.

-Daenerys was offered the chance to return to Westeros, but she decied to stay in Meereen to rule and help her people. Jon was offered to be made a Stark of Winterfell, but he refused because he knows he has a duty to the Night’s Watch, and because he feels that as a bastard, he doesn’t have morally the right to be Lord of Winterfell.

- Both want the best for all the sides, and both struggle to be accepted by those they rule. They both turn their attention to the outcasts of the society,to those other people refused: Jon cares for the Wildling, and is the first Lord Commander in history to make peace with them and allow them to cross the Wall; while Daenerys releases thousands of enslaved people and does everything she can to keep them alive.

- Both think of their family they never knew: Jon quite a lot of his mother, and Daenerys of Rhaegar and Aerys, and her ancestors.

-Daenerys feels the need to carry her Targaryen lineage and fulfill the duty to her House, Jon also want to impress his adoptive father Eddard.

Jon:

“He was no true Stark, had never been one … but he could die like one. Let them say that Eddard Stark had fathered four sons, not three. “

Dany:

“Remember who you are, Daenerys,” the stars whispered in a woman’s voice. “The dragons know. Do you?”


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