I Hate How I C Ppl Agreeing With This Post When It's Literally Just Some1 Saying "ur Oppression Isn't

i hate how i c ppl agreeing with this post when it's literally just some1 saying "ur oppression isn't as valid as mine" 2 every transmasc, also way 2 say transfems can't in any way contribute 2 the oppression of transmascs while contributing 2 the oppression of transmascs, also ur complaining abt us as transmascs "not seeing transmisogyny as its own separate axis of oppression" while at the same time refusing 2 do the same 4 our experiences, i fully understand that there r experiences that transfems hav that i don't hav, i just don't understand y u (OP) can't understand that there r also experiences unique 2 transmascs that u don't hav i don't think it's fair 4 any1 2 try 2 say that 1 or the other experience is "worse" or whatever and it doesn't help any1, ur kinda just being shitty 2 transmascs 4 no reason other than saying "we also hav experiences typically unique 2 being transmascs and sometimes transfems contribute 2 that" like ur saying that it's not that but then u go on 2 say that it's wrong 4 transmascs 2 not just immediately shut up abt our experiences especially when we're talking abt in-group transmascphobia 2 do w/ transfems being transmascphobic, which yes, does happen sometimes, bc u seem 2 think that we should b putting our own experiences down in order 2 please u and ur specific idea that u hav abt how sexism and transphobia works, since im guessing the reason u think that transfems can't contribute 2 transmascphobia is bc u think women can't b sexist? even though the reality is that yes sometimes women are sexist and sometimes women are sexist against men and since much like how transmisogyny is a term for the specific intersection between transphobia and sexism against women transmascphobia is the specific intersection between transphobia and sexism against men

if you honestly think sexism against men doesn't exist just look at how many times a man getting sexually assaulted (especially by a woman) is something that is played for laughs in adult comedy shows, look at the fact that in the UK (where i live) the legal definition of rape does not include the possibility of a man being raped making it impossible for men rape victims to seek justice, the fact that being a man is seen as inherently predatory and violent, the fact that being a man is seen as "gross" and "undesirable" in comparison to being a woman, being transmasc means i am literally losing legal protections i once had as a woman and it fucking sucks seeing ppl not even willing 2 acknowledge that we as transmascs go thru anything bc "it's not as bad as what transfems go thru" you don't know that, you don't know what our experiences are and you clearly don't listen when we try to tell you and when did we go from "transphobia sucks in all its forms and some groups of the trans community experience branches of transphobia that are more specific to that part of the trans community" to "transfems always have it the worst so no1 else's experiences r valid and u shouldn't listen 2 any1 else u should only listen 2 transfems"

sorry abt this being so angry i just keep seeing this sentiment over and over again and this was the straw that broke the camal's back and i just rly needed 2 say smth this time instead of trying 2 avoid conflict

I’ve said before that I don’t care if transmascs create terminology for their experiences with transphobia, that my real problem with “transandrophobia” is who has been using it and how it’s been used to vilify transfems, and even put forward “transmascphobia” as an alternative, but... If you’re still putting “transmascphobia” (or whatever term you choose to use) on the same level as transmisogyny, then it becomes pretty obvious that you haven’t really been paying attention. It indicates to me that you still think transmascs and transfems experience equal-opposite oppression, that transmisogyny is just “transphobia for girls,” or that transfems can in any way contribute to the oppression of transmascs. If you say “transmascphobes and transmisogynists DNI” or whatever, it indicates to me that you still haven’t put any thought or effort into actually understanding what transmisogyny is. You’re still trying to conceptualize it through the lens of how transmascs/TME trans people experience transphobia instead of seeing it as its own separate axis of oppression.

also not all feminine men are skinny and not all feminine men shave but it feels like most people still treat chubby feminine men and hairy feminine men as a joke even in progressive online spaces, like if a man is wearing a dress and is chubby and has body hair then half the majority of the comments r gonna b smth 2 the effect of "actually this joke is transphobic and making fun of trans women" and the other half is people laughing at what they think is a joke making fun of trans women

binary trans women are not feminine men, they are just women, the only time that a trans women would be a feminine man is if she had some really specific nonbinary gender stuff going on that meant that she also identified as a feminine man

the existence of feminine men should not be seen as a joke and not just because "it's offensive to trans women" im sick and tired of seeing art of feminine men and half the comments are saying "this is offensive to trans women" i am a feminine bear of a trans man and i am honestly so sick of people telling me that my existence as a feminine chubby guy is transphobic

if your advocacy for trans women relies on bashing feminine men then your advocacy sucks

The way people depict feminine men online in only like one specific anime catboy kinda way makes me wonder if some of you actually like real feminine men or if you just have a fetish

If the idea that trans men don’t exist for the benefit of cis women bothers you, sit down and ask yourself why. Why do you think a minority group exists for the benefit of those who are privileged over them.

Before you say the reason trans men in the workplace is good because they’ll reduce sexism against cis women, ask yourself why you’re putting the responsibility on trans men to make cis men treat women better rather than asking cis men to treat women better. Do you think trans men caused them to behave like this? If not, why do you think this is a reasonable expectation of trans men?

Before you talk about the ways trans men make better boyfriends, ask yourself how you’ll react when the real trans men you meet don’t meet that expectation you’re building up for them. Will you get offended if he rejects you for any reason (gay, aromantic, he’s just not interested, etc)? Will you get upset if he doesn’t want to have sex with you (ace, not in the mood, etc)? You expect him to not be misogynistic and ~understand women’s experiences~ but will you expect yourself to never be transphobic and understand trans men’s struggles? Will you fight for him if he goes to an OBGYN and they tell him they can’t help him cause he makes the cis women there uncomfortable by being a man seeing an OBGYN? Will you use gender neutral language around the subject of abortion and reproductive rights? Do you expect him to be your protector solely or do you plan to protect and defend him when he’s the one in danger due to transphobia? Do you see trans men as people or potential boy toys who know where the clit is and will eat your pussy upon request and listen to your problems while having none of his own?

And before you say “nobody says this, this didn’t happen,” why is it you’re so quick to assume trans men are lying about the types of cis women we’ve encountered? I wrote this because I made a post saying trans men don’t exist for cis women’s benefit and had someone respond with “but you can’t expect me people to ignore the perks!!! Trans men are trans men not men!!” As if it’s ridiculous for me to suggest I’m not an object.

Please return us to a world where Notp and squick are used for a ship you don’t like instead of just making up a load of bullshit about how immoral it is or w/e lol 

personally i think he's gay, especially considering the creator of the character says he fits the song "no girl's toy" that was sung by raggedy andy, as a gay guy 2 me personally that song is abt being a gay guy who's tired of society thinking that being a gay guy means u hav 2 b an accessory 4 straight women by being the "gay bestie" that combined with him having a lot of weird feelings abt being around women is super relatable 2 me specifically bc of being a gay guy

if i had 2 guess i think a lot of the reason ppl don't think he's a gay guy is bc of a few misconceptions abt stuff (long rant incoming!)

1) 4 some reason a lot of straight women don't get that we feel uncomfortable around them and don't know that half the time when we do play into the "gay best friend" trope it's as a defence mechanism bc of our gayness being seen as inherently predatory if we don't force ourselves into the "gay best friend" trope and so we're often forced 2 pick between being seen as an accessory or a threat, Jax is in a situation where since he's not part of society in the same way anymore it's a bit safer for him to not rely on that defence mechanism as much, also combining that with my hc that he has ASPD (i hav ASPD and noticed some traits of that in him) i think he's probably just so fucking tired of having 2 put up w that shit 4 so long

2) simply put, Jax has a lot of women in the fandom simping over him so they probably don't want him 2 b gay bc that would mean he isn't into them, not saying this is a bad thing, he's a fictional character and his sexual orientation isn't confirmed rn in any way just saying its probably partly y a lot of ppl r saying they don't think he's gay

3) the creator of the character said that he dresses more modestly and a lot of ppl think that all gay men dress very revealing, nothing wrong with how any1 dresses but it's annoying that ppl don't get that some gay men just prefer 2 dress modestly especially given how sexualised our identities are in society, this is also probably partly what lead 2 a lot of ppl hc Jax as ace

4) in a similar vein 2 the 1st point a lot of ppl heard "Jax feels uncomfortable around women" and immediately assumed this was bc he was a straight fuckboy misogynist

anyway that's just my hc on y i think Jax is a gay guy like me but also my theories as 2 y a lot of ppl think he's either straight or ace

I’d be genuinely curious to know how people headcanon Jax’s sexual orientation, because in my mind he’s like, undoubtedly gay, but that doesn’t seem to be the majority opinion!

Can I do polls? I’m gonna do a poll.

no nuance version of a fandom take i hav bc i honestly don't hav the energy 2 explain this in depth rn but if u think Jax is an inherently bad person just bc he's being an asshole in a video game but that gangle who has real person anime figurines of her friends who don't know that she has those is an inherently good person bc she's a shy uwu bean then u actually need 2 shut up, Jax is a guy who very clearly displays multiple ASPD symptoms and is dealing with his chronic boredom by being violent 2 npcs in a video game and also just kinda passively a bit of an asshole verbally Gangle social anxiety-ed her way into being an actual stalker they are not the same

anyway as some1 who has ASPD it rly fucks me up how the fandom has reacted 2 Jax, like when it was the pilot y'all were more than happy 2 fetishise his ASPD symptoms but then as soon as his symptoms r showing slightly more when again, i cannot stress this enough, HE IS LITERALLY IN A VR GAME IN EPISODE 2! then y'all r like "omg he's terrible, what an inherently horrible person, he literally is the worst person here" actually shut up, i hate this fandom so much