Elizabeth Bennet: I Went To Accomplished Woman Island And Nobody There Knew You. In Fact It Was Uninhabited.

Elizabeth Bennet: I went to Accomplished Woman Island and nobody there knew you. In fact it was uninhabited.

Hm, I know I said at least in my first reading of mdzs that I felt like Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng were actually friends as kids, I would like to remind folks that the catastrophic breakdown of their friendship was not because of some misplaced care but because Jiang Cheng is a stagnant character whose whole role in the story is to be the one who never learns, changes, and grows past his insecurities and resentments. They were always going to fall out with each other, even if the Sunshot Campaign never happened, even if the Wen Clan didn’t exist as a subjugating force terrorizing the other clans, because no matter how much Jiang Cheng cares about anyone, he will always place his personal resentments first.

I’m so serious: reread the pre-fall of Lotus Pier parts of the novel (flashback extras included), and tell me how many times Jiang Cheng says something genuinely nice about or to the benefit of Wei Wuxian without prompting. Point to me places where Jiang Cheng puts himself on the line for Wei Wuxian that is not him distracting the Wen. Compare the number of unambiguously positive interactions they have to the number of interactions they have in total, and I bet you’ll see that the positives are laughingly scant. Most every interaction they have together, Jiang Cheng is being a negative nancy. He’s the type of friend who, if you said “Today is a good day!” would snidely respond back, “What’s so good about?” before loudly complaining about what a nuisance your happiness is. Jiang Cheng is the type of friend that tells you that everyone else hates you because you’re so annoying, and you need to do something about that because he also finds you annoying so you should be lucky he “puts up with” you. And all of this negativity can be directly traced back to the resentment Jiang Cheng feels caused by his own mother projecting her insecurities onto him. Jiang Cheng, who cannot grow, learn, or change, is unable to extract his own self from his mother’s insecurities, ending up inheriting them as his own, instead.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like teen!Jiang Cheng is some irredeemable monster (that is reserved for his adult self), but Wei Wuxian already shows signs of being tired of his attitude as kids. He snaps at Jiang Cheng rudeness in the lotus pod seeds extra. He constantly admonishes Jiang Cheng about his blatant disregard for the lives and safety of other people. Most of the time, Wei Wuxian won’t even engage in the petty little remarks that Jiang Cheng makes, just treating it like nobody had spoken at all. The only times Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian move as a unit is when they have a common enemy—like Jin Zixuan—but without that, they are only held together by the fact that…they’ve been friends for a long time.

And this kinda leads me back to the point about the yunmeng friendship not being able to withstand the test of time even without an outside conflict: I would place the point of no return for their relationship at Wei Wuxian killing the xuanwu of slaughter, not at the fall of Lotus Pier. Wei Wuxian is one of two individuals that killed a mythological bloodthirsty creature responsible for hundreds of deaths, spent a week in a coma from his injuries and lack of immediate care, and what does he get for it? Jiang Cheng shows up with soup gifted to Wei Wuxian by Jiang Yanli, except he’s eaten all the meat out of it. Jiang Fengmian gives the most lukewarm praise to Wei Wuxian for his achievements—which Wei Wuxian neither complained about nor called him out for—because they were both trying to be mindful of Jing Cheng’s insecurities, and Jiang Cheng still made it about himself. When Madam Yu storms in to yell about how Wei Wuxian is a “bastard child” and he’s just trying to show off, Jiang Cheng consciously and unambiguously sides with his mother. Wei Wuxian had to drag his feverish body out of bed—after just awakening from a week-long coma—to placate pity-party Jiang Cheng, and the only thing that makes him feel better is not promises of continued friendship but of servitude. Even if at this point Wei Wuxian was still viewing Jiang Cheng as a—admittedly caustic—friend, Jiang Cheng’s view had fully transitioned from “annoying friend my mother hates” to “the servant I need to keep in line lest he overshadows me.” If anything, the fall of Lotus Pier, the debt placed on Wei Wuxian by the Jiang leaders, and the subsequent war probably allowed their friendship to last longer than it naturally would have (remember, they are only united against outside forces).

All this to say that while Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian may have started out as genuine friends in their childhood, their transition to enemies has absolutely nothing to do with that care. Sometimes we fall out with people because we just do not like them as people. Jiang Cheng’s resentment prevented him from appreciating Wei Wuxian as a person, leading to the end of their friendship and their descent into eventual enemies. Not misplaced or warped care, just pure, undeniable resentment.

Fandom misconception - "Wei Wuxian has an awful memory"

No. No, he doesn't. He has a selective memory that is impeccable when it is something that actually interests him. He only forgets things if they are unimportant to him - like who the hell Su She and Jin Zixun are lmao. But things he finds interesting? Like LWJ for instance...? He can remember every single instance they met some 18 years prior - having been dead for over 13 of those years, no less!

Yes, he (mostly) forgot where he heard what we know as Wangxian from, but he was feverish and slipping out of consciousness at the time. Yes, he forgot that LWJ saved him and protected him after Nightless City, but he was traumatised and physically drained.

WWX only forgets things during rather extenuating circumstances or due to trauma. Otherwise, his memory is actually impeccable. He remembers the melody he heard JGY play once (or twice?) during his forced empathy with NMJs decapitated head! Able to recall the song and play it note for note a few days later, after being out of it from being stabbed! He actually remembers the 'Hundred Holes' curse from glancing at it in a random book once in the Lan library some 5 years prior to seeing JZX2 riddled with holes.

He remembers every single exchange he had with LWJ during their teens. He remembers that LWJ paid for the food and A-Yuans toys during their impromptu Yiling date. He remembers the way the candlelight made LWJ's long lashes cast delicate shadows over his fair cheeks back when he was transcribing lines back at the Cloud Recesses!

WWX's memory is actually really, really impressive! He just doesn't hold onto useless facts, just as he doesn't hold onto resentment.

I can't believe I am about to say this, but ep 21 showed to me that FL completely picked right to hook up with head of secret police. This is a man with USEFUL skills and attitudes to have around in her life.

When her evil aunt hung herself in front of FL's house to create issues, ML was the first and only one to see (it was the middle of the night.) He had no particular reaction and just calmly, quickly, and efficiently moved the corpse and quietly hung it in front of aunt's equally evil husband's house so now evil husband is being investigated, that household is covered with scandal and our FL's family is oblivious since he didn't even bother mentioning it to anyone and just went to bed after this to sleep like a baby after moving and staging a middle-aged lady's corpse.

Later, when FL wonders if she's been too mean to cut off said evil aunt (still not knowing her boo just lugged around said aunt's corpse!) and is her family too much trouble in his eyes, he responds that hey, his grandpa killed a bunch of his own kids, his uncle killed a bunch of his brothers, and his father killed his mother, so nothing she does even registers for him and she could do way worse/have way more troublesome family and he wouldn't be bothered.

I kinda choked.

PS Girl, you are gonna have a hell of a dinner with the in-laws, someday.

…. UM!

Pretty sure WoH MC wants something a lot. User than a slacker life.

Recent Chinese dramas with a nonchalant MC who just wants to slack off (but fails), gorgeous men being good bros, marvellous fighting scenes, and a heck lot of chaos: A comparison.

wait can you please speak more on WWX qi deviating after the LP confrontation with JC? I've always wondered what that sudden sickness was.

Hi anon 👋🏻

Of course! I think this detail is often missed because of the rest of the drama and overall poignancy of the scene. It's also never outright stated as a "qi deviation", but MXTX expects us to use the information she gave us in prior chapters to arrive at such a conclusion ourselves - as she so often does.

Not long before the scene in question, WWX and LWJ were a major part of the driving force that saved everyone from an onslaught of fierce corpses intent on attacking them all at the burial mounds. He was exhausted from that and even though he claims to have been exaggerating to "trick" LWJ into looking after him while on the boat to LP, he was still feeling the effects of the past few days catching up with him. After all, he was stabbed a few days prior to them travelling to Yiling as well.

All of the above, alongside the heightened emotions of the past few days; realising his feelings for LWJ, how deeply he feels them, if LWJ feels the same way, coming back to LP after such a long and traumatic time, living through a second siege of the burial mounds and facing his trauma head on at the very place he died - all quite an emotional rollercoaster for our beloved WWX.

Then the altercation with JC, where he is being verbally abusive, just pushes all those overwhelming emotions over the edge and causes WWX to have a minor qi deviation. That being said, it could have been fatal, as qi deviations often can be. Which is why some fans find JCs unwillingness to stop attacking WX (both verbally and physically) and refusing to let them leave when WWX was showing signs of his health deteriorating, all rather underhand. It's also why LWJ lost his cool a little and WN served him a verbal bitch-slap to shut him up and finally make JC understand just how much WWX has done to pay back his "debt" to the Jiang sect.

WWX was under great emotional stress at the time, feeling attacked for not only being in love with LWJ, but being once again wrongfully blamed for everything that happened at LP - which even JC admits is simply not true.

Qi deviations can occur for many reasons. I won't go into it too much right now, but one such reason (in the MDZS universe) is being greatly affected by emotions or becoming emotionally unstable. WWX is so overcome with all those strong emotions he begins to bleed from "the seven apertures" and even starts to faint, finally losing consciousness - which are signs of a qi deviation. We see examples of this earlier on in the novel with LQR and the cultivator who escaped the Mingshi for help once they all began bleeding from the apertures and essentially qi deviating. And again when LQR wakes up to shout at WWX and qi deviates once more - which is hilarious 🤣Obviously NMJ, and his father before him, both suffered similar symptoms before qi deviating and eventually succumbing to gruesome deaths as a result as well.

So there you have it anon ☺️ that's my understanding of qi deviations (in the MDZS universe, as the term/cause/effect can differ from one fiction to another) and my reading of the novel. I hope it helps to answer your question to some extent!