Reposting My Found Fams Rant About A Fandom Being Shitty/completely Misunderstanding The Characters (Me

reposting my found fams rant about a fandom being shitty/completely misunderstanding the characters (Me with the Epic: The Musical Fandom)

Okay hi um I'm sane enough to do my rant because holy shit this FANDOM /neu

WARNING there will be a LOT of spoilers for Jujutsu Kaisen under the cut. ESPECIALLY the new release and chapters past 200 and manga only (not anime released) content

I feel like a lot of people in this fandom forget how young the protags are. Yuji and Megumi are around 15 years old. Why is this relevant? I'll get to that.

For once I was early to a chapter leaks release. Chapter 265. I was waiting for each translation and since they took minutes at a time, I found myself scrolling through the comments.

The amount of people that I have seen in the goddamn Twitter comments saying "Yuji's such a yapper" and "Yuji stop yapping and fight'" and "look at Sukuna he doesn't give a shit" I saw was just.. I don't know.

Especially to the people going "Yuji stop yapping and fight" I just found myself getting so fucking upset.

First up, hasn't he fought enough??? Haven't we gone CHAPTERS straight of Yuji fighting Sukuna? I know the action is cool and all but give him a break! Like I mentioned, he's only 15.

He's 15 and already had to deal with so much. Imagine losing your grandpa, your friend who had potential to join your side, both your mentors, your other friend who was practically your closest sibling (sorry headcanon moment), his half brother, and watch your friend get possessed and lose his will to live. Yuji has had to fight, fight, watch his loved ones die, and just dealt with so much shit of the jujutsu world when he practically would only be in his first years of high school.

He's already exhausted and he probably has not had any time to tell people. He's always busy caring about other people it's hard to think about himself. Despite talking to his most hated rival, he probably hasn't had any time to talk to someone about his past life. He's using the time to try to get Sukuna to understand, even if it doesn't work, and just cherishing the small things.

We see flashbacks of the pictures of all of the people who died. He's definitely thinking about them during his speech.

Stop it. Just stop. There was already all of that bumgumi shit from reddit. I don't need people trying to stop Yuji from "yapping" or whatever. He's not just yapping.

We get it. You're here for the fights. But deal with it. People don't fight every second of the day. Sometimes they need to let stuff out.

Let Yuji do what he needs to. Please. After all, it might be helping him

Hes already dealt with so much trauma. Please don't push him further to fight.

(Directed towards twitter) I hope you're happy. He's about to fight Sukuna again. I'm so happy for you you don't have to deal with any more yaps. So so happy. (Heavily sarcastic)

Having comfort characters is so funny because you hear or see something that vaguely reminds you of them and it's like

Hello, can you help me spread the link? I lost my son, my daughter, her husband, her children, and my other daughter’s husband. She is in Egypt treating her son, and I am the one taking care of her other children, the orphans, and supporting 11 other people. My wife has cancer and needs treatment, and I suffer from diabetes and high blood pressure. Diseases have spread among us, and the situation is very difficult. Please be of assistance to me and help me spread the link

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I adore the underworld saga! It's really just so beautifully written. I love the themes of grief throughout. I especially love the song the underworld. That final "all I hear are screams" is so powerful. I'm not sure if my interpretation is correct or unique but I see it as a reflection of the guilt Odysseus feels. Throughout the song you don't actually hear any screaming, not like in the Cyclops saga.

The interaction with the crew that died sounds more like a repetition of what Poseidon was saying in Ruthlessness. It doesn't actually feel like something his men would say. The two other interactions you do see are calm, peaceful. Heart wrenching yes, but not tortured agony. The agony is Odysseus' only and the screams are his own conscience.

(OML I JUST REALIZE I FORGOT TO TURN THE LAYER BACK ON FOR HIS HEAD TUFT ON THE FULL BODY-OOPS 😭😭) Since Seasonal posted their quick storyboard of Scylla I thought it was appropriate to share the character designs of Ody and Eury (+ the palette design for Odysseus bc unfortunately we don’t have a full color full body of Eury yet (we have his palette design but it hasn’t left the “base” stage yet))

(I didn’t include Ody’s scars for various reasons- primarily bc I’m dumb and forgot. Ody also looks slightly different depending on what point of the story it is) If you’re wondering why Ody has so many notes and not Eury, that’s because I did Ody first. Half way through the notes I realized “wait, what am I doing?? This isn’t for anyone outside of me and my twin?? Why am I meticulously trying to find space for notes me and them already know of??” So I decided to save myself the time and energy by not adding notes for Eury. I think these are both down for some revisions, but these are generally what they look like!

Here’s Odysseus’s palette design! The sketch was originally made by @seasonalmoss (a bit ago, so it was definitely before his character design was made). I did everything else! (His scars were adjusted a bit after this) gosh I probably should go through my thought process over this designs- I’ll try to list a few!

Odysseus being all droopy was a design choice made from the start (we joined this fandom in July 14TH 2023). We wanted to capture the weight of his guilt and sadness in some physical way. It also just makes him look more sopping wet. His fur use to be super sharp in shape, and his ears use to stand tall! This was to show how bold and out there he was! Between Just a Man and Survive his ears were simply kinked a little. For the entirety of act one his fur was incredibly round in shape. To show how he leaned a little bit to much on the mercy side of things.

A lot of the design choices regarding his palette design was with three things in mind. 1. Telemachus was actually designed first (bc Seasonal designed him and she didn’t procrastinate for over a year on his design)- so I had to make sure he looked related to his son (Ody being a tabby just made sense to us) 2. I really wanted to reference owls- as he is a trainee of Athena. 3. Odysseus is a very warm, loving and sweet guy (when not pushed into corner) so I really wanted to capture that with his design!

We really wanted him to look well-built and a little broad-shouldered- while still looking a little scrawny in some areas (as he just felt like he was weirdly gangly and scrawny as a kid). Hence the tapering of his body! It also just adds more visual interest. (Though I probably could’ve exaggerated these a little more)

Ody actually has these weird square shaped striped pupils- which isn’t properly shown in his palette design (I’m not sure why- ask @seasonalmoss since it was their idea. But I think it looks cool)

Catified EPIC: the musical Storyboard

Making an EPIC animatic 😤 anyways quick kinda low quality storyboard! Eurylochus now has a design BTW! Which isnt really shown here, but he was designed by my twin! @thequasarwinds (I’ll allow her to post it) his pallet design however (so his colors and patterns) were by me! I used a base so im not gonna show it here!

What do you think Odysseus's childhood was like

I’m gonna go based off of only Epic Odysseus, cause I feel Odyssey Epic is a whole other can of worms.

Little Odysseus was definitely a perfect angel and a sarcastic little sh*t, (both at once, to different people). Around his mother? He was perfect, said his please and thank yous, and always behaved. I also believe though that he was always playing pranks on anyone and everyone, and when they would complain to his mom, she would deny it because “he is a perfect angel how dare you” (she knows that he does it and will definitely be scolding him later, but secretly she is proud of him). Sadly, I don’t think he got to stay like that for long. Epic doesn’t mention much really about his father (the odyssey does, but epic mentions very little, at least in the Final Cut of songs. The cut song Man Of The House goes into it a bit though so I will be going based off that). I think Odysseus didn’t have as much time for childhood as he should have had. When he was 9, Odysseus was effectively told that he would have to be king very soon, and that probably dampened a whole lot of his energy. I would guess that being told that, Odysseus would have tried to prepare as much as he could, focusing less on childhood and more on being ready to take over for his father. He then became King of Ithaca at 13, and with that much responsibility at a young age that I feel effectively ended what he views as his childhood. He probably became more withdrawn, similes perhaps less frequent. Then he meets Penelope, and I feel she helped him to feel his age again, young and full of life!!

Long story short, Odysseus was definitely loved, but his childhood was definitely not an ideal one. (Also, go check out the cut song Man of the House, it’s really good!)