Some More Of These Two

some more of these two

Vox redesign! Gonna be honest right off the bat he was one of my favourite characters because I'm just a sucker for TV heads. As anyone can tell. Hope he looks unhinged

Season 2 wishlist. Charlie needs to see Vox for whatever reason. In front of her, Vox is the PERFECT businessman. Charming. Suave. A firm handshake, not too forward, complements Vaggie on her fighting during the extermination, makes it sound like she renounced heaven instead of getting kicked out. He is working SO hard to make the V's seem respectable after Valentino and the entire arm licking thing. And it's working! Charlie is Delighted! It's going great! Until...

"Oh, I'm sorry, I should probably introduce my other business partner! Vox, sir- mister voxtech sir, this is Alastor!"

At which point dramatic bitch Alastor finally steps into the room with the smuggest grin on the fucking planet as Vox glitches out trying to keep his businessman smile in place.

YES!!! i want vox and charlie to meet so bad because the shenanigan possibilities are genuinely endless. the moment alastor shows up vox is going to lose the plot, but until that moment, there's so much to explore with charlie's optimism and forgiving nature vs vox's exploitative attitude and conmanship—she's not stupid, she knows he takes advantage of people (similar to how she knows how dangerous alastor is) but she's kind and hopeful despite that, which vox would take as extreme naivete, but he wouldn't recognize right away i think how smart and determined she is despite that. she knows how bad people in hell are, she doesn't need to be told. vox is as unrepentant as they come, she understands that, and she has faith regardless. he'd think it was stupid but there'd be a niggling piece of him deep down that craves her unconditional acceptance; he performs so much emotional management for the other vees + all of his audience that he'd be very taken aback by someone who actively attunes to his emotional state with nothing but positive intent. what was i talking about. oh yeah season 2 radiostatic ideas. i want charlie to make them do a couples counselling session like sambucky in tfatws

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Hazbin Hotel - Thoughts and Rewrite

Having seen the first four episodes of Hazbin Hotel, and having been casually following the Hellaverse since the pilot (I have watched the shows but not consumed any outside material) - I have had a lot of thoughts about the storytelling of Hazbin Hotel so far. In discussing my thoughts and feelings with @ekholocationn I ended up having some ideas on how I would handle the overall arc and plot of the show to make for a tighter narrative and address some of the flaws I found with the work.

This is very much a broad strokes kind of rewrite at this point, and trying to stay relatively true to what has been presented to us so far - it mostly involves shuffling things around and reorganising/refocusing the plot.

The main complaint with the plot of the show is that the Heaven plotline feels rushed and the cards are being played too soon, what feels like it should be a twist is laid bare in the first episode and furthermore it undermines the very purpose of the Hotel and Charlie's plan. Heaven as not merely an antagonistic, but an actively villainous force, feels like it's come too soon - and the way it's being explored isn't really satisfying. Camilla's reluctance to fight is difficult to justify, where Velvette, who is arguably framed as a villain, seems to be onto something and correct.

Speaking of Velvette however, her and the Vee's are what I feel are the shows strongest aspect at this point. These are villains that have incredibly strong personality and presence, and moreso, personal connections and investment to the cast at the hotel. Vox and Velvette's songs are some of my favourites, and Valentino is shown to be a serious threat to Angel and his potential for redemption.

This in mind, in my rewrite of the show, Season 1 of Hazbin Hotel would cast the Vee's as the primary antagonists to the hotel, and leave the angel's in heaven and their villainy as a mystery and twist reveal for later in the show.

Charlie has no reason to believe her plan won't work, in fact, she has a powerful Overlord as a benefactor - who while he seems to be a little disparaging, is still putting resources into her project. She is doing what she can to try and rehabilitate these sinners, however, the Vee's want to see this project fail and become active threats to the Hotel. Vox, because of his rivalry with Alastor, and Valentino because he wants to keep control of angel. The primary tension is the push and pull between Charlie as a force of redemption and light, and the Vee's as a representation of temptation, vice and hell's worst qualities trying to keep the sinners down. Charlie does not meet with Adam and the angels in Episode 1, rather, she is seen to be optomistic and hopeful, and Heaven is kept as this guarded mystery and protectors of order and goodness.

What about Velvette the other Overlords, and the angels though? I greatly enjoyed Respectless, and I don't want to snub Velvette, who is clearly a powerful villain in her own right. I don't want to completely erase the plot of the exterminated angel and Heaven's violence from the show. I would keep the scene of the Overlords meeting, and Velvette revealing the angel's severed head, however I would make a few tweaks. Firstly, this would be the first time we find out about the fact that an angel was killed - we are just as shocked as the other Overlords. Secondly, the Hazbin Hotel would be more of a point of discussion, and we would get a more overarching conflict between the Hotel and the Vees regarding what to do about the problem of Angel Extermination. Do we attempt to redeem sinners? Or do we just kill the Angels? I think for the purpose of this plot, the revelation that Heaven is moving up its extermination would coincide with the meeting of the Overlords, really being a trigger for it, and this episode would act as a midpoint - raising the stakes and introducing the broader conflict after a few episodes settling into the attempts fo the Hotel to redeem sinners and the Vee's attempts to intervene.

In this story rather than being the way the show opens, Charlie meeting with the angels would instead be a sort of climactic moment - and the revelation that Adam is a jerk and Heaven has no intention of letting sinners rise but instead wants to exterminate them would be a sort of Darkest Hour moment for Charlie. Her plan has failed, the Vee's are gaining more support... This way, there's been some build up, and the twist feels more like a twist - and it also feels like more of a gut-wrenching betrayal because both us and Charlie by this point would have investment in her plan and a hope that it might actually work.

I want to see how the show handles it's ending before I fully flesh out this rewrite, but for now this is the sort of broad strokes as to how I would approach structuring Hazbin Hotel if I were to rework it. I may or may not expand on these thoughts later when there is more material to work with! This post also does not touch on more nuanced topics such as the shows handling of sensitive issues and character arcs, it is more of a broad strokes analysis and retooling.

I thought it might be fun to share my thoughts and I hope people enjoy them! I would love to hear other peoples thoughts on this as well :)