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Twelves! I Want This! This Is Great, I So Hope It Will Get Implemented!
Twelves! I want this! This is great, I so hope it will get implemented!
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Took a few photos from my small house in the Mist. Was just waiting for queue to pop up in /icam.


A nice analysis.
I think it's a bit of both. The Padjals are needed to solve more complex problem. Like the elemental imbalance that impact them, but the root is somewhere they can't interfere, but where a physical being can go solve. The problems isn't the Padjals or the jobs they take from the Elementals. It's everyone around.
Some problems was made worth by their beliefs, or attribuated to the Elementals falsely, but also, the Elementals are like animal. Very simplistic in their way of seeing thing. You harm them, they bite you. That it was an incident or that you got tricked don't matter.
And finally racial tension are to be expected. There always is when nomadic people roam the same area than sedentary people. Sharing ressources and territory never goes well, when people believe in sovereignty over the soil. There seem to be criminals thought, who poach or over hunt, but these bands would be made either of outsiders or exiled.

So while I get that Gridanians live under these.... essentially toddler-gods who can afflict the entire territory with horrible plague, who will severely punish well-intentioned children that were manipulated by adults instead of the adult, and can't communicate their desires clearly, which leads the community to adopt a lot of hostility to change, paranoia, hate and even violence toward outsiders, etc...
Unless there's more explanation for this I haven't found? I know I'm not 100% up to speed on everything Gridania, especially pre-ARR....
Keepers of the Moon were living in the Black Shroud outside of Gridanian authority, for generations, presumably not being laserbeamed out of existence. There would have been a lot going on outside of the Seedseer's effective reach, and there aren't Moonkeeper Padjal to make up the gap there, only Hyur get to be Padjal.
Miqo'te are described as traditionally being far more in tune with nature and eschewing things like major city developments and whatnot. They're predators, yes, but predators have a place and function in the natural balance of the world.
"Beast Tribes" are a made up word from Ul'dah to protect trade monopolies in Thanalan, and Miqo'te could easily have ended up on the wrong side of that label if the rich elites had wanted them barred from the city. Historically, they're a lot more "feral" than a lot of the other spoken races.
I mention all this because it's unlikely the Elementals divide people into Beast Tribes and Human Races. Sylph's aren't being deleted by the Elementals, either, despite certainly having no inclination to live like the Gridanians do and being fairly mischievous.
My point being... I wonder if maybe the Gridanians kind of brought the Greenwrath on themselves. A lot of the time. The same way that some IRL religious institutions preach hate in the name of a deity and stir paranoia and fear of eternal condemnation. They create sins where there didn't need to be... Justifying division and destruction and isolation out of fear (and thus a need for control), and actually creating their own problems.
Elementals might not care about a lot of the stuff Gridania does, its clear a few times when something bad happens to someone, even just getting sick, panic strikes that the Elementals are behind it and people act irrationally out of fear, like the IRL Salem Witch Trials.
If you look at places like Haukke Manor... a country living in balance with nature does not need massive monuments to vanity like that. And there's apparently a whole quarter devoted to mansions for nobility in Gridania (which the npc says we're not allowed to visit.) Why do you have that. Why do you think that promotes peace with the natural world.
There's Wood Wailers who talk about wanting to kill Moonkeepers on sight, just in case they're "poachers." That's sort of like killing wolves because they're predators. Outside of some genuine bad apples, though, a lot of what seems to drive actual Moonkeeper poachers AND Duskwight Elezen to banditry is a straight up need to survive. Gridania's essential demand that they have dictatorial rights over management of the forest leads them to disrupt these group's lives, sometimes with exceptional cruelty.
I know that "central authority" is kind of... not super really a thing for Gridania, power is pretty divided up and a lot of it seems to run on an honor system. But that seems to have led to a lot of Process Loss and enabled a lot of prejudice and abuse to run rampant. Especially now that the Elementals are weaker than pre-Calamity.
I guess basically I wonder if the reason Sylphs and traditional Moonkeeper clans managed to survive out there was because, unlike Gridania, they don't have social systems built from the ground up on fear and condemnation. They're not constantly LOOKING for reasons to think the Elementals hate them and someone to blame for it.
They just live "natural" lives, that aren't inherently dangerous to the overall balance of the forest ecosystem, and they don't have an entire religious/government body dedicated to trying to interpret vague impressions from the Elementals (this is a HORRIBLE system of government and EXTREMELY susceptible to personal prejudices/bias), so these non-Gridanians run into conflict with the Elementals far less often.
i.e. Moonkeeper kills a rabbit, uses the meat, skin, and bones, is behaving like a hunter, Elementals don't care. VERSUS Gridanian kills a rabbit, uses it the same way, but then a villager gets sick and their friends panic and they turn into a mob and punish the Gridanian, Elementals didn't care but now they're a little pissy bc you're disrupting the forest with your insanity.
Basically... Gridania is the real affront to the Elementals, their very infrastructure and their culture of micromanaging the forest and constantly looking for scapegoats, kind of flies in the face of actually living in balance with nature. The Elementals aren't omnipotent or a unified group, and seem to struggle to understand human minds anyway, so they're trying to work with this city-state and have established some kind of partnership, but Gridania is really its own worst enemy.
Oh, this is great!
And good point actually, I didn't think of Garlemald when writting it, but they totally would use regular ink. Poor Y'sthola. Thanks Hydealin their city got destroyed before she needed to read their roads/street signs XD
Spoiler for HW (I guess)
So, I was thinking back on how Y'shtola is blind, but it's basically handwaved away with: she use aetheric vision. Like, yeah, sure, why not she can see shapes through aether. Basically aether 3d mapping. Reading carving or inscription can be explained by how it has relief. Pretty impressive that she has enough finesse to "see" it, but okay. But how does she read book? There is no shape or relief. It's flat. And then I realized. Ink itself has aether. Which would postulate that nearly every book were written with enchanted ink, like the one you use to craft arcanist grimoire. Which beg question: do everyone use enchanted ink? Is it that common? Or is every books and treatise written with it just in case? Do only scholaf does that? Or does even the average bookkeeper use it for it's paperwork?
Anyway, that was my 2 A.M thoughts
Raven was around 20 when coming to Eorza Eorza, and should be around 25 now. People always think he's older for his demeanor thought.
How old was your wol/oc when they started this adventure? How old are they now?
I headcanon that the island was gifted to the WoL so they could relax, but also... "How do we get our hyperactive, always on the move, always doing something friend to get on island and relax? I know. We trick him with task and activities that are "work" but easy." (The scions, probably)
My wol. Would rant for days over nothing with the shit they've been through. They'd just go off about random shit.
Final fantasy xiv npcs " you are from eorzea"
My wol. "first of all don't insult me, second of all,when did I ever say that. You people just love assuming things about me without ever asking then you run off like these things are facts
"and last of all,who decided it was a good idea to fake gift me an island when in fact you wanted me to do even more shit for you without been paid actual money, what the fuck are these tokens give me my damn money, don't think I won't punt you "
"also if any of you so much as look my way when somebody mentions a monster I will poke out your damn eyes" I love how in a way it is cannon that estinien would join wol on this