1. There Is A Lot Of Gay Self-hate Being Projected Against The RWDE In This Post. I Ship Hetero Couples,

1. There is a lot of gay self-hate being projected against the RWDE in this post. I ship hetero couples, but I don't call lgbtq shippers 'gross and sick' because of their shipping preferences.

2. This video https://youtu.be/K3vYbF3_TAk gives a basic overview of some of the problems RWDE finds with RWBY. Its a lighthearted yet funny representation of what RWDE sees as areas of improvement in RWBY's story.

3. There are many reasons why RWDE and critics find RWBY 'disappointing' and ultimately, there is no ONE answer as to what about RWBY is disappointing. Adam was not treated right, Cinder's backstory was revealed too late, Qrow's voice changed. All or any one of the above reasons could be why a critic finds RWBY disappointing, and that list is far from exhaustive.

4. In the end, all we (RWDE, critics, rewrites, etc ...) want is to be allowed to raise our points and not be attacked for our views. The toxicity of the fandom is the root cause of RWBY's reception and reputation. A problem that is prevalent in the fandoms of most modern cartoons and tv shows today.

There’s something that I just remembered about critics/rewrites that say that they find RWBY “disappointing”. And something that I don’t get is “how?” What exactly did ANY of them want in the first place that isn’t some vague, generic answer, like waning it to be just whatever constitutes as “good” in their eyes? Or try to say they wanted “Monty’s Vision” when they either A.) never met the guy or actually worked on the show themselves ever or B.) seemed to have hated the show when he was alive. What is your perspective on why RWBY has gotten the reputation and reception that it has gotten since day 1?

1. They don’t like that their “male” favorites aren’t worshipped. Adam , when shown in the black trailer? was “cool”...to where they completed ignored he was willing to blow up innocent passengers. They ignored him dismissing the death of his men in mount glenn. they dismissed his attacking unarmed civilians in v3...they only started complaining when he and blake first interact...never mind that he was evil and had no redeeming qualities...they only looked for what they wanted to imagine...because the real adam was a jerk, they were upset that their fantasy was not the same as canon. Qrow trying to give up alcoholism? oh no, he’s no longer “relatable”? Ironwood being authoritarian is bad? oh no, we cannot believe in our idea of executive power/privilege.

2. when I joined during volume 4, the qrow worship was at an all time high.the words of monty and the writers were considered to be liars if it got in the way of ships and theories...one woman used mental retardation insults towards anyone trying to debunk the qrow is rubys father theory....when miles debunked it? he was called a liar by so many. So now the desire to believe that the writers are lying for the sake of one’s ship or theory became an obsession to the qrow fanatics.  if you don’t like what happens in the show? just call the writers liars or scream retcon...doesn’t mean its true, but the people will swallow up a lie in favor of accepting reality.

3. RWBY up to the end of v3 took place in a school setting where people using jaune to promote their OC male protagonist fanfics could have.  the jaune-centric fanfic writers who loves making jaune the protagonist..or adam? when volume 4 started, the plot moved beyond school to become a worldbuilding series, encompassing the four kingdoms...so people could no longer have their school fantasy setting. So they had to adapt to the actual setting of the show.

4. With Monty’s death of course, if something did not go the way a “fan” wanted? Adam being evil or dead, Blacksun not happening, Taiyang being Ruby’s father, Raven being a deadbeat mom who’s leader of  a tribe of killers and thieves? No matter what Monty said in life...dead man cannot debunk lies...so using a dead man’s name to defend your accusations against a studio became another practice.

5. Vic Micnogna...despite funimation and conventions firing him...double standards led his fanbois and fangirls to blame RT...After Shane left, the idea of claming RT rules with an iron fist became another practice. So RWBY and Roosterteeth became subject to double standards...anything anime or studios do that get a pass? RT and RWBY become villified for. Example? RWBY has about 100 characters...most anime have over 300...yet RWBY is accused of having too many, while most anime get a complete and utter pass.

6. Military and authoritarian support....America, not FMA but America, is a country where there is a love of militarism and executive power...where one person holds all the power. RWBY is where four councils hold the power...and where Huntsmen are NOT soldiers...they are NOT the mlitary...freelance contractors with a noble cause...so they are NOT like “Shinobi” from naruto or “shinigami” from bleach where everyone is militarized and obeys a central authority figure... Ironwood who controls both the military and the huntsmen, and tries to merge both, shows that atlas fails miserably in terms of its military... and yet people love the idea of one individual holding power if he’s cool enough... for all the hatred and problems of capitalism? the hatred of robyn hill and her attempts to defend the downtrodden of atlas gets ignored in favor of defending anything the atlas military does. RWBY is anti-military and anti-capitalism....qrow and glynda both call out atlas and ironwood...

7. Ironwood...sigh...in volume 2 he brought a MILITARY ARMY to vale during a time of peace...that’s like nazi germany bringing an army to austria during the olympics....also in volume 2? he went behind ozpin’s back to tell the council to fire ozpin...what did ironwood say afterwards ? “you brought this upon yourself”...he demands trust from others, but refuses to show trust in others..glynda calls him out on this...volume 3, he conducts military projects, aka penny, refuses to reveal her identity to ozpin, and treats her as a machine, even telling her not to make friends...people say that volume 8 he “suddenly became a villain”...did everyone forget him literally abusing his two council seats in volume 4? Jacques schnee of all people telling him to get a grip? how many people have “good intentions” but are still tyrants? An Anti-villain

8. Raven....they wanted her to be an anti-hero....that she had a “good reason” a “morally justifiable” reason for abandoning yang and taiyang... but raven being scared of salem and wanting to save her own skin? the bandit tribe being killers and thieves? oh no, raven was actually a bad person? noo, their fantasy of what they wanted her to be was ruined by what she actually was....so again, rather than face reality, they scream bad writing..

10.money and clout...youtube algorithms benefit from hate...and people make money and popularity off hating the show and its writers...making money off trashing CRWBY has become popular...so has gaining fame of hating.

11...RWBY is a show about four female protagonists...and yet people are so obsessed with the men...next, they’re angry that the women do not conform to their wants/expectations...they get mad that their headcanons are not canon...they get mad that they cannot fantasize a woman being straight...there’s a hardcore qrowxsummer shipper whose a VA...while I commission malexmale and femalexfemale fanart and fancomcis, that dude commissions his self-insert being shipped with lesbians in legend of korra, she-ra, and rwby...gross, and sick... sigh...fanbois AND fangirls seem to get some sick twisted pleasure of hating on female characters and subjecting them AND lgbt to double standards...you need only look at the hatred of korrasami and the anti-lok vidoes to see how women protagonists in anime are subjected to double standards.

Well...hope that helps answer your question...

This is what I’ve come to believe about the hatedom, about rwde, about the “rewriters” and anyone who ditches constructive criticism in favor of “valid criticism”

oh yes! for anyone interested! I built a list of 121 pro-rwby youtuber channels! I hope this helps you all! https://canonseeker.tumblr.com/post/669777878220685312/111-rwby-youtube-channels-for-rwby-fans-to-enjoy

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Character Design

It is common for new writers to try and cram their character sheet with pages of details and backstory. With column upon column for trivia, minutiae, and physical statistics. Just like the character sheets of the Writer's personal inspiration.

Writers don't realize that those character sheets are written from the perspective of the audience. An audience who has read the story and compiled these sheets from the details they gleaned from the story they have read.

New Writers should try to make their characters as simple as possible. Heck, leave a few gaps here and there so that they can fill these gaps over the course of the story they write.

Endeavor Apologists are not writing off Endeavor's 'abuse' of his family. But they recognize that there is more to Endeavor's character, and his actions are a product of a society that puts affection on people with Quirks, and within that class of people, those with marketable quirks are favored over those who do not.

Endeavor's life and lifestyle revolved around this society which is focused on the idea of idolizing powerful quirks. What Endeavor believes is good for his family is shaped by the rather toxic environment of the BNHA society and the pro-hero industry. Having a strong quirk is what gets you ahead in life, so Endeavor ensures that his children who have quirks are trained to control these keys to success, which is what any parent would do for their child.

Despite Endeavor's good intentions, however, the results are destructive and self-destructive. That is something Endeavor only recognizes after his family is nearly torn apart. Now Endeavor is trying to fix the consequences of believing in a flawed system that ultimately brought more harm than good to what Endeavor ultimately cares the most about.

Endeavor apologists are not dismissing the abuse. But we recognize that Endeavor is a result of an abusive society. We also recognize that Endeavor is trying to change as a conscious rebellion against the pro-hero industry and society. Which is a heroic action all on its own.

Endeavor had a lasting impact on his family, but the fault was due to the environment he is a part of.

Recognizing that Endeavor is a product of a broken system and that he is working around it is something an Endeavor fan can respect.

That recognition of something wrong and working to change in some way does not erase Endeavor's actions, but it is something Endeavor Apologists choose to focus on MORE than the abusive behavior. Abusive behavior that is an extension of the abusive nature of the Pro-Hero industry the characters in the story slavishly support.

To hate on Endeavor Apologists for focusing on MORE than ONE aspect of Endeavor's character is to miss the fact that the abuse reflects worse on the Pro-Hero industry and the world-building.

i am so fucking pissed right now, i have to explain this. BNHA manga spoilers and TW for abuse, self harm is mentioned

I am so overly, absolutely pissed that people are just writing off and dissmissing the abuse and hell that Endeavor put is family through. simply because of the fact that he saved Natsuo once. one good deed is NOT enough to erase 19 years of trauma.

i understand he's making the decision to "atone" or whatever, but doing good things doesn't erase the fact that he was literally abusive.

Touya was literally raised to believe, FROM BIRTH, that his worth revolves around his potential as a hero, and his potential as a hero is dependent on the strength of his quirk, and having a strong quirk = affection which = attention. That was what Endeavor made him internalize from infancy. because of this, even after Endeavor told him to stop using his quirk, Touya continued to train, which, in of itself, was self harm. he continued burning himself due to the neglect and severe psychological abuse he was put through.

he abused his wife to the point of insanity, and because of that, her own children's faces were triggers for her. he kept Shoto separate from his siblings. he was fucking neglectful.

idgaf what you say, he was abusive.

he may be changing, but dont you FUCKING dare start defending him.

i get that this is fiction. i know the Todoroki family isn't real. however abuse is real, it has lifelong effects on people, it hurts, and it kills. if y'all are defending the abusers and blaming the victims even just in fiction, I don't even wanna imagine how y'all would react if you found out someone was/is being abused irl.

it sickens me that Endeavor apologists exist.

I rp'ed Cinder once before, and it was like what OP said, on the fly and on short notice. OP is highkey kinda right

This has probably been pointed out by others already, but I feel like people miss out on the deeper meaning behind Cinder’s backstory. Cinder was one of the few characters CRWBY thought it was important enough for us to know her past (which is one of the biggest reasons I don’t think she’s just another villain waiting to die), and like I’ve said many times some liked it, some didn’t, and some were expecting more. However I think there’s one thing people miss out on because they thought it was another generic edgy Cinderella story.

And to me it’s that I believe Cinder is trying to find meaning from her suffering. Have you noticed that there was no talk of destiny throughout Cinder’s backstory? Destiny is constantly brought up when the maiden characters are involved. This means this whole thing of Cinder believing in destiny most likely was manufactured by Salem and put into Cinder’s mind. Cinder just wants her suffering to mean something, because as it stands it looks like she suffered for no other reason other than she exists. She wants to believe that everything she went through is leading to something grand and amazing that’ll make all her suffering worth it.

I know some people aren’t as invested in Cinder’s character as I and many others are, but I really find it disingenuous for people to write off Cinder as “wanting power for power’s sake”. I know some aren’t going to analyze Cinder to the same degree that I do, and that’s fine. Hell, I could be reading too deep into it for all I know. However, CRWBY has put a lot into Cinder as a character, and I feel like if they really just wanted to make a character that’s strictly power hungry who got in way over their head, then V5 was the best time to kill her off. But obviously she’s still here, I feel there’s more to Cinder’s character than the average RWBY critic gives her credit for.

The thing about Cinder’s character that I love is that we don’t know exactly where her character arc is going. It could be death, redemption, or maybe she seeks to be independent from Salem. The best part is she’s so unpredictable.

This really works for me as a writer.

i might elaborate later but fanfic replies literally develop writer’s metacognition and make them better writers