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The "Younger more beautifull queen'' prophecy is strait out of the Snowhite, i always found it funny how people almost always releate this prophecy with Margeary Tyrell, Dany and even Arya but rarely with Sansa who of all these girls has the biggest conection with the fairy tales and with Cersie
People read the words "younger and more beautiful" and think it's a badge of validation. If their fave is the YMBQ, they are the prettiest and a queen and they win! You know, feminism!
But I'm not sure it's supposed to be Sansa. I think it's a twist.
To copy from another trap snapping shut:
"You said—" "—that we fuck beneath your cloak many a night. I never said when we started, though." (ASOS, Jon II)
The trick is in the timing.
This is the prophecy in her memory:
"Aye." Malice gleamed in Maggy's yellow eyes. "Queen you shall be . . . until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear." (AFFC, Cersei VIII)
This is her interpretation of it:
"It is just . . . the maegi knew how many children I would have, and she knew of Robert's bastards. Years before he'd sired even the first of them, she knew. She promised me I should be queen, but said another queen would come . . ." Younger and more beautiful, she said. ". . . another queen, who would take from me all I loved." (AFFC, Cersei VIII)
This younger and more beautiful queen actually sounds kind of sinister to me. Cersei loves her children, and apart from Joffrey, who was all of 13 and should never have been allowed to hold as much power as he did, they are innocent and kind people. Taking them from Cersei, i.e. killing them, is not exactly an admirable thing. Is this the role of a heroic character?
Sansa obviously was used in Joffrey's murder, but she didn't choose to kill him, and she is horrified by what transpired and her unwilling involvement. Tommen and Myrcella are not in danger from her at all.
The fact that Maggy's eyes gleamed with malice suggests to me that the prophecy is deliberately misleading and primarily meant to hurt Cersei, who had treated her with arrogant contempt. In this she absolutely succeeds, since Cersei's desire to forestall the prophecy causes her to take risks and hasten her own undoing.
In the prophecy, GRRM separates the YMBQ from Maggy's general confirmation with his trademark Ellipsis Of Significance.
The other two questions get elaborations but no such treatment.
“When will I wed the prince?” she asked. “Never. You will wed the king.”
and
“Will the king and I have children?” she asked. “Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you.”
Those are the ones we know are true, so does Cersei.
But the middle one?
"Aye." Malice gleamed in Maggy's yellow eyes. "Queen you shall be . . . until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear."
This one has a threat built into it.
Or a lie. Or a trick.
Cersei responds with this:
Anger flashed across the child’s face. “If she tries I will have my brother kill her.”
Which is interesting in this context:
The old woman was not done with her, however. “Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds,” she said. “And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
Which is, of course, explained as this:
“Tyrion is the valonqar,” she said. “Do you use that word in Myr? It’s High Valyrian, it means little brother.” She had asked Septa Saranella about the word, after Melara drowned. Taena took her hand and stroked it. “This was a hateful woman, old and sick and ugly. You were young and beautiful, full of life and pride. (...) This creature dared not strike you, because of who you were, so she sought to wound you with her viper’s tongue. (AFFC, Cersei IX)
A Cersei young and beautiful. And cruel and spiteful. A Viper's tongue that wounds?
"Ser Gregor." Qyburn shrugged. "I have examined him, as you commanded. The poison on the Viper's spear was manticore venom from the east, I would stake my life on that." (...) "It may be as Your Grace suggests, though in most cases adulterating a poison only lessens its potency. It may be that the cause is . . . less natural, let us say. A spell, I think." Is this one as big a fool as Pycelle? "So are you telling me that the Mountain is dying of some black sorcery?" Qyburn ignored the mockery in her voice. "He is dying of the venom, but slowly, and in exquisite agony. My efforts to ease his pain have proved as fruitless as Pycelle's. (AFFC, Cersei II)
A slow-working poison that kills with certainty. Black sorcery.
"Bloodmagic is the darkest kind of sorcery. Some say it is the most powerful as well." (AFFC, Cersei VIII)
Of course, not all magic is magic.
A woman's life is nine parts mess to one part magic, you'll learn that soon enough . . . and the parts that look like magic often turn out to be messiest of all." (ACOK, Sansa IV)
Sometimes it's more prosaic.
"Lovelier than you know, sweet child. It's magic, you see. It's justice you hold. It's vengeance for your father." (ACOK, Sansa VIII)
Magical poison.
"Black amethysts," he swore. "There was magic in them." "There was murder in them!" (ASOS, Sansa V)
So if we take a turn to manipulation and metaphors:
Cersei favored him with a smile; she liked a bit of wit, so long as she was not its target. "Ser Gregor perished of his wounds, just as Grand Maester Pycelle foretold." Pycelle harrumphed and eyed Qyburn sourly. "The spear was poisoned. No man could have saved him." (AFFC, Cersei IV)
Dying of a slow-working poison, as foretold.
Cersei even makes the connection herself:
Instead he gave me Robert, and Maggy's curse bloomed like some poisonous flower. (AFFC, Cersei V)
And again:
That was the right answer. "First you must confess your treason. A man's sins can poison his soul if left to fester. I know it must be hard for you to live with what you've done. It is past time that you rid yourself of your shame." (AFFC, Cersei IX)
I think Cersei is the younger, more beautiful queen. Maggy knew her for what she was and poisoned her with a self-fulfilling "prophecy". She said a younger and more beautiful queen would come. She never said when. She was there all along.
As for the valonqar, in this instance, she might actually be right, but not fully. If Tyrion is involved in her death (likely very metaphorically and with a twist), she will have nurtured his hatred of her all her life.
I do think it really speaks to the quality of asoiaf that it’s been almost 28 years since the first book was released, almost 13 since Dance was released, and it still has an active and dedicated fan base writing metas and eagerly anticipating the rest of the series that might never come







ASOIAF + Horror Themes
I go off abt this every few months but Game of Thrones did sooooo much damage to the fandom’s collective idea about what color auburn hair is because it sure is NOT what they did for Sophie. Catelyn’s hair is pretty damn close to dark auburn. But a lighter auburn is NOT red like that it simply isn’t. That’s why Catelyn said the red IN Sansa hair would catch the torchlight. It has red IN it but in most lights auburn looks more brunette. If you have auburn hair your experience will be that some people consider you a redhead and others would be shocked that anyone considers you a redhead.
I have fairly light auburn hair. These are unedited images of my hair taken moments apart.


In the one on the right, I had moved so the sunbeam could hit my hair directly.




More images. It’s a very dynamic color that can look very red or not red at all. In the last one I am indoors in low light and it doesn’t really look red at all. That’s what it’s going to look like most of the time.
Maybe people are confused because Robb and Edmure are described as having red/fiery beard, but it’s actually super common for men with auburn hair to have RED red facial hair.

Like this.
It also doesn’t help that searching auburn hair returns a lot of true redheads. Especially, for some reason, if you want a reference for men with auburn hair.



But here are more men with auburn hair. Obv you are free to draw Catelyn, Sansa, Robb, Bran, and Rickon with whatever sort of hair you want. But auburn =/= ginger :’)