Who Do You Think Is Hugging Spider Here?

Who do you think is hugging Spider here?

I've seen this scene in video format before and the Na'vi stunt double swings Spider around when they pick him up it's just so cute! I've seen two theories about where these images came from:

it's a deleted scene from Avatar 2. When Spider finally reunites with the Sully family on the rocks, Kiri is so relieved to see him that she picks him up and swings him. But if this is true, I believe the scene was deleted because it felt a little two joyful with everyone still grieving Neteyam so they changed it to the more bittersweet scene where Kiri puts her hand on Spider's chest and feels his heartbeat. As cute as it would be to see Spider get swung around, I think the change was the right choice. But I'm also not 100% sure this is an A2 scene because if you look closely at the second image, you can see Spider has a braid that extends below his dreadlocks. We never see Spider with that extra long braid in Avatar 2, we've only ever seen him with that hair in BTS images for Avatar 3, which leads me to the second theory about what this image is from:

it's a new scene from Avatar 3. If that's the case we have very little information to go off of, but I notice two things about the images. Firstly, they're standing on what looks like the woven material that makes up the Na'vi marui and walkways, and secondly, that Spider is not wearing a mask. The first thing gives us a hint about the setting and implies they are outdoors, and the second thing gives further evidence that the "miracle" in the leaked script will actually come true. I also think based on the height of the stunt double that the person picking him up is a teenager, so most likely Kiri or Lo'ak. Unfortunately, without further context there's nothing else to say about these images other than that it takes place after Spider's "miracle" and Kiri or Lo'ak are hugging him for some reason.

I wonder if the airships are the work of Ash's na'vi or the good guys. Can't wait for that!

I believe the airships belong to the Windtraders! James Cameron has hinted that we will not just be introduced to the Ash Clan, but also another Na'vi group called the Windtraders. We know literally nothing about them except for that they presumably like wind and trading things. I think giant floating sky ships with plenty of storage space for trading goods must belong to the Windtraders!

Hi! Quick question, do you know if this leak is official? I found it on Tik Tok but I don't think I've seen it before so I wonder if it's not just fan made 😅

yoooo I haven't seen this before! No idea if it's real or not, but it sure looks like a real BTS shot to me. If this is a fake, the creator certainly went through a lot of work just to make the image so blurry you can hardly tell what's happening. You'll have to ask the OP on tiktok where they got it from if you want to confirm anything.

It looks like that Na'vi guy is about to knock the living Eywa out of Varang lmaooooo I wonder who it is

ooh I love all of this theorizing! The D23 images breathed some life back into the fandom!

One thing I disagree with is the Youtuber Avatar Theory's theory that the Ash Na'vi cut their kurus off and give them to Varang. We see in the other Ash Na'vi image that there's a whole bunch of them flying on those ikran-like creatures, which you can only do if you have a kuru. Even though it would be a way to show the extreme devotion of your followers, it wouldn't make sense to essentially cripple some of your loyal subjects just for the sake of a power play. Without a kuru, her followers would be unable to ride any creatures, making them less useful warriors and hunters. I love Avatar Theory, but I think he's got it wrong here. I still stand by my original theory that Varang cuts off the kurus of her enemies and wears them as a fear tactic, and @nilnether suggested she might do it as a spiritual practice where she believes she's absorbing the strength of her enemies, which I also think is pretty likely.

@dumbass--tumbler--cryptid I've seen that image of Spider a hundred times but I somehow never noticed that his hair is significantly darker at the roots, it almost looks black rather than the natural darkening of blond hair with age. I wonder if its another side-effect of the "miracle" that will happen to him.

Ahh I can't wait for Avatar 3! I know it probably won't happen but I would like to see Spider join the ranks of Ash's na'vi either through re-kidnapping or willingly as some kind of inside spy or ambassador for the good guys (kind of like Clarke from the 100 if you know this show). And while I'm not a fan of the idea of ​​Quaricth being romantically involved with Varang I think it would be funny to see her and Spider together since she would basically become his stepmother

I loved the idea of ash clan Spider and was having so much fun with the ideas you listed until the theories based off the D23 pic started being talked about. My friend @cyren-myadd has some great thoughts on everything and I’m also a big fan of Avatar Theory on YouTube. I was watching his break down of the Ash Clan last night and he noted that the other Na’vi in the picture with Varang don’t seem to have kurus hinting that they might cut them off and give them to Varang as a sign of loyalty. If that actually happens then that is so insane to me. This isn’t just a tribe of out casts, it’s a cult.

In the original Avatar there’s actually a deleted scene of Tsu’tey, who survives his fall, though is still very injured. He’s found by Wainfleet who says that he heard having their kurus cut off is worse then death for a Na’vi and then proceeds to cut off Tsu’tey’s. When Tsu’tey is found he makes Jake the next leader and then begs him for death which Jake gives him. I think knowing all that is what makes the idea of Na’vi willing cutting off their kurus so off putting to me. It’s not only severing their connection to Eywa, but to every loved one they could connect with, every creature they could bond with. And it’s all for Varang. That is beyond scary for me and so I don’t want my boy anywhere near that crazy cult although I know he will be.

I’m pretty certain from the set leaks we’ve gotten that at least Spider and Jake will be captured by Quaritch. So yeah Spider will definitely meet the ash clan through re-kidnapping. But I don’t think he’ll stay with them for long. The ash clan is obviously working with the R.D.A.

 We see in this image that the background ash clan are all heavily armed. They’d only get that kind of firepower from the R.D.A. My guess is that Varang wants to be all powerful and spread her cult to all the tribes. She probably doesn’t care about the great balance if her followers cut off their kurus and so she makes a deal. For their firepower Varang will let the R.D.A strip Pandora for resources.

From script and art leaks we know that a miracle will take place where Spider will be able to breath Pandoran air and possibly from the art leak have a kuru of his own.

This image has been kicking around for a while now and you can see Spider has a braid like a kuru but I’m thinking that might actually be his kuru. Now hear me out because my evidence is very tenuous for this but you see how Spider’s hair is significantly darker at the roots. Like their Jack Champions real hair color. Could just be attention to detail since some blonds do change to brunettes as the age or it could be because we’re going to lose the wig I.e all our angst fics come true and we actually do see Spider get his dreads cut off.

(Which even though I’ve written that scenario a few times I legitimately don’t want to see it happen just because I don’t want to see our boy in anymore pain)

And the only way I really see that happening is if he’s captured (like we know he will be) and experimented on by the R.D.A. They’d most definitely want to see how his kuru attaches to his brain and you can’t perform brain surgery on a patient with a full head of hair. Quaritch wouldn’t be able to just stand by and let this happen though. He cares about his son for sure but also he’s indebted to Spider for saving his life. I can see a moment mirroring the one on the rocks where Spider left Quaritch after saving him, though this time it’s Spider who was saved. Spider would be seeing his dad’s potential for change and want him to come with him but Quaritch refuses this time. He’s all out of sorts because he’s seen how crazy Varang is and has no desire to return to the ash clan but he also can’t go back to the R.D.A now that he’s betrayed them. So he just says “now we’re even,” hops onto Cupcake and flies away leaving Spider to return to Jake.

Those are all just theories though. I’m just as excited as you for Fire and Ash! Everything from D23 had me pricing out how much a weekend trip to Animal Kingdom would cost me just so I could go to the world of Pandora there. I think I’ll cry happy tears the day I finally have enough money to go and bask in the world I love so much.

Thank you so much for reaching out! 💞💞

I just need a scene where Spider finds out that Quaritch is dating Varang and realizes that she's actually his stepmother now. That's it, thanks for your attention.

Spider realizing he now has to deal with not one, but TWO insane evil parents

I would like Quaritch and Varang to not have a romantic relationship and instead be more of a pair of villains who complement each other and are unbeatable together but that probably won't happen. But I would like to see a scene where Varang kidnaps the kids, sees Spider and is like: oh, you're that human son of Quaritch that he often mentioned. And everyone has this shock on their face beacuse 1. Q has some connection to those dark na'vi and 2. that he openly calls Spider his son. And then we have the leak scene where Quaritch enters the room and negotiates to place Spider under his care and keep the Sullys as hostages.

I could see it going either way. What I personally think will happen is that Quaritch and Varang will have this sort of romantic tension between each other, but their relationship is too strained by their loyalties to their respective factions that they don't get to act on it. Sort of an enemies-that-could-be-lovers-in-different-circumstances thing.

Ooh I like the scene you described. Quaritch spent all of Avatar 2 refusing to call Spider his son up until the very end, when Spider finally escaped him. That moment when he finally calls out "son" to Spider so desperately and asks him to come with him always hits hard. To show how much he's changed, I would love to hear Quaritch referring to Spider as his son more in Avatar 3, and it would be interesting to see how the other characters react to it!

And yes, I believe that BTS scene is definitely of Quaritch trying to talk Varang into handing Spider over to him.